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sr. member
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Infleum
April 05, 2015, 03:26:17 PM
#90
The idea is actually very good and you can build this thing from scrap.
Here's a good video that should explain all the basics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6e3CprVTi8

that's interesting, are 35lb of plutonium dangerous for your healthy, i mean you can just use them like they are aluminium or something

so if i can find a ay to run the mine hotter and then stop it to refrigerate, and repeat again it would be possible?

It's radioactive, figure it out ;P

Those plutonium generators were being used in the Soviet era and they are completely safe and self running. The fuel capsule is enclosed in a shell cooled by a closed loop. You can find a lot of them being sold for scrap in Russia or just lying around, rusting away.

legendary
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April 04, 2015, 11:01:50 AM
#89
Gasifiers are a proven technology, and they work extremely well.
I have years of research and dev on home builds. It takes skill in welding fabrication, small engine repair, electrical knowledge and alot of patience...
But it's very rewarding. There are many places which sell units ready to operate, but you will pay dearly for them.
good luck.

Have you built one, can you give some more details about them? Why do you think they work extremely well, what are your examples. 
legendary
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LIR DEV
April 03, 2015, 03:25:55 PM
#88
Gasifiers are a proven technology, and they work extremely well.
I have years of research and dev on home builds. It takes skill in welding fabrication, small engine repair, electrical knowledge and alot of patience...
But it's very rewarding. There are many places which sell units ready to operate, but you will pay dearly for them.
good luck.
sr. member
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April 03, 2015, 12:52:02 PM
#87
found this

"Interplanetary satellites that fly toward planets such as Jupiter and Saturn are so far away from the sun that they cannot use solar panels to generate electricity. These satellites use RTGs (radioisotope thermoelectric generators) to generate their power. An RTG uses radioactive material (like plutonium) to generate heat, and thermocouples convert the heat to electricity. RTGs have no moving parts, so they are reliable, and the radioactive material generates heat for many years."

but you need radioactive materials, maybe it can work in a small amount without being unsafe

there is a way to convert the heat from device that use electricity, to electricity again? i think it may be against the thermodynamic law

Plutonium? Is this back to the future? lol Cheesy
alh
legendary
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April 03, 2015, 02:21:00 AM
#86
If you have 35lb of plutonium, you should bail on the whole Bitcoin thing and look for buyers of your plutonium. Way big profit there.
legendary
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April 03, 2015, 02:05:36 AM
#85
found this

"Interplanetary satellites that fly toward planets such as Jupiter and Saturn are so far away from the sun that they cannot use solar panels to generate electricity. These satellites use RTGs (radioisotope thermoelectric generators) to generate their power. An RTG uses radioactive material (like plutonium) to generate heat, and thermocouples convert the heat to electricity. RTGs have no moving parts, so they are reliable, and the radioactive material generates heat for many years."

but you need radioactive materials, maybe it can work in a small amount without being unsafe

there is a way to convert the heat from device that use electricity, to electricity again? i think it may be against the thermodynamic law
The GPHS-RTG model used in most recent missions uses 7.8kg of Pu-238 and generates 300W of electricity. If you can find 35lbs of plutonium, you could power an S5 this way using two of them. Of course, rather than using them to power an S5 you might want to sell them to NASA for $50M each.

You can recover heat from a device using the same effect, but you need a temperature differential across your recovery device. Essentially, you do so at the cost of making the miner run hotter all else being equal.

that's interesting, are 35lb of plutonium dangerous for your healthy, i mean you can just use them like they are aluminium or something

so if i can find a ay to run the mine hotter and then stop it to refrigerate, and repeat again it would be possible?
legendary
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Merit: 1004
April 02, 2015, 05:58:22 PM
#84
found this

"Interplanetary satellites that fly toward planets such as Jupiter and Saturn are so far away from the sun that they cannot use solar panels to generate electricity. These satellites use RTGs (radioisotope thermoelectric generators) to generate their power. An RTG uses radioactive material (like plutonium) to generate heat, and thermocouples convert the heat to electricity. RTGs have no moving parts, so they are reliable, and the radioactive material generates heat for many years."

but you need radioactive materials, maybe it can work in a small amount without being unsafe

there is a way to convert the heat from device that use electricity, to electricity again? i think it may be against the thermodynamic law
The GPHS-RTG model used in most recent missions uses 7.8kg of Pu-238 and generates 300W of electricity. If you can find 35lbs of plutonium, you could power an S5 this way using two of them. Of course, rather than using them to power an S5 you might want to sell them to NASA for $50M each.

You can recover heat from a device using the same effect, but you need a temperature differential across your recovery device. Essentially, you do so at the cost of making the miner run hotter all else being equal.
newbie
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April 02, 2015, 05:15:46 PM
#83
Well nothing to do Smiley i have free electricity Smiley till my father gets retired !

Your country perhaps is China.Huh where government officials shall be free things including diamond , gold,....
legendary
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April 02, 2015, 03:00:38 PM
#82
found this

"Interplanetary satellites that fly toward planets such as Jupiter and Saturn are so far away from the sun that they cannot use solar panels to generate electricity. These satellites use RTGs (radioisotope thermoelectric generators) to generate their power. An RTG uses radioactive material (like plutonium) to generate heat, and thermocouples convert the heat to electricity. RTGs have no moving parts, so they are reliable, and the radioactive material generates heat for many years."

but you need radioactive materials, maybe it can work in a small amount without being unsafe

there is a way to convert the heat from device that use electricity, to electricity again? i think it may be against the thermodynamic law
sr. member
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April 02, 2015, 12:44:13 PM
#81
You can find online these portable solar panels. They look like large printers. However, these can power 1 or maybe 2 S5 miners max and cost a lot of money.
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March 25, 2015, 01:44:08 PM
#80
I am in the USA. I am wondering what ways there are to get free electricity.

