Topic: Methods of getting free electricity - page 2. (Read 7438 times)
I wonder if it would be possible to heat a water heater with miners, I know people were talking about it with the liquid cooled miners.
Of course, you'd just have to do the math and probably run the miners in a closed loop, because you'd need a higher pressure in the boiler. It would be good to install a heat pump to make it more efficient.
The reason why people aren't doing it is probably due to the short life of their miners. You rarely use the same units for more than a year so it's not worth it.
That is the big problem with integrating miners into something big. The only thing you really can do easily is in winter use as a space heater. With moving around to heat house there is no additional cost, just time to find best way to use the heat.
I wonder if it would be possible to heat a water heater with miners, I know people were talking about it with the liquid cooled miners.
Of course, you'd just have to do the math and probably run the miners in a closed loop, because you'd need a higher pressure in the boiler. It would be good to install a heat pump to make it more efficient.
The reason why people aren't doing it is probably due to the short life of their miners. You rarely use the same units for more than a year so it's not worth it.
If you want to manage a big mining farm, china is the best place. You don't even need to move the ASICs out of china border, and workers cost is low
Back in 2012 I used to mine in a small factory, with business electricity contract, mined for 9 months 24/7 with some ASICs at 0$. Now it's very hard, almost impossible to find free electricity, you should do business with someone in China or other countries where electricity is cheap.
China is becoming more and more popular. But there are some places in US with very low electricity price aswell.
Back in 2012 I used to mine in a small factory, with business electricity contract, mined for 9 months 24/7 with some ASICs at 0$. Now it's very hard, almost impossible to find free electricity, you should do business with someone in China or other countries where electricity is cheap.
Don't know how the 110V grid is made in the States, but in the EU they use 220V 10A breakers (usually 2 per room - one for outlets and one for the lights). I investigated because my PC used to trip these every few days.
It would be hard run anything more than a single S4 in there.
It would be hard run anything more than a single S4 in there.
Varies GREATLY. It all depends on your electrician and location. I am lucky that I live on a farm and have two lines going to my house. I was over 12Kw during winter mining. But now moving to summer mining have to go a little smaller.
I don't know what we would say normal is. It varies so much.
I was talking about typical dorm rooms, as I agree with @jmintuck that in most cases it's impossible to mine there. Surely at home you can have anything you like. This crazy Brit for instance has a 100A socket in his basement just for fun (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMH2t34Rw3E).
Were you using the miners to heat the house? All this excess heat might be great for growing plants in winter.
Don't know how the 110V grid is made in the States, but in the EU they use 220V 10A breakers (usually 2 per room - one for outlets and one for the lights). I investigated because my PC used to trip these every few days.
It would be hard run anything more than a single S4 in there.
It would be hard run anything more than a single S4 in there.
Varies GREATLY. It all depends on your electrician and location. I am lucky that I live on a farm and have two lines going to my house. I was over 12Kw during winter mining. But now moving to summer mining have to go a little smaller.
I don't know what we would say normal is. It varies so much.
Don't know how the 110V grid is made in the States, but in the EU they use 220V 10A breakers (usually 2 per room - one for outlets and one for the lights). I investigated because my PC used to trip these every few days.
It would be hard run anything more than a single S4 in there.
It would be hard run anything more than a single S4 in there.
I used to work at this company which used to pay my electricity bills. I think I could have taken advantage of that to run miners, but a sudden rise of cost might have tipped them off. So I didn't.
But Thats the only way I can think of getting free-electricity.
But Thats the only way I can think of getting free-electricity.
The only thing I have ever had close is student housing. It is more and more common with student appartments to include electricity with a cap price. Mine it was included and the highest "peak" they would charge is 25 dollars extra.
That being said they are not built for mining or lots of watts. Also I did not do it as It would have been kinda a ass move as my roommates would have paid higher price (25 dollars each) if I abused it.
Back in college I had a similar option too, but the problem was that the power that could be drawn wasn't a lot. The whole system used to trip everytime I connected something like a Heater. So as for miners, thats the last thing I would expect to be able to use on those systems.
Rather than free electricity, one could get cost efficient electricity. I live close to an industrial zone, so I just need to setup an electricity meter and pay for what is consuming to the landlord, pretty cheap energy!
I don't agree with the other methods that not seem ethical.
I don't agree with the other methods that not seem ethical.
I used to work at this company which used to pay my electricity bills. I think I could have taken advantage of that to run miners, but a sudden rise of cost might have tipped them off. So I didn't.
But Thats the only way I can think of getting free-electricity.
But Thats the only way I can think of getting free-electricity.
The only thing I have ever had close is student housing. It is more and more common with student appartments to include electricity with a cap price. Mine it was included and the highest "peak" they would charge is 25 dollars extra.
That being said they are not built for mining or lots of watts. Also I did not do it as It would have been kinda a ass move as my roommates would have paid higher price (25 dollars each) if I abused it.
If you use much more electricity than average in a student housing, you may be targeted for a verification that you are not growing marijuana plants.
The main thing they were worried about is damage to apartment. So they would check a few times a semester to make sure the room's and things were not all torn up.
But if you did get a single without roommates I suppose you could have ran 4-5 110 circuits with miners. But would not be able to do much as far as managing air to cool them.
I used to work at this company which used to pay my electricity bills. I think I could have taken advantage of that to run miners, but a sudden rise of cost might have tipped them off. So I didn't.
But Thats the only way I can think of getting free-electricity.
But Thats the only way I can think of getting free-electricity.
The only thing I have ever had close is student housing. It is more and more common with student appartments to include electricity with a cap price. Mine it was included and the highest "peak" they would charge is 25 dollars extra.
