I'd be surprised if anyone was seriously considering anything in this thread.
I'm not.
They actually wonder why such device does not exist yet ...
They will make one, and i really do hope so.
Topic: Mineral Oil cooled rigs.... (Read 5754 times)
I'm not.
They actually wonder why such device does not exist yet ...
They will make one, and i really do hope so.
I don't think anyone here is seriously considering modifying a compressor-style AC unit to be water cooled by a pool.
Well there were two different ideas being discussed.
One is to use pool as a giant radiator for water cooled rigs.
The other is to use pool to absorb the reject heat from AC condenser coils.
The efficiency on any heat pump is based on the ambient temp difference between both sides of the heat pump (inside and outside). Using pool water which is cooler than outside air improves the efficiency of the heat pump/AC.
Here is one thesis on it:
http://minds.wisconsin.edu/handle/1793/7674
It looks like it saves money in both cooler and warmer climates. About $50 to $100 per year. In hotter climates most of the savings come from improved AC efficiency. In cooler climates most of the savings come from reduced natural gas consumption to heat the pool. Temperate climates benefit a little from each.
Nice that you used the proper term, condenser. Sure as hell compressor coil is confusing
In cooler weather, i would consider AC to save money..... or NOT
The most energy used in a AC is the compressor.
Great idea. because i'm sure the pool would need some heating while you use your AC to cool the house. You're know its fcking hot outside.
Are you really that clueless?People heat pools all the time in the summer. ALL the time. Sure, if it's 100F outside, you're probably not going to need to heat it, but when it's 90F, and the pool is 50F, it's not very comfortable and you get cold rather quickly. So you heat the pool, despite the weather being plenty hot enough to warrant the use of an air conditioner in the house.
say that in Celcius please i care less for your american standard. Who actually heat the pool in a summer? LOL we use pool to help us thro heat waves.
I need to pass these ideas past the wife. I think I'll either get a pool out of the deal, or piping my radiator through the wall to heat my garage will sound way more reasonable 
"Come on honey! It's only the size of two Olympic size pools! I need it for my miners!What? Only a regular sized pool? Oh, ok then; if you say so." ^_^
One is to use pool as a giant radiator for water cooled rigs.
I need to pass these ideas past the wife. I think I'll either get a pool out of the deal, or piping my radiator through the wall to heat my garage will sound way more reasonable
Great idea. because i'm sure the pool would need some heating while you use your AC to cool the house. You're know its fcking hot outside.
Are you really that clueless?People heat pools all the time in the summer. ALL the time. Sure, if it's 100F outside, you're probably not going to need to heat it, but when it's 90F, and the pool is 50F, it's not very comfortable and you get cold rather quickly. So you heat the pool, despite the weather being plenty hot enough to warrant the use of an air conditioner in the house.
I don't think anyone here is seriously considering modifying a compressor-style AC unit to be water cooled by a pool.
Well there were two different ideas being discussed.
One is to use pool as a giant radiator for water cooled rigs.
The other is to use pool to absorb the reject heat from AC condenser coils.
The efficiency on any heat pump is based on the ambient temp difference between both sides of the heat pump (inside and outside). Using pool water which is cooler than outside air improves the efficiency of the heat pump/AC.
Here is one thesis on it:
http://minds.wisconsin.edu/handle/1793/7674
It looks like it saves money in both cooler and warmer climates. About $50 to $100 per year. In hotter climates most of the savings come from improved AC efficiency. In cooler climates most of the savings come from reduced natural gas consumption to heat the pool. Temperate climates benefit a little from each.
/sigh.. I give up on the wall-of-text thing, is it so hard to edit down a quote?
Anyway, I've been trying to dig up this link, finally found it. This guy's been cooling his PC's with his swimming pool since 2006:
http://www.thebuehls.com/pool_cooling/
And he managed it for < $400, it's a neat project at the very least.
plastic.elastic, I don't think anyone here is seriously considering modifying a compressor-style AC unit to be water cooled by a pool. I'd be surprised if anyone was seriously considering anything in this thread. Congrats for hitting 200 posts without pissing off an admin enough to get booted.
