Topic: MicroCash - New CryptoCurrency - page 4. (Read 13719 times)

Quote from: Etlase2 on May 04, 2012, 12:05:10 AM

Aren't we a week past the launch date?

Who cares ? Better make it perfect than a stillborn !

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Hey! Everybody! Pay attention to me!

I don't think you can really fairly call him an attention-whore when microcash.org fired the first volley (at least, of this round - I get the idea that they have something of a history here). I'd feel pretty pissed too, if someone decided to semi-publicly taunt me in a place I couldn't respond.

That said, with still no client up, I half suspect they would like nothing better than for a day-1 DDOS to succeed; If no one else can connect to the network, the insiders get to split the 100k early-adoption bonus just between themselves... Not that it really matters, since so far, it seems like they just make up rules as they go anyway and justify it with a nebulous "answering the community".

I mean, I can't even count how many times I've wished the government would tax me more so they could distribute it evenly to Warren Buffet and Bill Gates...

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errrr..

i think i meant his wife.

well, the launch is in a few days...don't forget to keep us updated, lol.

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Maybe not a verbal response, but I got one hellacious DDOS lined up for them. Last time was only two days, we're going to go for an endurance record this time.

"I wouldn't do that if I were you, or "JSON" is gonna come after you..." Cry

@Notyep

Well I know this CH Sockie isn't CH or Viper, JSON coming after me was too brilliant for either of those retards...

Seriously though, I am indeed going to kick the living shit out everything Microscash related on launch day.

Also here's heads up because we are going to test your DDOS ban abilities. I want to see how your central server handles a 1000 instances at once being banned for DDOS. Can it handle varying IP's?

Furthermore you have to have some threshold which is triggered. Finding and operating a large number of clients spamming right above the threshold will be just as effective. What if I wanted to send a 1000 people 1 micro-cent legitimately, am I going to get banned?

What happens to the wallet balance of banned clients? Does CH steal them too?

My goal is to make Microcash admins and devs so paranoid they start banning "innocent" people. Do that once or twice and the bad PR will kill you.

Until you guys decide to dump Coinhunter/Realsolid you will continue to have these issues. Whether you admit it or not, everyone knows that BitcoinEXpress played a part in forcing you into Solidcoin 3.0.

I guess Solidcoin 2.0 wasn't so ready for the Bitcoin collapse after all.

Grin

~BCX~

woman, it's already past 24 hours.

did you dox him already?
no ddos?

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brb keeping up with the Kardashians

oh Comer

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So, microcash.org still has nothing there beyond the splash page - Thus no ability to configure and test the client before the 10th. Gee, that 100k in early-adopter "bonus" coins will sure look nice in the dev's account!

Interestingly, though, looking at the page source, it does have something that just screams "professional":

Code:

Karmaon: Guys guys! Want to hear a joke? BitcoinEXpress. All: [laughs]

Potshots at someone in a place they can't respond. Classy.

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Creepy promotional poster..

MICROCASH: Coming soon to stab you to death in your sleep and then rob you of everything you had.

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bool eval(bool b){return b ? b==true : b==false;}

Four words of advice: "Don't get left behind.". Wink

... but me count eight words. Huh

Anyhow, if it is about eating mashed peas I appreciate being left behind.

p.s.
How many angles has a quadrangle? You see it´s eight again, four on the inside another four on the outside.

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Quote from: tacotime on April 28, 2012, 12:40:41 AM

Four words of advice: "Don't get left behind.". Wink

lol

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Quote from: Kettenmonster on April 26, 2012, 03:59:01 PM

No, no, ... it is all completely different!
The 51% attack is only a 51%/2 = 25% attack (it´s int ya no) because half of the blocks are always safe!
consider the code:

Code:

(pBlock->nBlockNum%2)==1

Thus you can easily see it takes more than 100% to attack, which is of cause impossible.

The same power blocks that formerly anyone could sign?

