Topic: Mindrust [DT1] member gave me redtrust without reason (Read 1846 times)

Quote from: suchmoon on July 02, 2019, 11:03:52 AM

So why are you still trying to abuse the system together with quickscammer if you admit that it doesn't change the facts ?

I don't think TECSHARE is abusing the trust system by helping people to solve there reputation issue here. You could see a decent example in this thread itself.

It seems he has already forgotten the first thing I had done in this conflict was ask Matthias to remove his flag and rating for Mindrust. I have no loyalties to anyone in this conflict. My loyalties are to the proper functioning of the trust system as intended. Of course this doesn't fit well with his narrative of slander and deceit, so he is going to just skip over that part.

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Quote from: Quickseller on July 02, 2019, 10:54:05 AM

That is not bullshit. I acknowledge that you do not want to have to answer to poor decisions, however I am not wrong. If you don’t want to have to answer to your decisions regarding your trust list, you can not use a trust list.

You're missing the point, Sparky. You can bark all you want - nobody can be obligated to "answer" that, nor can you take away the ability to use trust lists. You can however exclude the person who you think is not fit to be in the trust system and I don't give a shit if you "answer" for that exclusion or not, although you can "answer" if you wish. Freedom.

But you know all that, you're just stirring shit up, as usual.

Sure, you can refuse to answer questions about your trust list, and pretend that the questions and problems don’t exist, but doing so will reflect poorly on you.

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Quote from: Quickseller on July 02, 2019, 10:54:05 AM

That is not bullshit. I acknowledge that you do not want to have to answer to poor decisions, however I am not wrong. If you don’t want to have to answer to your decisions regarding your trust list, you can not use a trust list.

You're missing the point, Sparky. You can bark all you want - nobody can be obligated to "answer" that, nor can you take away the ability to use trust lists. You can however exclude the person who you think is not fit to be in the trust system and I don't give a shit if you "answer" for that exclusion or not, although you can "answer" if you wish. Freedom.

But you know all that, you're just stirring shit up, as usual.

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So why are you still trying to abuse the system together with quickscammer if you admit that it doesn't change the facts ?

I don't think TECSHARE is abusing the trust system by helping people to solve there reputation issue here. You could see a decent example in this thread itself.

Quote from: marlboroza on July 01, 2019, 04:12:38 PM

I wouldn't call that - what you have - 'reputation'.

He is already more reputed than you in many factors here, your act of breaking a well agreed contract shows how many people would trust you with any info.

I can only say that I would not share any info with bob.

Quote from: suchmoon on July 02, 2019, 10:32:24 AM

Woa.. is this a threat ?
Since i have to live in fear now, you did clear damage to my mental health.. You broke an implied agreement to not damage each other.. Can i start a flag against you now?

No you can't, that is total bullshit anyways. Huh

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Quote from: Quickseller on July 02, 2019, 12:55:08 AM

If you are unwilling to have your decisions put under public scrutiny, you should not have a trust list. Ditto if you are unwilling to defend your actions publicly.

LOL

Bullshit. Anybody - even escrow scammers and hypertrolls and other sewage - can and should use trust lists.

That is not bullshit. I acknowledge that you do not want to have to answer to poor decisions, however I am not wrong. If you don’t want to have to answer to your decisions regarding your trust list, you can not use a trust list.

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Quote from: Quickseller on July 02, 2019, 12:55:08 AM

If you are unwilling to have your decisions put under public scrutiny, you should not have a trust list. Ditto if you are unwilling to defend your actions publicly.

LOL

Bullshit. Anybody - even escrow scammers and hypertrolls and other sewage - can and should use trust lists.

TECSHARE

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A group of frauds and trust system abusers getting together doesn't change the facts no matter how much you think people are buying your horse shit.

So why are you still trying to abuse the system together with quickscammer if you admit that it doesn't change the facts ?

My reputation is not under debate here, mindrusts is.

I wouldn't call that - what you have - 'reputation'.

Quote from: Quickseller on July 02, 2019, 12:55:08 AM

You keep pointing fingers and I will keep breaking them until you put them away.

Woa.. is this a threat ?
Since i have to live in fear now, you did clear damage to my mental health.. You broke an implied agreement to not damage each other.. Can i start a flag against you now?

I don't even like Quickseller. I also don't like people who abuse their authority. I do like systems to protect individual rights, which is why I called all of you out, because you all are using the trust system as your little toys and tools of retribution. That is the great thing about individual rights, it doesn't matter how much of a popularity contest you run, or how much you demonize people, everyone still has them. The fidelity of the trust system is far more important than your little political squabbles and compulsive need to punish people for trading in goods you don't like.

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My trust list is my own business.

This is incorrect.

A person's trust list is, by design, affects the entire community. Its purpose is to affect the public trust network. A person's trust list influences the community policy of whose trust ratings are shown by default.

If you are unwilling to have your decisions put under public scrutiny, you should not have a trust list. Ditto if you are unwilling to defend your actions publicly.

This is nonsense. Nobody can be forced into pointless arguements with people like yourself.

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A group of frauds and trust system abusers getting together doesn't change the facts no matter how much you think people are buying your horse shit.

So why are you still trying to abuse the system together with quickscammer if you admit that it doesn't change the facts ?

My reputation is not under debate here, mindrusts is.

I wouldn't call that - what you have - 'reputation'.

Quote from: bob123 on July 02, 2019, 04:13:47 AM

You keep pointing fingers and I will keep breaking them until you put them away.

