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Quote from: michellee on September 23, 2020, 11:00:57 PM

Yes, I think that is happening in many countries. Fined can be applied if people disobey the rule, and they don't even think about the danger of the Covid-19. It is what we already saw in the public area, and if people still do not obey the rule, they can go to jail because of themselves. Maybe we can not do anything except let them like that and let the officials get them, and I think they will get that fined.

Fines and warnings won't work in third world nations, where people have a habit of breaking the rules. That's why the Philippines president came up with such strict policy, in which he warned that anyone who goes outside for non-essential purposes during the lockdown period would be shot. Obviously it attracted a lot of criticism, but in the end at least some of the lawbreakers decided to remain at home.

Even if people have a habit of breaking the rules, the officials should warn people and give fines to them who break the rules. No matter if the other officials do that because if people are not discipline, the new case will still happen every day. The situations do not look better, but even worst, so we need to be still careful.

If the governments want to do that, I think the government doesn't want to get more risk for the new case, and they are very seriously to warn people. We need to follow them because that is for our best.

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Quote from: 3meek on September 24, 2020, 02:40:53 AM

Everybody hopes that the COVID will end, but in some places the situation with the pandemic is getting worse again, for example in Germany and England people are again beginning to prepare for distance work and training!
However, I would agree that many countries will simply not be able to get out of the economic crisis if they start to close again! That is why many institutions are trying to survive at any cost, including breaking bans!

If preparing for remote work I think it has been a little bit delayed, a big country like that should have prepared early on when the pandemic was first detected in the country, it should immediately isolate themselves and work from home so that it won't increase the spread of the virus. there is no other way to stay at home even though it will make economic conditions will collapse like this at least it can quickly end this malignant disease.

including the conditions of offline gambling places that you can now see have started to empty of visitors so that it will make them the developers of gambling places to think so that created online gambling places and can still earn income every day.

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Quote from: 3meek on September 24, 2020, 02:40:53 AM

Everybody hopes that the COVID will end, but in some places the situation with the pandemic is getting worse again, for example in Germany and England people are again beginning to prepare for distance work and training!

Because people are Hardheaded and they are not applying what the government is telling them.

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However, I would agree that many countries will simply not be able to get out of the economic crisis if they start to close again! That is why many institutions are trying to survive at any cost, including breaking bans!

According to our president ,the vaccine will be available on the 1st quarter of 2021 meaning there might be a changes from what we are having now.

But this action from miami dade came from their economic losses so they need to decide even with risk just to save their people.

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Everybody hopes that the COVID will end, but in some places the situation with the pandemic is getting worse again, for example in Germany and England people are again beginning to prepare for distance work and training!
However, I would agree that many countries will simply not be able to get out of the economic crisis if they start to close again! That is why many institutions are trying to survive at any cost, including breaking bans!

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Quote from: michellee on September 23, 2020, 11:00:57 PM

Yes, I think that is happening in many countries. Fined can be applied if people disobey the rule, and they don't even think about the danger of the Covid-19. It is what we already saw in the public area, and if people still do not obey the rule, they can go to jail because of themselves. Maybe we can not do anything except let them like that and let the officials get them, and I think they will get that fined.

Fines and warnings won't work in third world nations, where people have a habit of breaking the rules. That's why the Philippines president came up with such strict policy, in which he warned that anyone who goes outside for non-essential purposes during the lockdown period would be shot. Obviously it attracted a lot of criticism, but in the end at least some of the lawbreakers decided to remain at home.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 23, 2020, 06:20:22 AM

Quote from: michellee on September 23, 2020, 12:33:11 AM

You are right. The important thing is as long as we are still following the health protocols, we should not worry about the infection because we can take care of ourselves. We can still wait for the vaccine while also preventing the virus by wearing a mask, using social distancing, and everything necessary. W can be careful if we meet people who anti-mask because we are concern with our lives, and we don't want something bad happens to our family and us.

Here in India, the government came up with a law which makes it a criminal offense if you go out without a mask. And a lot of people have been fined for not wearing a mask. And despite all this, whenever I go out to do some shopping or to visit my friends, I can see whackos who roam around without wearing any mask or facial shield. What we can do with such people?

Yes, I think that is happening in many countries. Fined can be applied if people disobey the rule, and they don't even think about the danger of the Covid-19. It is what we already saw in the public area, and if people still do not obey the rule, they can go to jail because of themselves. Maybe we can not do anything except let them like that and let the officials get them, and I think they will get that fined.

