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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on September 08, 2020, 10:58:15 AM

This is trial and error. They opened their casinos and restaurants with measures that would prevent the spread of the virus and they failed the first time. They corrected their errors and opened those businesses again. The second time around, they still had failures and then they learned lessons and designed certain additional measures. And now this is their third attempt. I wish for them the best. This is obviously a hard time to balance the attempt for economic recovery with keeping the virus at bay.

It really is, but they cannot do this trial and error for so many times, they are going to lose a lot if they keep on having issues with infections they need to perfect the health protocols now or they will face penalties and closure of the establishment, the authorities will consider this negligence in implementing the health protocols.

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@Juggy777, I am more in favor of the proposals by Bryant. This pandemic is going to last for many more months and it is not practical to shut down the economy any further. Like what you said, it is true that some of those who infected earlier got the virus for the second time. But such instances are extremely rare, and they occur when the infected person didn't developed the antibodies in his blood stream, when he got infected for the first time.

The longer that the economy is closed the soonest the government will go bankrupt, the only way they can battle losing the economy is to set up restrictions and health protocol that everyone will follow, that way they can save the economy and there will be lower infections, people will not suffer from the virus but they will likely suffer from starvation.

This is the reasons why many countries prepared to open their economy slowly even they know that virus is still there because the starvation is much biggest problem compared to people that will die having that virus.

Its time to adopt it and know how to do your job
while following government protocols.

I would say instead: "while following the best safety measures/safety protocol". Everyone expects that government will have the best safety rule for the crisis... If a government does not have the best safety rules, people who have or know them could fill in the gap. The effectiveness of such measures will be seen in the evidence-based results that work/help/prevent the situation.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on September 08, 2020, 02:18:17 AM

I beg to differ the number of cases globally is on the rise and especially in those countries where there is no restriction. I do understand that people need to work otherwise they will dies because of starvation but you also cannot expect people to sincerely follow the protocols.

Untill strict measures are in place in both situation (Lockdown or non lockdown) people will suffer and die.

The number of new infections are not rising. They are going down in some of the most affected countries such as the United States, Brazil, South Africa and Mexico. Only in a few countries such as India, the number of new cases is going up. This means that we are moving towards herd immunity, and in 3 to 6 months most of the regions will be able to achieve that.

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Quote from: aioc on September 08, 2020, 10:35:16 PM

Quote from: Kupid002 on September 08, 2020, 05:33:40 AM

This is the reasons why many countries prepared to open their economy slowly even they know that virus is still there because the starvation is much biggest problem compared to people that will die having that virus.

Its time to adopt it and know how to do your job while following government protocols .

My country is one of the country that opted to open the economy despite oppositions from medical experts, this is a decision that our leaders have hard time to address, the budget has been realigned to address the CoVid issues and they have to open the economy and that includes casinos and restaurants but the guideline is they can only accommodate half of their capacity, failure to follow will result in permanent closure of the establishment.

Same here,The government must decide to stay keeping safe while the economy will continue dying,or risk the health( but with extreme rules of social distancing and wearing mask and facemask) so economy will still lead to recovery.
because now all countries are falling and this virus tearing every economy so decision must be made for the benefits of everyone/

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Quote from: Kupid002 on September 08, 2020, 05:33:40 AM

This is the reasons why many countries prepared to open their economy slowly even they know that virus is still there because the starvation is much biggest problem compared to people that will die having that virus.

Its time to adopt it and know how to do your job while following government protocols .

My country is one of the country that opted to open the economy despite oppositions from medical experts, this is a decision that our leaders have hard time to address, the budget has been realigned to address the CoVid issues and they have to open the economy and that includes casinos and restaurants but the guideline is they can only accommodate half of their capacity, failure to follow will result in permanent closure of the establishment.

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Quote from: MCobian on September 08, 2020, 07:03:22 PM

It's not easy to deal with COVID-19, not only Miami Dade is having a hard time reopening casinos and restaurants.
Almost all crowded places will experience the same thing, when it reopens there will be a huge surge in cases. But
indeed the economy must recover, so Miami Dade has reopened casinos and restaurants for the third time. So it
requires the awareness of all people to always comply with all established health protocols, so it can be prevented
the spread of COVID-19.

the problem is all around the world. it is how they will implement their health safety protocols to lessen further infection. as many casinos are already opening up to the community, the potential of covid infection is always there. because even if a person is not showing the symptoms but asymptomatic, he can infect others who are vulnerable to this disease.
so these establishments will do their part to follow the protocols but the people themselves should also follow the regulations on their end.

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It's not easy to deal with COVID-19, not only Miami Dade is having a hard time reopening casinos and restaurants.
Almost all crowded places will experience the same thing, when it reopens there will be a huge surge in cases. But
indeed the economy must recover, so Miami Dade has reopened casinos and restaurants for the third time. So it
requires the awareness of all people to always comply with all established health protocols, so it can be prevented
the spread of COVID-19.