The pool idea makes a great easy-access heat sink if you've got one available. Sure during the summer raising your pool temp to 100F with a rack of miners isn't too great, but hey you can swim any day in November
I think i can count on a single hand the number of people I know with pools in CO, however (which is weird, it gets friggin hot here).
Geothermal is an excellent, cheap, and energy efficient way to cool your whole house if you've got the acreage for it.
Anyway, I've been trying to dig up this link, finally found it. This guy's been cooling his PC's with his swimming pool since 2006:
http://www.thebuehls.com/pool_cooling/
And he managed it for < $400, it's a neat project at the very least.
plastic.elastic, I don't think anyone here is seriously considering modifying a compressor-style AC unit to be water cooled by a pool. I'd be surprised if anyone was seriously considering anything in this thread. Congrats for hitting 200 posts without pissing off an admin enough to get booted.
The pool idea makes a great easy-access heat sink if you've got one available. Sure during the summer raising your pool temp to 100F with a rack of miners isn't too great, but hey you can swim any day in November
I think i can count on a single hand the number of people I know with pools in CO, however (which is weird, it gets friggin hot here).
Geothermal is an excellent, cheap, and energy efficient way to cool your whole house if you've got the acreage for it.
Oh yes, as if cooling condensor is the concern in term of engergy consumption. Your so called proposal is a laughable idea at best.
Um... heating pools IS A large consumer of energy. Energy on can get for free by using waste heat. Waste heat like .... the hot side of heatpump.
oh so we're heating the pool now?
Maybe we should build a green house in the backyard as well, so we can take use of all available energy.
If you are going to troll at least read the thread you are trolling.
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By the way, the pool is an excellent idea! Actually, why don't people's home AC units dump heat to the pool? We could easily manufacture a window AC unit with two tubes and one cable coming out of the back which you run to your pool. On the end of one of the tubes is a tiny pump which pumps water through the AC unit and back to the pool. It would be much cheaper AC and a pool at a comfortable temperature! Why doesn't this exist?
The post wasn't about mining rigs specifically it was about using waste heat from an AC unit. The pool improves AC unit efficiency (by lowering the ambient temp of hot side) and the wasted heat it used to heat the pool for "free".
Life is too short to deal w/ sad angry idiots. Welcome to ignore.
Great idea. because i'm sure the pool would need some heating while you use your AC to cool the house. You're know its fcking hot outside.
Oh yes, as if cooling condensor is the concern in term of engergy consumption. Your so called proposal is a laughable idea at best.
Um... heating pools IS A large consumer of energy. Energy on can get for free by using waste heat. Waste heat like .... the hot side of heatpump.
oh so we're heating the pool now?
Maybe we should build a green house in the backyard as well, so we can take use of all available energy.
If you are going to troll at least read the thread you are trolling.
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By the way, the pool is an excellent idea! Actually, why don't people's home AC units dump heat to the pool? We could easily manufacture a window AC unit with two tubes and one cable coming out of the back which you run to your pool. On the end of one of the tubes is a tiny pump which pumps water through the AC unit and back to the pool. It would be much cheaper AC and a pool at a comfortable temperature! Why doesn't this exist?
The post that started your thread derail and troll-a-thon wasn't about mining rigs specifically it was about using waste heat from an AC unit. Dual use technology. The pool improves AC unit efficiency (by lowering the ambient temp of hot side) and the wasted heat it used to heat the pool for "free". The consumer saves on heating the pool and on cooling costs.
Life is too short to deal w/ sad angry idiots. Welcome to ignore.
Oh yes, as if cooling condensor is the concern in term of engergy consumption. Your so called proposal is a laughable idea at best.
Um... heating pools IS A large consumer of energy. Energy on can get for free by using waste heat. Waste heat like .... the hot side of heatpump.
oh so we're heating the pool now?