While you are unlikely to find "free electricity" in any significant quantity if you are looking for large scale hosting we offer the lowest prices in the world and we're located right next door in Canada.

If you're curious you can check out our website @ www.greatnorthdata.com and contact us for more information.



Sent them an email out of curiosity, their rates are very respectful @ $63/khw/mo  month to month too
They were very responsive ... but a huge red flag went up when I was told I would be unable to access my rigs remotely. =( Im not sure if thats the norm in ASIC hosting but... the ones Ive looked into all offered remote access control of my miner.
In short, its very uncomfortable being told I would have no way to tell if my equipment was mining or not.

Thank you for your interest. Sorry that we do not offer direct access to your miner. It is simply too much of a security risk for us. We could probably write a book on the ways people have tried to illegally access our mine. None have been successful, and we intend to keep it that way.

And you can tell your equipment is mining from the mining pool you choose.

There are plenty of mines that offer access, they just can't match out prices. We would offer access for an order large enough that justified a separate internet connection.

Sorry to set off red flags. We can provide proof of insurance, our corporate registration, ID for our CEO etc. in order to reassure anyone interested.
legendary
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March 25, 2015, 01:21:30 PM
#79
I am in the USA. I am wondering what ways there are to get free electricity.

While you are unlikely to find "free electricity" in any significant quantity if you are looking for large scale hosting we offer the lowest prices in the world and we're located right next door in Canada.

If you're curious you can check out our website @ www.greatnorthdata.com and contact us for more information.



Sent them an email out of curiosity, their rates are very respectful @ $63/khw/mo  month to month too
They were very responsive ... but a huge red flag went up when I was told I would be unable to access my rigs remotely. =( Im not sure if thats the norm in ASIC hosting but... the ones Ive looked into all offered remote access control of my miner.
In short, its very uncomfortable being told I would have no way to tell if my equipment was mining or not.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
March 25, 2015, 12:27:44 AM
#78
I think the gasifier+generator would be the best (cheapest) option. As long as you have access to wood, which you should always be able to find on craigslist, the only real investment would be the generator. Except for time, of course. (just remember, it take somewhere around 25 lbs. of wood to make a gallon of gas) This is the idea my buddy and I are working on now. The government even tried to help us out. http://www.build-a-gasifier.com/fema-gasifier-plans/

I am in agreement somewhat and I have lots of wood, have you run any financial analysis yet?

Very interesting, I aswell would like to see finance on wood to electricity on start up cost
legendary
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March 24, 2015, 11:25:39 PM
#77
I think the gasifier+generator would be the best (cheapest) option. As long as you have access to wood, which you should always be able to find on craigslist, the only real investment would be the generator. Except for time, of course. (just remember, it take somewhere around 25 lbs. of wood to make a gallon of gas) This is the idea my buddy and I are working on now. The government even tried to help us out. http://www.build-a-gasifier.com/fema-gasifier-plans/

I am in agreement somewhat and I have lots of wood, have you run any financial analysis yet?
member
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March 24, 2015, 08:43:17 PM
#76
I think the gasifier+generator would be the best (cheapest) option. As long as you have access to wood, which you should always be able to find on craigslist, the only real investment would be the generator. Except for time, of course. (just remember, it take somewhere around 25 lbs. of wood to make a gallon of gas) This is the idea my buddy and I are working on now. The government even tried to help us out. http://www.build-a-gasifier.com/fema-gasifier-plans/
legendary
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March 23, 2015, 08:15:21 AM
#75

... I already have the lumber yard  Grin

Where's yours?  Mine's in Missouri.

Not to many states away.  Can I ask why  price electricity you are getting in Missouri.

Here at the store, I'm getting .0751/kwh after taxes and such.
legendary
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March 23, 2015, 12:05:04 AM
#74

... I already have the lumber yard  Grin

Where's yours?  Mine's in Missouri.

Not to many states away.  Can I ask why  price electricity you are getting in Missouri.
legendary
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March 22, 2015, 08:37:51 PM
#73

... I already have the lumber yard  Grin

Where's yours?  Mine's in Missouri.
sr. member
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March 22, 2015, 03:43:54 PM
#72
I don't have numbers, but Australia is said to have very cheap electricity.
sr. member
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March 22, 2015, 10:09:13 AM
#71


Costs 60,000 Euro and you get 8,3kW



too expensive!

old diesel generator running on waste fats Roll Eyes

is this a serious possibility? sounds not... butcher shop....?

It is possible, but the waste fats would have to be filtered, and the fats would have to be warmed to lower its density to the equivalent of diesel, and then under any circumstance could the generate be shutdown for a long period of time with the fats, otherwise once the fats cool down they increase in viscosity making the generator nearly impossible to run again. so before shutdown it would be needed to switch to diesel, make sure there is no fat on the fuel lines and then shutdown.
Also the fats would have to be free of contaminants that can not be filtered such as acids.

 
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