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Quote from: Silberman on September 23, 2020, 03:32:29 PM

Quote from: RokokGudangGaram on September 19, 2020, 12:35:52 PM

Quote from: Silberman on September 18, 2020, 05:12:54 PM

Make no mistake I agree with that however we cannot make the mistake of thinking that everything is OK, the pandemic is still with us and we need to do our part, however there are many people that simply do not want to listen and they are not taking precautions anymore and this is a problem, unlike other type of crises in which if a person that did not took precautions he is only affecting himself and his family in this particular case a person that does not protect himself also affects everyone else as if he gets sick then the chances that he spreads the virus to other people are very high.

I definitely agree with you all. This is also why the role of the important is very important during these uncertain times. The government should strictly implement protocols as for the public to strictly follow it. They should also come up with programs that are relevant in this new normal to cope up with the employment rate and provide jobs to those who were laid off their former jobs. The survival of both the public and the economy will be impacted upon the movements of the government.

The issue is that governments are also suffering greatly because of this crisis, the costs of the healthcare system have skyrocketed and at the same time the taxes they are getting are going down as businesses are closing and the ones that remained open did not generate as many profits as before, and when you take into account that the economy was not healthy to being with then this generates an scenario in which governments cannot generate enough jobs for those that lost it during this pandemic.

Lots of industries had really greatly affected with this pandemic and huge percentage on where businesses had closed its doors since its not already feasible for them to continue.The revenue and taxes isnt really similar
just like into those normal days that we had in the past thats why it will really give some hardship kind of situation when it comes on sustaining but at least even on the worst situation there are still some businesses do
really give out some contribution and its much better rather than having nothing at all.For establishments out there then they would need to follow the protocol and do embrace this new normal and their operation
will really be highly affected plus following some certain rules according on what we are facing now.

Quote from: bitbunnny on September 23, 2020, 04:10:50 PM

I think such decision depends from country to country according to epidemic situation and there is no universal receipe. I don't know what is current situation in Miami but despite concern for health life must go on.
In my country everything is opened, including casinos, with obligation to obey epidemic recommendations and rules. I don't know if there is any country in the world whose economy could survive another lock down.

There are countries which can really survive if they would be locked down but this one will be only to those countries or places which are rich or on 1st tiers which is understandable but it wont really
be lasting like forever since we know that economy must move and it wont really be that long lasting if there are no revenues flowing in no matter how rich the country is.
Life must indeed go on.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on September 22, 2020, 04:52:43 PM

^ No hate, but opening physical gambling to the public is something that I can't even tolerate on my mind. Look at the situation that we have right now. Losers from the Casino might not be able to accept what will possibly happen. It is also hard for the customer to be there because COVID19 is still active.
I know that they are just trying to survive their businesses. But it really is hard for that. Nevertheless, the adoption of the new normal will change a lot that people can go outside and go to casinos with proper protective gear.

I think such decision depends from country to country according to epidemic situation and there is no universal receipe. I don't know what is current situation in Miami but despite concern for health life must go on.
In my country everything is opened, including casinos, with obligation to obey epidemic recommendations and rules. I don't know if there is any country in the world whose economy could survive another lock down.

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Quote from: RokokGudangGaram on September 19, 2020, 12:35:52 PM

Quote from: Silberman on September 18, 2020, 05:12:54 PM

Make no mistake I agree with that however we cannot make the mistake of thinking that everything is OK, the pandemic is still with us and we need to do our part, however there are many people that simply do not want to listen and they are not taking precautions anymore and this is a problem, unlike other type of crises in which if a person that did not took precautions he is only affecting himself and his family in this particular case a person that does not protect himself also affects everyone else as if he gets sick then the chances that he spreads the virus to other people are very high.

I definitely agree with you all. This is also why the role of the important is very important during these uncertain times. The government should strictly implement protocols as for the public to strictly follow it. They should also come up with programs that are relevant in this new normal to cope up with the employment rate and provide jobs to those who were laid off their former jobs. The survival of both the public and the economy will be impacted upon the movements of the government.

The issue is that governments are also suffering greatly because of this crisis, the costs of the healthcare system have skyrocketed and at the same time the taxes they are getting are going down as businesses are closing and the ones that remained open did not generate as many profits as before, and when you take into account that the economy was not healthy to being with then this generates an scenario in which governments cannot generate enough jobs for those that lost it during this pandemic.

