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legendary
Activity: 1253
Merit: 1203
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I do not think it was right for teeGUMES to tag the merit givers to sound the alarm on Vod's behavior. Although teegumes has removed the red trust, I am not removing my exclusion. Quite frankly, my exclusion has nothing to do with the red trust he had left for Vod.

This is fine I do not fault you for standing up for something you believe to be right. Many times throughout the countless threads here I have stated that had there been another way of achieving this same effect, I would have used it. If as a merit source you believe that one day in the future you think you'll throw some of your merit down on a public doxx to expend your source then our paths will probably cross again.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1828
Just checked new added distrusts from DT1 member to teegumes and bill gator and what a surprise



New added distrusts from DT1 for teegumes from :

Lauda
suchmoon
Hhampuz
owlcatz
nutilda
bones261



What a surprise these people who are talking the most about forgiveness trying to end that topic and gaslightning are the ones who kicked other DT members out.



I have already explained why I excluded teeGUMES in another thread. It is a principle that theymos included in a reply to me.


If they complain about amounts, tell them to complain to me. It's best if sources try to exhaust their source allocations, even if it means giving posts higher amounts than is typical. If you have 150 source merit and you only see 3 merit-worthy posts in a month, then I'd rather you over-give each of them 50 merit than let the merit expire. That way there are more people capable of sending merit, and the "merit economy" is less top-down.

If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.

Aside from that, if people complain about whether things deserve merit at all, then that's something to perhaps think about, but if you conclude that they're wrong, then that's that. You don't need to stress about it or defend yourself constantly. It's conceivable that someday you and I will end up disagreeing too much about this stuff and I'll remove your source status, but it's really not a big deal.


I do not think it was right for teeGUMES to tag the merit givers to sound the alarm on Vod's behavior. Although teegumes has removed the red trust, I am not removing my exclusion, at this time. Quite frankly, my exclusion has nothing to do with the red trust he had left for Vod.
copper member
Activity: 1442
Merit: 529
I think theymos should go back to cultivating a good (default) trust list.

I don’t think the current experiment is a success.

Not only this experiment is not a success but is a total failure, FAILURE with CAPITAL letters. 3-4 guys are commanding the forum, the ranking of the forum in Alexa is down and and the traffic is also down. I am not feeling strange about these stats, it will only deteriorate further and only because of the BIG flaws in the trust system.

Another fact I want to add is that these new 3-4 or a bit more persons are even damaging users who have been here for much longer than them and have a history of trading goods worth thousand of dollars and yet they don't decide anything but these new users do, how fucked up is that ?
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
I was at 4 DT1 inclusions until just recently and am now down to just 1...  Hmmmmmm...

Yep, and Hhampuz had me included as of this morning, now suddenly I am excluded in spite of the fact I never said a word about Hhampuz during this whole blowout, which leads me to believe he is doing so because he has pressure being put on him from the "club of special people" he is so desperately trying to be a part of. I would have loved to hear his objections, but when I went to PM him about it, I found he had blocked me too like a coward in spite of our previous open line of amicable communication. I guess I will just have to take my discussion of it to the public then since he is to afraid to have a private conversation with people he found trustworthy as of a day ago.
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 2262
BTC or BUST
I was at 4 DT1 inclusions until just recently and am now down to just 1...  Hmmmmmm...
sr. member
Activity: 938
Merit: 276
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Yep, it's cryptohunter alright.  Nobody else could be such a big putz, a wordy troll, and so wrong in his first three posts.  
That takes a unique level of skill.  Roll Eyes

It's not CH.Get a brain and stop acting like an idiot
copper member
Activity: 2338
Merit: 4543
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Yep, it's cryptohunter alright.  Nobody else could be such a big putz, a wordy troll, and so wrong in his first three posts.  
That takes a unique level of skill.  Roll Eyes
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0

Don't get me wrong, I'm not telling you to stay silent. Anyone is allowed to speak up. What I meant was that there are numerous open threads on the same topic. There is no point in creating more threads, besides littering the forum.

The best approach (imo) would be contacting Theymos directly to address your concerns. Threads like this alway end up in childish bickering (coming from both sides) and the last thing Theymos wants is to step in like some kindergarten teacher.

Same thinking from my end and its really ugly to see multiple thread based on same topic. Its nothing but opening a meaningless debate. After seeing this kinda topic again and again  newbies will be so much discouraged from learning new things rather than watching time wasting arguments.  

There is no way to deny that currently bitcointalk community users are being busy with this kind of issues and its because some users like OP is trying to make the situation much complicated from their premeditated ideas. As a newber OP should learn forum rules and visit other sections for gathering knowledge rather than making useless thread.
premeditated ideas?  You shit!