Woa.. is this a threat ?
Since i have to live in fear now, you did clear damage to my mental health.. You broke an implied agreement to not damage each other.. Can i start a flag against you now?

TECSHARE

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Apparently Mindrust has not learned anything from this encounter, and is now excluding me from his trust list. While he has every right to do so, this is clearly retaliatory for me exposing his politically based abuses of the trust system.

Well.. maybe he excluded you from his trust list because you are not trustworthy at all ?
Supporting falsely created flags, opposing valid and necessary flags (e.g. against quickscammer), trolling , illogical statements to protect scammer and fraudster, etc..

IMO there are tons of reasons to distrust you. In fact, you are trying to abuse the trust system to your favor.

You received the most fitting neutral trust rating i have ever seen:

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wikipedia -"the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people mistakenly assess their cognitive ability as greater than it is. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their lack of ability. Without the self-awareness of metacognition, people cannot objectively evaluate their competence or incompetence." but hey the guy's competent when it comes to sending packages

So predictable. All the butt hurt clusters into one throbbing hemorrhoid to reassure each other. You are just another person upset I exposed your act of fraud, by your own admissions no less. A group of frauds and trust system abusers getting together doesn't change the facts no matter how much you think people are buying your horse shit. If his rating and flag for Matthias were so valid why did he remove it? Again, your quote is from yet ANOTHER trust system abuser I called out. You people are pathetically predictable. My reputation is not under debate here, mindrusts is. This is all just a pathetic act of retribution on both of your parts. That's fine. You keep pointing fingers and I will keep breaking them until you put them away.

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Quote from: mindrust on July 02, 2019, 01:48:46 AM

Apparently Mindrust has not learned anything from this encounter, and is now excluding me from his trust list. While he has every right to do so, this is clearly retaliatory for me exposing his politically based abuses of the trust system.

Well.. maybe he excluded you from his trust list because you are not trustworthy at all ?
Supporting falsely created flags, opposing valid and necessary flags (e.g. against quickscammer), trolling , illogical statements to protect scammer and fraudster, etc..

IMO there are tons of reasons to distrust you. In fact, you are trying to abuse the trust system to your favor.

You received the most fitting neutral trust rating i have ever seen:

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wikipedia -"the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people mistakenly assess their cognitive ability as greater than it is. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their lack of ability. Without the self-awareness of metacognition, people cannot objectively evaluate their competence or incompetence." but hey the guy's competent when it comes to sending packages

TECSHARE

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Quote from: DarkStar_ on July 01, 2019, 11:57:55 PM

Quote from: DarkStar_ on July 01, 2019, 11:57:55 PM

Are you a multi accounter who likes to trade merits? Better call TECSHARE, he'll give you the best defense money could buy.

I think there's a pretty big difference between a misinformed/partially incorrect statement and actually having multiple accounts and trading merits between them.

I didn't really say it for this one event. It is a general statement. His past actions made me come to this conclusion. There many of them and no matter how strong the evidence is he is opposing those flags which makes me to distrust him. As clear, as it gets. And I see I am not alone in this.

Yes, of course this is a total coincidence you excluded me a day after I brought attention to your abusive rating of Matthias9515, and you removed it right? You could have walked away from this having the respect of everyone, instead you just threw that in the trash and dug your hole even deeper. Your intent is transparent. You have made it clear to every one you do not belong on the default trust by your own behavior.

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Are you a multi accounter who likes to trade merits? Better call TECSHARE, he'll give you the best defense money could buy.

I think there's a pretty big difference between a misinformed/partially incorrect statement and actually having multiple accounts and trading merits between them.

I didn't really say it for this one event. It is a general statement. His past actions made me come to this conclusion. There many of them and no matter how strong the evidence is he is opposing those flags which makes me to distrust him. As clear, as it gets. And I see I am not alone in this.

Quickseller

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My trust list is my own business.

This is incorrect.

A person's trust list is, by design, affects the entire community. Its purpose is to affect the public trust network. A person's trust list influences the community policy of whose trust ratings are shown by default.

If you are unwilling to have your decisions put under public scrutiny, you should not have a trust list. Ditto if you are unwilling to defend your actions publicly.

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Are you a multi accounter who likes to trade merits? Better call TECSHARE, he'll give you the best defense money could buy.

I think there's a pretty big difference between a misinformed/partially incorrect statement and actually having multiple accounts and trading merits between them.

TECSHARE

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I requested the thread to be re-opened so I could bring something to light. Apparently Mindrust has not learned anything from this encounter, and is now excluding me from his trust list. While he has every right to do so, this is clearly retaliatory for me exposing his politically based abuses of the trust system. I just wanted everyone who gives him that authority on the default trust list to know he still hasn't learned his lesson, and continues to abuse his moderate amount of authority with punitive acts of retribution. The trust system is not a game for you to rank up in and punish people who upset you. It is to help protect people from fraud. Stop abusing it like a child with a toy.

I removed his rating go cry somewhere else.

Your exclusion isn't (only) related to this.

I excluded you before too. (Now I am sure) You are almost always siding with a known multi accounter/account seller quickseller, and acting like a lawyer for scammers.

Are you a multi accounter who likes to trade merits? Better call TECSHARE, he'll give you the best defense money could buy.

I am not trusting someone like you. My trust list is my own business.

Your motives are transparent. All you are doing is exposing yourself further as unable to handle the responsibility of the tiny amount of authority you have. You enjoy making further false accusations and dig your hole as deep as you like. All you are doing is hurting your own reputation. Your frivolous accusations don't scare me.

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