That being said they are not built for mining or lots of watts. Also I did not do it as It would have been kinda a ass move as my roommates would have paid higher price (25 dollars each) if I abused it.
If you use much more electricity than average in a student housing, you may be targeted for a verification that you are not growing marijuana plants.
I used to work at this company which used to pay my electricity bills. I think I could have taken advantage of that to run miners, but a sudden rise of cost might have tipped them off. So I didn't.
But Thats the only way I can think of getting free-electricity.
But Thats the only way I can think of getting free-electricity.
The only thing I have ever had close is student housing. It is more and more common with student appartments to include electricity with a cap price. Mine it was included and the highest "peak" they would charge is 25 dollars extra.
That being said they are not built for mining or lots of watts. Also I did not do it as It would have been kinda a ass move as my roommates would have paid higher price (25 dollars each) if I abused it.
Many homes in the USA have their own natural gas well on the property.
Uh, what? Where? Show me a picture. I have never once seen a personal natural gas well.
I've toyed with the idea of a small solar setup only a couple KW, could use it for the rest of the house if I ever stopped mining, so wouldn't be a total loss or waste.
http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/%22natural-gas-well%22_att/days_sort/52.935397,-50.581055,18.521283,-140.405273_rect/3_zm/
Happy shopping and enjoy your relocation
I clicked a few of the houses at that link, every single one I clicked has the words "natural gas" and "well" in its description, but not a single one had a "natural gas well". So I ask again, show me a picture of one. I've driven across the US twice, I've been to a lot of places in this country, and never once seen a house with its own natural gas well.
I think you clicked on one house. The second one i clicked is this one:
http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/81905405_zpid/%22natural-gas-well%22_att/days_sort/52.935397,-50.581055,18.521283,-140.405273_rect/3_zm/
a simple google search will help you out. you are either the world's biggest skeptic or a troll.
I'm actually shocked no one has made the joke about asking friedcat the best way to get free power yet. 
I used to work at this company which used to pay my electricity bills. I think I could have taken advantage of that to run miners, but a sudden rise of cost might have tipped them off. So I didn't.
But Thats the only way I can think of getting free-electricity.
But Thats the only way I can think of getting free-electricity.
Yes, You are right. Old hardware is only useful, If Electricity is not the paid one.
Okay...You sparked my curiosity. Why 1960 and prior???
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Most buildings built in the 70s or prior didn't have individual meters because electricity was super cheap in most of North America.
So there are buildings where you pay a fixed rate per year. At the end of the year they take the entire buildings bill and split it against all the occupants. So your 1-2KW miner won't really have much an effect against hundreds of other occupants.
It would be too expensive to re-wire all the electricals just to put in individual meters. I am sure these days "MOST" miners who are still mining with old hardware are only mining because they don't pay for electricity. I am pretty sure this is true for anyone out there still mining with GPUs since its next to impossible to make money on those if you pay for electricity.
Also most business and offices have really cheap or fixed electricity. So you can ask your boss if you are allowed. Most tech companies don't mind.
And if you are a student and live at a college or university you should have free electricity also.
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Okay...You sparked my curiosity. Why 1960 and prior???
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Most buildings built in the 70s or prior didn't have individual meters because electricity was super cheap in most of North America.
So there are buildings where you pay a fixed rate per year. At the end of the year they take the entire buildings bill and split it against all the occupants. So your 1-2KW miner won't really have much an effect against hundreds of other occupants.
It would be too expensive to re-wire all the electricals just to put in individual meters. I am sure these days "MOST" miners who are still mining with old hardware are only mining because they don't pay for electricity. I am pretty sure this is true for anyone out there still mining with GPUs since its next to impossible to make money on those if you pay for electricity.
Also most business and offices have really cheap or fixed electricity. So you can ask your boss if you are allowed. Most tech companies don't mind.
And if you are a student and live at a college or university you should have free electricity also.
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Many homes in the USA have their own natural gas well on the property.
Uh, what? Where? Show me a picture. I have never once seen a personal natural gas well.
I've toyed with the idea of a small solar setup only a couple KW, could use it for the rest of the house if I ever stopped mining, so wouldn't be a total loss or waste.
http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/%22natural-gas-well%22_att/days_sort/52.935397,-50.581055,18.521283,-140.405273_rect/3_zm/
Happy shopping and enjoy your relocation
I clicked a few of the houses at that link, every single one I clicked has the words "natural gas" and "well" in its description, but not a single one had a "natural gas well". So I ask again, show me a picture of one. I've driven across the US twice, I've been to a lot of places in this country, and never once seen a house with its own natural gas well.
Many homes in the USA have their own natural gas well on the property.
Uh, what? Where? Show me a picture. I have never once seen a personal natural gas well.
I've toyed with the idea of a small solar setup only a couple KW, could use it for the rest of the house if I ever stopped mining, so wouldn't be a total loss or waste.
http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/%22natural-gas-well%22_att/days_sort/52.935397,-50.581055,18.521283,-140.405273_rect/3_zm/
Happy shopping and enjoy your relocation
"Property has natural gas, well, and new solar panels."
"8 acres of pasture, fenced & cross fenced, 1600 sq.ft., brick, 3bed/2bath home with CH&A (new in 2010), natural gas, well w/new tank, woodburning fireplace..."
"Elevated residential lot with natural gas, well share and electric. "
"Property consists of 3 parcels with 17+ acres currently being farmed plus natural gas well, last used in 1982"
"Last lot in Sub, Located back of street on Cul De Sac. Paved Street, Underground Utilities, Natural Gas, Well/Septic Needed."
Etc, etc.
There are some, but it's hardly common.
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