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Quote from: michellee on September 23, 2020, 12:33:11 AM

You are right. The important thing is as long as we are still following the health protocols, we should not worry about the infection because we can take care of ourselves. We can still wait for the vaccine while also preventing the virus by wearing a mask, using social distancing, and everything necessary. W can be careful if we meet people who anti-mask because we are concern with our lives, and we don't want something bad happens to our family and us.

Here in India, the government came up with a law which makes it a criminal offense if you go out without a mask. And a lot of people have been fined for not wearing a mask. And despite all this, whenever I go out to do some shopping or to visit my friends, I can see whackos who roam around without wearing any mask or facial shield. What we can do with such people?

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Quote from: Janation on September 22, 2020, 09:40:55 PM

But we don't need to say that we will be facing the virus since as long as we are still following the precautions, the protocol to be able to avoid the contamination of the virus, we could still take care of ourselves. The chance of increasing the cases is high with opening these kinds of places but it is on us on how we would be taking care of ourselves. With the people who's anti-mask, that would really be a problem.

You are right. The important thing is as long as we are still following the health protocols, we should not worry about the infection because we can take care of ourselves. We can still wait for the vaccine while also preventing the virus by wearing a mask, using social distancing, and everything necessary. W can be careful if we meet people who anti-mask because we are concern with our lives, and we don't want something bad happens to our family and us.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on September 22, 2020, 07:59:09 PM

I agree with your way of thinking, now reopening casinos is not a business alone. But regarding the fate of the employees who work
at the casino, they need income to buy their daily needs. If the casino doesn't open again and waits for the spread of the virus to stop
there will be new problems, because no one knows when a vaccine can be found, because a pandemic like this can last a long time.
So the right step is to reopen the casino, because we can't just wait until the vaccine is found. There is no other way but to face this virus,
even though the risk is quite large, because if we are not careful and run health protocols correctly, there will be an increase in the spread
of the corona virus.

All we can do now is risk to that.

But we don't need to say that we will be facing the virus since as long as we are still following the precautions, the protocol to be able to avoid the contamination of the virus, we could still take care of ourselves. The chance of increasing the cases is high with opening these kinds of places but it is on us on how we would be taking care of ourselves. With the people who's anti-mask, that would really be a problem.

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Quote from: chaser15 on September 22, 2020, 07:32:42 PM

Quote from: DoublerHunter on September 22, 2020, 04:52:43 PM

I know that they are just trying to survive their businesses.

It's not about the business alone. These casinos do have lots of employees and staffs which some become unemployed.

If people will just wait for Covid-19 to be disappeared completely before going back to business, especially in a big industry of gambling, that will make things more worst as there is no specific period wherein the virus will be totally gone.

As I mentioned before, thinking of people today is not the same as before during the early months of the outbreak. Our mind is now accepting that the virus will be on us for a long-time and now we have created a mindset that it's curable even without the vaccine. The virus can easily breach our body system if we will always think negatively.

I agree with your way of thinking, now reopening casinos is not a business alone. But regarding the fate of the employees who work
at the casino, they need income to buy their daily needs. If the casino doesn't open again and waits for the spread of the virus to stop
there will be new problems, because no one knows when a vaccine can be found, because a pandemic like this can last a long time.
So the right step is to reopen the casino, because we can't just wait until the vaccine is found. There is no other way but to face this virus,
even though the risk is quite large, because if we are not careful and run health protocols correctly, there will be an increase in the spread
of the corona virus.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on September 22, 2020, 04:52:43 PM

I know that they are just trying to survive their businesses.

It's not about the business alone. These casinos do have lots of employees and staffs which some become unemployed.

If people will just wait for Covid-19 to be disappeared completely before going back to business, especially in a big industry of gambling, that will make things more worst as there is no specific period wherein the virus will be totally gone.

As I mentioned before, thinking of people today is not the same as before during the early months of the outbreak. Our mind is now accepting that the virus will be on us for a long-time and now we have created a mindset that it's curable even without the vaccine. The virus can easily breach our body system if we will always think negatively.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on September 22, 2020, 11:42:10 AM

In the rest of the months this year, I hope the situation will change, and the Covid-19 can be handle by the government, the shops can reopen their business, and people will not suffer again.