Maybe we should build a green house in the backyard as well, so we can take use of all available energy.
Oh yes, as if cooling condensor is the concern in term of engergy consumption. Your so called proposal is a laughable idea at best.
Um... heating pools IS A large consumer of energy. Energy on can get for free by using waste heat. Waste heat like .... the hot side of heatpump.
.. Don't invite the nonsense arguments and then turn to calling everyone idiots ..
God has nothing to do with technology.
Case in point. What you just did there was respond to a colloquialism. You're either inviting someone to think/call you a fool, or again this is a language barrier.
Re-reading the thread, I can't even tell what point you're trying to argue. D&T isn't trying to educate you with crap, this is a public forum. He's adding knowledge to a public place for everyone to read and take what they will. Me? I am pointedly criticizing you, for doing the exact opposite.
If you believe a point incorrect, return the favor and rebut with logic and knowledge, not sarcasm and disparagement.
My post is full sense of humor.
D&T isnt acknowledging anyone. His post is directed at me then pointing out the obvious like i need those crap. Hes not making point when he cant get my point. If you dont get what i'm saying, re read his post. Dont bother to reply otherwise.
No one gets what you are saying. A 24 man lab group does not get what your saying. Laughing? Yes, that we are. This is by far the best post of ...
"I dont have the facts to back this up..." ever!
What is there to back up? idiot
Third, the dumb poster didnt even think doing this is the most INefficient because you're producing the middleman from liquid to air. Why use AC to cool the room air temp? Who's the dumb ass now?
Either you drop AC all together and use geothermal to cool the heatsource directly (your mining farm) thro or use AC to chill your liquid which carries heat from the heatsource.
Yes, the poster doesnt know crap right from the moment he asked if using pool and radiator in his "mineral oil cooling"
You'll notice I never proposed using a pool and AC unit to cool a mining rig. Either you drop AC all together and use geothermal to cool the heatsource directly (your mining farm) thro or use AC to chill your liquid which carries heat from the heatsource.
Yes, the poster doesnt know crap right from the moment he asked if using pool and radiator in his "mineral oil cooling"
Also your last sentence here isn't a sentence.
maybe you should stick with mineral oil idea.
Third, the dumb poster didnt even think doing this is the most INefficient because you're producing the middleman from liquid to air. Why use AC to cool the room air temp? Who's the dumb ass now?
Either you drop AC all together and use geothermal to cool the heatsource directly (your mining farm) thro or use AC to chill your liquid which carries heat from the heatsource.
Yes, the poster doesnt know crap right from the moment he asked if using pool and radiator in his "mineral oil cooling"
You'll notice I never proposed using a pool and AC unit to cool a mining rig. Either you drop AC all together and use geothermal to cool the heatsource directly (your mining farm) thro or use AC to chill your liquid which carries heat from the heatsource.
Yes, the poster doesnt know crap right from the moment he asked if using pool and radiator in his "mineral oil cooling"
Also your last sentence here isn't a sentence.
.. Don't invite the nonsense arguments and then turn to calling everyone idiots ..
God has nothing to do with technology.
Case in point. What you just did there was respond to a colloquialism. You're either inviting someone to think/call you a fool, or again this is a language barrier.
Re-reading the thread, I can't even tell what point you're trying to argue. D&T isn't trying to educate you with crap, this is a public forum. He's adding knowledge to a public place for everyone to read and take what they will. Me? I am pointedly criticizing you, for doing the exact opposite.
If you believe a point incorrect, return the favor and rebut with logic and knowledge, not sarcasm and disparagement.
My post is full sense of humor.
D&T isnt acknowledging anyone. His post is directed at me then pointing out the obvious like i need those crap. Hes not making point when he cant get my point. If you dont get what i'm saying, re read his post. Dont bother to reply otherwise.
No one gets what you are saying. A 24 man lab group does not get what your saying. Laughing? Yes, that we are. This is by far the best post of ...