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Quote from: iTradeChips on September 08, 2020, 06:16:34 PM

So for the third time they allowed these establishments to operate again and I think they should now be ready with the protocols and things needed before they operate their business. The government will not allow for them to resume without these establishments complying to the guidelines and terms set by the government. And being large gathering places, these business must comply. Further lockdowns might weaken some business up to the point that they can no longer operate and will need to shutdown.

The government are weighing things here, and they choose not to imposed the penalty of completely shutting down the business as they need their economy to continue to flow, people will suffer for being jobless and government would be able to collect tax from this establishment.

This is the time where the government needs more funds for the budget, so they might increase the tax to compensate the expenses they spend in battling the pandemic, with that said, they can't just easily close a business which is the source of their taxes, unless they made a serious offence neglecting the protocol despite given a chance to operate again.

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So for the third time they allowed these establishments to operate again and I think they should now be ready with the protocols and things needed before they operate their business. The government will not allow for them to resume without these establishments complying to the guidelines and terms set by the government. And being large gathering places, these business must comply. Further lockdowns might weaken some business up to the point that they can no longer operate and will need to shutdown.

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In an order passed on Friday Casinos and Restaurants are now allowed to reopen for the third time in Miami Dade, and further they can now serve their patrons up to 50% of their operating capacity.

It’s pertinent to note that this time they have learnt from their past mistakes, and now they’ll be required to run fans in the hvac system when their customers are in the premises, and this is done because covid is know to spread through air conditioners.

They learned their lesson well, if there is a fourth time they will be in trouble because it's seldom that a company was given a chance to re open for a third and it should not be the case, if this happen in our country the company will be facing a stiff penalty and they might not open again, following the health protocols should be the top priority of any companies in this time of pandemic.

Since cafe's and restaurants can run on home delivery business only, they should be limited in their operations for dine in. Only take away should be opened so that there is no risk of gathering and spreading of coronavirus. Restaurants may wait for another couple of month before being opened in full.

There are already some establishments or restaurants that do partially open or in operation yet it cant really be possible for now for them to open and make arrangement just like on a normal day.

Its just understandable that government had already given out permission for them to open but of course they would need to follow the new protocol for them to able to do so.

This isnt just only for their own good but also this do really limit out the spread since it would really create a big problem if transmission would really be happen just because it did really generate some crowd.

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Quote from: shoreno on September 08, 2020, 02:47:58 PM

Quote from: robelneo on September 08, 2020, 11:34:39 AM

The first two months of the quarantine is probably the hardest because no guidelines and protocols are in place,

why no ? they ready declared quarantine which means they already know the rules to be followed but indeed it was only hard at first because the virus is still fresh and many people already carried and pass the virus without knowing it .

Guidelines and protocols are in immediate effect when there is a pandemic such a virus, it is 24/7 broadcast in the news like a basic proper hygiene, use of face mask and social distancing. Maybe there was an adjustment made by establishment, but that depends on the owner or staff whether they want their place clean or not. There are even people going outside even their area is under quarantined.

With all this, the question should start why Miami reopening casinos and restaurants. This is probably due to their economic losses that they need to cope up with.

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Quote from: robelneo on September 08, 2020, 11:34:39 AM

The first two months of the quarantine is probably the hardest because no guidelines and protocols are in place,

why no ? they ready declared quarantine which means they already know the rules to be followed but indeed it was only hard at first because the virus is still fresh and many people already carried and pass the virus without knowing it .

Quote from: robelneo on September 08, 2020, 11:34:39 AM

even in hospitals where doctors and nurses are fully equipped with PPE and protection they still get infected how much more in a place where people from different places come and go.

health workers are more prone because they faced so many sick people not unlike to a common individual that some of the people you faced are healthy and the air that you breathe are mostly fresh because your arent in a hospital or a closed room .

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on September 08, 2020, 10:58:15 AM

This is trial and error. They opened their casinos and restaurants with measures that would prevent the spread of the virus and they failed the first time. They corrected their errors and opened those businesses again. The second time around, they still had failures and then they learned lessons and designed certain additional measures. And now this is their third attempt. I wish for them the best. This is obviously a hard time to balance the attempt for economic recovery with keeping the virus at bay.

The first two months of the quarantine is probably the hardest because no guidelines and protocols are in place, and even if there are there's still a possibility of infection because you do not know where the virus is coming you only know the circumstances but there are no such things as perfect protocols, even in hospitals where doctors and nurses are fully equipped with PPE and protection they still get infected how much more in a place where people from different places come and go.

Still now there is no perfect security measures that is why government set all the business to open to get some revenue which can be useful to tackle the losses made earlier this year.Schools and malls are also set to open so it is not a wonder to have a operating casino under new normal.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on September 08, 2020, 10:58:15 AM

This is trial and error. They opened their casinos and restaurants with measures that would prevent the spread of the virus and they failed the first time. They corrected their errors and opened those businesses again. The second time around, they still had failures and then they learned lessons and designed certain additional measures.