Maybe someone on the inside found a fatal security flaw in sc2 and the team is trying to move on before it is too heavily exploited. That there is already a third sc is an admission to multiple failures, I don't know why anyone would hop on this bandwagon aside from the usual game of alt chain debut buy-sell chicken.

They never would have shut SC2 down otherwise.

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bool eval(bool b){return b ? b==true : b==false;}

If I got the math right

Code:

(pBlock->nBlockNum%1)==0

would be much safer, wouldn´t it?

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Quote from: Kettenmonster on April 26, 2012, 03:59:01 PM

No, no, ... it is all completely different!
The 51% attack is only a 51%/2 = 25% attack (it´s int ya no) because half of the blocks are always safe!
consider the code:

Code:

(pBlock->nBlockNum%2)==1

Thus you can easily see it takes more than 100% to attack, which is of cause impossible.

The same power blocks that formerly anyone could sign?

Maybe someone on the inside found a fatal security flaw in sc2 and the team is trying to move on before it is too heavily exploited. That there is already a third sc is an admission to multiple failures, I don't know why anyone would hop on this bandwagon aside from the usual game of alt chain debut buy-sell chicken.

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bool eval(bool b){return b ? b==true : b==false;}

No, no, ... it is all completely different!
The 51% attack is only a 51%/2 = 25% attack (it´s int ya no) because half of the blocks are always safe!
consider the code:

Code:

(pBlock->nBlockNum%2)==1

Thus you can easily see it takes more than 100% to attack, which is of cause impossible.

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Quote from: CoinHunter on April 24, 2012, 08:55:58 AM

Quote from: GTRsdk on April 25, 2012, 05:37:31 PM

ScamCoin is open-source? Well, that put's a whole new spin on things. Let's see what we've got here...

Code: (mining.cpp)

if(g_bTrustedMiningOnly && (pBlock->nBlockNum%2)==1 )
{
Sleep(100);
continue;
}

Huh. I've always wondered how trusted mining works. Now I know! Cheesy

Does MicroCash work the same way? Grin

That's so trust nodes will only bother attempting to create trust blocks which are even, the odd blocks are normal blocks. Both trust nodes/blocks and trust accounts have been removed from MicroCash due to criticism.

@Coinhunter (or whoever is playing the part)

Over on your SolidcoinTalk info I saw you posted the below as one of the "New Features" in MicroCash.

"Denial of Service code added, can now ban nodes that flood the network"

Which means you have the ability to ban specific nodes, period. The reason doesn't matter, you have that ability and your unstable history more than proves that one of the fastest ways to get banned is simply to disagree with you.

It also means this built in DDOS protection can be exploited to create all sorts of havoc. I wonder how bloated the "Ban DB" will be with maybe 100,000 banned nodes?? It only makes sense you have a central control server somewhere maintaining a database.

Peer <---> Central Control <----> Peer

Same structure as Solidcoin 2.0 except this time you're admitting it up front. Grin

~BCX~

I think it auto bans so if it gets like a hundred thousand or so requests in 10 seconds, then it automagically bans.

More like...
Peer Control <---> Peer Control <---> Peer Control

LOL

How can we understand this?

1. In order to prevent a 51% attack, the other 51% need to agree on a ban. Unlikely if you can count.

2. Or can bans be set by minorities or single nodes? If so, even small attackers can abuse the power to ban.

3. Or, most likely, the power to ban is centralized, and its owner will dissolve this whole project soon again for yet another iteration at getting at your money.

As in SC2 the threat of a 51% attack is replaced by a much more likely and dangerous attack vector, coming from its inventor. The power to shutdown something is akin to total control, as SC2 shows pretty well. The tyrant nodes proved to be the big dangers some assumed them to be. Noone is able to continue SC2 without them. SC owners are forced out of their coins and into a totally new coin&tax scheme whether they want it or not.

-coinft.