I also expect the same thing as you. Really hope that Covid-19 will end sooner, and we will live freely again in the upcoming year. However, we are in a rather bad situation, the vaccine for Covid-19 is still not available, especially in my country. Now, I hear there is a new type of Covid-19 caused by its mutation. It is not good news for us, and seems that it still last longer. However, people need daily stuff, shops must be opened as it is related to basic human needs. But places like Casions and Restourants, it can be understandable if it needs to be closed.

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^ No hate, but opening physical gambling to the public is something that I can't even tolerate on my mind. Look at the situation that we have right now. Losers from the Casino might not be able to accept what will possibly happen. It is also hard for the customer to be there because COVID19 is still active.
I know that they are just trying to survive their businesses. But it really is hard for that. Nevertheless, the adoption of the new normal will change a lot that people can go outside and go to casinos with proper protective gear.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on September 22, 2020, 11:42:10 AM

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The small business can still hold and survive because the situations have forced that business, and they need to continue their business with whatever it needed.

Here in my state (Tripura, India) the government estimates that close to one thousand shops have closed down permanently, as they have gone bankrupt due to lack of business and lockdown restrictions. And I believe that this is just the tip of the iceberg. If the situation doesn't improve, then we can expect tens of thousands of small scale businesses closing down. Anyway, the casinos are mostly multi-billion USD businesses and they may be able to survive this tricky phase.

I can not imagine if many more shops have closed down because of this lockdown or Covid-19. People will still suffer to survive, and maybe at that time, criminality will increase too since people need money to survive and buy the needs. In the rest of the months this year, I hope the situation will change, and the Covid-19 can be handle by the government, the shops can reopen their business, and people will not suffer again.

Probably there are some businesses that needed to start open the businesses that produce foods etc. which is really necessary. with the exception of some restaurant.

But compared to other businesses like casino's the government is really a force to close every kind of business that usually have a lot of people inside, I think the government or the countries just didn't manage to lockdown the virus, in my opinion if the lockdown was perfectly executed they could easily opened businesses at some places which the virus is already cleared. Also at some point the government just doesn't want to risk it because it is going to affect the economy if a lot of businesses close.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 22, 2020, 09:18:26 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on September 22, 2020, 08:55:57 AM

The small business can still hold and survive because the situations have forced that business, and they need to continue their business with whatever it needed.

Here in my state (Tripura, India) the government estimates that close to one thousand shops have closed down permanently, as they have gone bankrupt due to lack of business and lockdown restrictions. And I believe that this is just the tip of the iceberg. If the situation doesn't improve, then we can expect tens of thousands of small scale businesses closing down. Anyway, the casinos are mostly multi-billion USD businesses and they may be able to survive this tricky phase.

I can not imagine if many more shops have closed down because of this lockdown or Covid-19. People will still suffer to survive, and maybe at that time, criminality will increase too since people need money to survive and buy the needs. In the rest of the months this year, I hope the situation will change, and the Covid-19 can be handle by the government, the shops can reopen their business, and people will not suffer again.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on September 22, 2020, 08:55:57 AM

The small business can still hold and survive because the situations have forced that business, and they need to continue their business with whatever it needed.

Here in my state (Tripura, India) the government estimates that close to one thousand shops have closed down permanently, as they have gone bankrupt due to lack of business and lockdown restrictions. And I believe that this is just the tip of the iceberg. If the situation doesn't improve, then we can expect tens of thousands of small scale businesses closing down. Anyway, the casinos are mostly multi-billion USD businesses and they may be able to survive this tricky phase.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 21, 2020, 08:46:42 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on September 21, 2020, 08:28:27 AM

Maybe the gambler annoyed because of the casino is reopening and close and reopen because of the corona. The casino can not do anything except following the local government's health protocols, especially if they want to continue their business. It is normal to see the casino will apply a strict rule to prevent the virus, and as a suggestion from their government, the casino needs to check every people who want to enter their places. The online casino can be an alternative for the gambler who wants to play gambling but too afraid to go to that casino.

The casino may have closed down after the staff got infected, or due to certain directive from the authorities. Anyway, this period is very tough for the businesses. Their revenues are all gone and still they need to take care of the rent and the utility bills. In fact I am quite surprised that a large portion of the small businesses are still holding on. I was expecting a surge of mass-bankruptcies.

If the casino staff got infected, there is no other way for the casino except to close down the place and check all of the casino staff to ensure the infection is not spread among the others. That will happen to the other business, not just in the casino because that is the government's instruction to prevent many people from infection.

The small business can still hold and survive because the situations have forced that business, and they need to continue their business with whatever it needed.

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