You just had in my mind.

Edit:
An example post:
Personally I don't believe prediction of John Fakefee Mcafee, I think he was unconscious when he had gave prediction about bitcoin. I never follow his prediction and I believe other peoples also should ignore his prediction. I think many peoples lose fund during last prediction due to his fake and wrong prediction. So I don't think its possible bitcoin will trade above $100K end of this year.  

The following was enough instead of repeating and repeating all these mess above
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I rarely follow John Mcafee's speculations, he was unconscious when he said about $100k.
$100k end of this year seems impossible.

Oh! wait! people will think you are oneliner shitposter LOL if you do so? I doubt Hhampuz even check the contents of your posts. He only sees the juggle of characters and lines.

You and another guy called talkstar or something are a good definition of shitposters and ass-lickers. There are more which I can not remember at the moment, it doesn't even matter by the way since this post is not about the minor advantages you guys are taking here. It's more about saving the forum from these abusive DTs in the network. Sadly members like you, are fueling those DTs in power by the way.



Don't get me wrong, I'm not telling you to stay silent. Anyone is allowed to speak up. What I meant was that there are numerous open threads on the same topic. There is no point in creating more threads, besides littering the forum.

The best approach (imo) would be contacting Theymos directly to address your concerns. Threads like this alway end up in childish bickering (coming from both sides) and the last thing Theymos wants is to step in like some kindergarten teacher.
I doubt PMing theymos will get you any solution. He will answer you something which will stand in the middle and you will be more confused than you were before. I understand that it's hard for him to pick a side even when he finds a gray area in a user's behavior.

This is a forum driven by the community. Community needs to find a solution for it and theymos needs to act based on the community feedback than some auto picked up manipulative individuals. I wonder when theymos will has his eyes open.

Edit:
I am CH, what else anyone have in mind?
May be I will consider revealing my identity to some of these sockpuppets.
sr. member
Activity: 938
Merit: 276
Just checked new added distrusts from DT1 member to teegumes and bill gator and what a surprise



New added distrusts from DT1 for teegumes from :

Lauda
suchmoon
Hhampuz
owlcatz
nutilda
bones261



New added distrusts from DT1 for bill gator from :

vod
tman
lauda
yogg
owlcatz
Hhampuz



What a surprise these people who are talking the most about forgiveness trying to end that topic and gaslightning are the ones who kicked other DT members out.

copper member
Activity: 1204
Merit: 737
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not telling you to stay silent. Anyone is allowed to speak up. What I meant was that there are numerous open threads on the same topic. There is no point in creating more threads, besides littering the forum.

The best approach (imo) would be contacting Theymos directly to address your concerns. Threads like this alway end up in childish bickering (coming from both sides) and the last thing Theymos wants is to step in like some kindergarten teacher.

Same thinking from my end and its really ugly to see multiple thread based on same topic. Its nothing but opening a meaningless debate. After seeing this kinda topic again and again  newbies will be so much discouraged from learning new things rather than watching time wasting arguments.  

There is no way to deny that currently bitcointalk community users are being busy with this kind of issues and its because some users like OP is trying to make the situation much complicated from their premeditated ideas. As a newber OP should learn forum rules and visit other sections for gathering knowledge rather than making useless thread.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1989
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Newbie account talking about trust system and this is first topic. Posting style is CH,
I have no idea if the OP is CH or not but the ad hominem attacks are not helping anything.

Creating hundreds of topics about the same subject isn't helping either.
Will you be kind enough to give an effective idea then please? It's better this way instead staying silent like shit.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not telling you to stay silent. Anyone is allowed to speak up. What I meant was that there are numerous open threads on the same topic. There is no point in creating more threads, besides littering the forum.

The best approach (imo) would be contacting Theymos directly to address your concerns. Threads like this alway end up in childish bickering (coming from both sides) and the last thing Theymos wants is to step in like some kindergarten teacher.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
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In the next update, may be we will find some of the member of these abusive DT network manipulators. Just find those who distrusted/removed teeGUMES, OgNasty, Rmcdermott927 and bill gator from their trust network.
No need to wait, you can see live updates on DT1 inclusions/exclusions on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview.
My next project will be a dtview-changelog-viewer with hourly changes since April 12.
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 6981
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I excluded teeGUMES from my trust list because of the feedback he left Vod, which I very much disagreed with.  After reviewing the whole situation--at least as much as I know about the drama between Vod and OgNasty and Vod's subsequent actions--I'm going to un-exclude him. 