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Quote from: Cosbycoin on April 25, 2012, 03:18:06 PM

Quote from: CoinHunter on April 24, 2012, 08:55:58 AM

Quote from: Cosbycoin on April 25, 2012, 03:18:06 PM

ScamCoin is open-source? Well, that put's a whole new spin on things. Let's see what we've got here...

Code: (mining.cpp)

if(g_bTrustedMiningOnly && (pBlock->nBlockNum%2)==1 )
{
Sleep(100);
continue;
}

Huh. I've always wondered how trusted mining works. Now I know! Cheesy

Does MicroCash work the same way? Grin

That's so trust nodes will only bother attempting to create trust blocks which are even, the odd blocks are normal blocks. Both trust nodes/blocks and trust accounts have been removed from MicroCash due to criticism.

@Coinhunter (or whoever is playing the part)

Over on your SolidcoinTalk info I saw you posted the below as one of the "New Features" in MicroCash.

"Denial of Service code added, can now ban nodes that flood the network"

Which means you have the ability to ban specific nodes, period. The reason doesn't matter, you have that ability and your unstable history more than proves that one of the fastest ways to get banned is simply to disagree with you.

It also means this built in DDOS protection can be exploited to create all sorts of havoc. I wonder how bloated the "Ban DB" will be with maybe 100,000 banned nodes?? It only makes sense you have a central control server somewhere maintaining a database.

Peer <---> Central Control <----> Peer

Same structure as Solidcoin 2.0 except this time you're admitting it up front. Grin

~BCX~

I think it auto bans so if it gets like a hundred thousand or so requests in 10 seconds, then it automagically bans.

More like...
Peer Control <---> Peer Control <---> Peer Control

AUTOMAGICALLY BANS! THIS IS TOO FUNNY! NOW THEY ARE USING MAGIC IN THEIR CODE/STRUCTURE/SYSTEM!!!! NEXT IS VOODOO!

Actually, it was discovered that voodoo was too weak to do what they want. Next they will use the Force.

Bro you can take you RASHCOIN and stick it where the sun don't shine =)

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Quote from: CoinHunter on April 24, 2012, 08:55:58 AM

ScamCoin is open-source? Well, that put's a whole new spin on things. Let's see what we've got here...

Code: (mining.cpp)

if(g_bTrustedMiningOnly && (pBlock->nBlockNum%2)==1 )
{
Sleep(100);
continue;
}

Huh. I've always wondered how trusted mining works. Now I know! Cheesy

Does MicroCash work the same way? Grin

That's so trust nodes will only bother attempting to create trust blocks which are even, the odd blocks are normal blocks. Both trust nodes/blocks and trust accounts have been removed from MicroCash due to criticism.

@Coinhunter (or whoever is playing the part)

Over on your SolidcoinTalk info I saw you posted the below as one of the "New Features" in MicroCash.

"Denial of Service code added, can now ban nodes that flood the network"

Which means you have the ability to ban specific nodes, period. The reason doesn't matter, you have that ability and your unstable history more than proves that one of the fastest ways to get banned is simply to disagree with you.

It also means this built in DDOS protection can be exploited to create all sorts of havoc. I wonder how bloated the "Ban DB" will be with maybe 100,000 banned nodes?? It only makes sense you have a central control server somewhere maintaining a database.

Peer <---> Central Control <----> Peer

Same structure as Solidcoin 2.0 except this time you're admitting it up front. Grin

~BCX~

I think it auto bans so if it gets like a hundred thousand or so requests in 10 seconds, then it automagically bans.

More like...
Peer Control <---> Peer Control <---> Peer Control

AUTOMAGICALLY BANS! THIS IS TOO FUNNY! NOW THEY ARE USING MAGIC IN THEIR CODE/STRUCTURE/SYSTEM!!!! NEXT IS VOODOO!

Actually, it was discovered that voodoo was too weak to do what they want. Next they will use the Force.

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Quote from: CoinHunter on April 24, 2012, 08:55:58 AM