"I dont have the facts to back this up..." ever!
.. Don't invite the nonsense arguments and then turn to calling everyone idiots ..
God has nothing to do with technology.
Case in point. What you just did there was respond to a colloquialism. You're either inviting someone to think/call you a fool, or again this is a language barrier.
Re-reading the thread, I can't even tell what point you're trying to argue. D&T isn't trying to educate you with crap, this is a public forum. He's adding knowledge to a public place for everyone to read and take what they will. Me? I am pointedly criticizing you, for doing the exact opposite.
If you believe a point incorrect, return the favor and rebut with logic and knowledge, not sarcasm and disparagement.
My post is full sense of humor.
D&T isnt acknowledging anyone. His post is directed at me then pointing out the obvious like i need those crap. Hes not making point when he cant get my point. If you dont get what i'm saying, re read his post. Dont bother to reply otherwise.
.. Don't invite the nonsense arguments and then turn to calling everyone idiots ..
God has nothing to do with technology.
Case in point. What you just did there was respond to a colloquialism. You're either inviting someone to think/call you a fool, or again this is a language barrier.
Re-reading the thread, I can't even tell what point you're trying to argue. D&T isn't trying to educate you with crap, this is a public forum. He's adding knowledge to a public place for everyone to read and take what they will. Me? I am pointedly criticizing you, for doing the exact opposite.
If you believe a point incorrect, return the favor and rebut with logic and knowledge, not sarcasm and disparagement.
Holy. Crap. People.
If you wish to quote someone, please quote only the additions in the previous post, or just the piece you're rebutting against or commenting on. There is no need to quote a giant wall of text to respond to a single point. My finger tires of scrolling.
Also, watch your end-quote tag, your responses are getting lost in the grey.
Finally, please read carefully before posting angry flame-ups - 80% of this thread is arguing across what appears to be a language barrier. As far as I can tell you're all talking about the same things, but referring to them differently.
plastic.elastic, please chill the fuck out. Don't invite the nonsense arguments and then turn to calling everyone idiots, and learn to accept some criticism once in a while for god's sake.
If you wish to quote someone, please quote only the additions in the previous post, or just the piece you're rebutting against or commenting on. There is no need to quote a giant wall of text to respond to a single point. My finger tires of scrolling.
Also, watch your end-quote tag, your responses are getting lost in the grey.
Finally, please read carefully before posting angry flame-ups - 80% of this thread is arguing across what appears to be a language barrier. As far as I can tell you're all talking about the same things, but referring to them differently.
plastic.elastic, please chill the fuck out. Don't invite the nonsense arguments and then turn to calling everyone idiots, and learn to accept some criticism once in a while for god's sake.
Its not criticism,
He thinks hes educating me with crap.
God has nothing to do with technology.
Holy. Crap. People.
If you wish to quote someone, please quote only the additions in the previous post, or just the piece you're rebutting against or commenting on. There is no need to quote a giant wall of text to respond to a single point. My finger tires of scrolling.
Also, watch your end-quote tag, your responses are getting lost in the grey.
Finally, please read carefully before posting angry flame-ups - 80% of this thread is arguing across what appears to be a language barrier. As far as I can tell you're all talking about the same things, but referring to them differently.
plastic.elastic, please chill the fuck out. Don't invite the nonsense arguments and then turn to calling everyone idiots, and learn to accept some criticism once in a while for god's sake.
If you wish to quote someone, please quote only the additions in the previous post, or just the piece you're rebutting against or commenting on. There is no need to quote a giant wall of text to respond to a single point. My finger tires of scrolling.
Also, watch your end-quote tag, your responses are getting lost in the grey.
Finally, please read carefully before posting angry flame-ups - 80% of this thread is arguing across what appears to be a language barrier. As far as I can tell you're all talking about the same things, but referring to them differently.
plastic.elastic, please chill the fuck out. Don't invite the nonsense arguments and then turn to calling everyone idiots, and learn to accept some criticism once in a while for god's sake.
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