Well that's how most of the theories work, by trial and error the risk is always high at first, mild at second and supposed to be low at the third time. I'm pretty sure we can reopen now with effective guidelines measure, appropriate attires, proper hygiene and self-awareness. Lesson from the past attempts surely sinks in.

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on September 08, 2020, 10:58:15 AM

And now this is their third attempt. I wish for them the best. This is obviously a hard time to balance the attempt for economic recovery with keeping the virus at bay.

but I forgot this is America, land of self proclaim people. Saying that the virus is not real, "my body, my choice" lol I'm not telling all the americans, I haven't been there, but what I see on videos and articles describe what it's like in there.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on September 08, 2020, 10:58:15 AM

This is trial and error. They opened their casinos and restaurants with measures that would prevent the spread of the virus and they failed the first time. They corrected their errors and opened those businesses again. The second time around, they still had failures and then they learned lessons and designed certain additional measures. And now this is their third attempt. I wish for them the best. This is obviously a hard time to balance the attempt for economic recovery with keeping the virus at bay.

The first two months of the quarantine is probably the hardest because no guidelines and protocols are in place, and even if there are there's still a possibility of infection because you do not know where the virus is coming you only know the circumstances but there are no such things as perfect protocols, even in hospitals where doctors and nurses are fully equipped with PPE and protection they still get infected how much more in a place where people from different places come and go.

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Quote from: Kupid002 on September 08, 2020, 05:33:40 AM

Quote from: judeafante on September 07, 2020, 05:28:06 AM

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@Juggy777, I am more in favor of the proposals by Bryant. This pandemic is going to last for many more months and it is not practical to shut down the economy any further. Like what you said, it is true that some of those who infected earlier got the virus for the second time. But such instances are extremely rare, and they occur when the infected person didn't developed the antibodies in his blood stream, when he got infected for the first time.

The longer that the economy is closed the soonest the government will go bankrupt, the only way they can battle losing the economy is to set up restrictions and health protocol that everyone will follow, that way they can save the economy and there will be lower infections, people will not suffer from the virus but they will likely suffer from starvation.

This is the reasons why many countries prepared to open their economy slowly even they know that virus is still there because the starvation is much biggest problem compared to people that will die having that virus.

Its time to adopt it and know how to do your job while following government protocols .

although many sectors have started to rise again but offline gambling places still have not received permission to operate and in my opinion it will take a very long process to be able to make the economy in a country return to normal because with the virus, many sectors of import and export logistics have collapsed.

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This is trial and error. They opened their casinos and restaurants with measures that would prevent the spread of the virus and they failed the first time. They corrected their errors and opened those businesses again. The second time around, they still had failures and then they learned lessons and designed certain additional measures. And now this is their third attempt. I wish for them the best. This is obviously a hard time to balance the attempt for economic recovery with keeping the virus at bay.

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Quote from: Saisher on September 08, 2020, 07:10:10 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on August 31, 2020, 09:01:43 AM

In an order passed on Friday Casinos and Restaurants are now allowed to reopen for the third time in Miami Dade, and further they can now serve their patrons up to 50% of their operating capacity.

It’s pertinent to note that this time they have learnt from their past mistakes, and now they’ll be required to run fans in the hvac system when their customers are in the premises, and this is done because covid is know to spread through air conditioners.

They learned their lesson well, if there is a fourth time they will be in trouble because it's seldom that a company was given a chance to re open for a third and it should not be the case, if this happen in our country the company will be facing a stiff penalty and they might not open again, following the health protocols should be the top priority of any companies in this time of pandemic.

Since cafe's and restaurants can run on home delivery business only, they should be limited in their operations for dine in. Only take away should be opened so that there is no risk of gathering and spreading of coronavirus. Restaurants may wait for another couple of month before being opened in full.

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It's a rare policy, usually authorities gives chance to first offence but you will not be given a chance if you commit the same offense again. But this is different, they are given a chance to operate again in the 3rd time, maybe this is just due to exemption since we are under the pandemic, people needs job, hence the authorities can lightly implement the law to help the economy recover, and save people from getting unemployed.

Maybe they should follow the system of Vegas as they have not reported to commit violation on the safety protocol.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on August 31, 2020, 09:01:43 AM

In an order passed on Friday Casinos and Restaurants are now allowed to reopen for the third time in Miami Dade, and further they can now serve their patrons up to 50% of their operating capacity.

It’s pertinent to note that this time they have learnt from their past mistakes, and now they’ll be required to run fans in the hvac system when their customers are in the premises, and this is done because covid is know to spread through air conditioners.

They learned their lesson well, if there is a fourth time they will be in trouble because it's seldom that a company was given a chance to re open for a third and it should not be the case, if this happen in our country the company will be facing a stiff penalty and they might not open again, following the health protocols should be the top priority of any companies in this time of pandemic.

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