I'm not sure what to think about what's going on right now, but the vibe is very bad.  I also don't think bill gator deserved to be removed from DT, and since I've had interactions and financial transactions with him which lead me to believe he's a genuine, straight-up guy, I'm going to include him on my trust list.

As far as Rmcdermott927 goes, I know nothing about what's going on there.  And I've had OgNasty excluded for quite some time, and I'm not going to revise that.  In fact, aside from those two changes I mentioned above, I'm not going to do anything hasty or out of emotion with respect to my trust list until I can figure out what the hell is going on. 

I really don't like the state bitcointalk is in right now.
member
Activity: 241
Merit: 98
what do you expect to this idiot Vod he thinks hes untouchable in this forum,theymos doesnt even care about us ,so stop whinning there wont be any change to this forum these extortionist/liars/abusers will still have the whole forum.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
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It would work just find if these manipulative fucked up group would not exist or theymos could do something about them.
The risk is that we see a similar group of users pop up in the future that do the very same thing.

Removing these people from the trust system is necessary but doing that alone will only be a temporary solution.

I suspect some of them have sock puppets and they will probably start being used in similar ways once the people in question are removed.
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
Newbie account talking about trust system and this is first topic. Posting style is CH,
I have no idea if the OP is CH or not but the ad hominem attacks are not helping anything.

Creating hundreds of topics about the same subject isn't helping either.
Will you be kind enough to give an effective idea then please? It's better this way instead staying silent like shit.

I am a DT
I am very generous user in a specific board
I am an x bitcointalker

But look at me! I had to post it using a new account because the entire forum has snitched by a group that you can not speak up from your real identity.

Don't be a hypocritical pajeet +- idiot +- narcissistic baboon and people will not distrust you. It's easy.
Stop editing posts once it was answered.
So, you are saying:
teeGUMES
OgNasty
Rmcdermott927
bill gator

were "hypocritical pajeet +- idiot +- narcissistic baboon"?

You really ate your brain fella.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1989
฿uy ฿itcoin
Newbie account talking about trust system and this is first topic. Posting style is CH,
I have no idea if the OP is CH or not but the ad hominem attacks are not helping anything.

Creating hundreds of topics about the same subject isn't helping either.
sr. member
Activity: 938
Merit: 276
Somebody just need to check the DT1 list who are distrusting OGNasty and instantly see these are the same people who are jumping into threads gaslighting (thanks qs for the word) .


Based on that link
http://loyce.club/trust/2019-05-11_Sat_05.45h/18321.html

Vod
TMAN
Lauda
suchmoon
owlcatz
thepharmacist
Hhampuz
dazedfool
Ecuamobi


These names sound familar doesnt it ?

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We will see a clear list of them once we will have the next update from LoyceV trust project.
Would you post that with your real account it would be already destroyed  Grin Grin Grin

They must be really mad about that.

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I have no idea if the OP is CH or not but the ad hominem attacks are not helping anything.

I'm pretty sure its not CH.Thats not his writing style
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
Newbie account talking about trust system and this is first topic. Posting style is CH,
I have no idea if the OP is CH or not but the ad hominem attacks are not helping anything.
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
Yawn.
Gotcha red handed you red trust queen LOL
So you think you are one of the member of this manipulative DT network group? Or I don't see any other reason for your Yawn, Fawn attitude.


I don’t think the current experiment is a success.
It would work just find if these manipulative fucked up group would not exist or theymos could do something about them.

We will see a clear list of them once we will have the next update from LoyceV trust project.

Newbie account talking about trust system and this is first topic. Posting style is CH,
Hello! hello!
What did I say:
Personally I don't believe prediction of John Fakefee Mcafee, I think he was unconscious when he had gave prediction about bitcoin. I never follow his prediction and I believe other peoples also should ignore his prediction. I think many peoples lose fund during last prediction due to his fake and wrong prediction. So I don't think its possible bitcoin will trade above $100K end of this year. 

The following was enough instead of repeating and repeating all these mess above
Quote
I rarely follow John Mcafee's speculations, he was unconscious when he said about $100k.
$100k end of this year seems impossible.

Oh! wait! people will think you are oneliner shitposter LOL if you do so? I doubt Hhampuz even check the contents of your posts. He only sees the juggle of characters and lines.

You and another guy called talkstar or something are a good definition of shitposters and ass-lickers. There are more which I can not remember at the moment, it doesn't even matter by the way since this post is not about the minor advantages you guys are taking here. It's more about saving the forum from these abusive DTs in the network. Sadly members like you, are fueling those DTs in power by the way.
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