Topic: minerjones backing out of multiple auctions [endorsed/condoned by blazed] - page 3. (Read 13329 times)

Ummm, you can look at the threads in the OP and see that MJ did in fact not follow through on auctions he started multiple times in the past ~month.

I was cought by a awfull odor around the title but it was the terrible smell of Quickseller and his personal vendetta(s).
Waste of forum space.

Keep up the good work MJ.

Well, on the left side you have a confirmed escrow scammer who keeps the DOX of people who he hasn't even traded with and on the other side you have OgNasty (which I won't comment on and it's clear what *some* people think about him and their related business(es) and coins). AFAIK Quickseller owns a fair deal (?) of those seats.

Personally I think that this proves QS and OG are connected a lot closer than I thought.  I wonder does this mean an investigation thread should go up?

I think it's the dictionary data collecting that's the real problem.

No. However, Quickseller will state that there is no proof that MJ is doing that.

Is there any proof of MJ not doing this?

Which is complete bullshit. Nobody was hustled to do anything. In a combined effort with Gleb we managed to find the information of the user that stole the money; the user contacted us on their own afterwards and offered to return the money. This is not even relevant to this thread at all.

No. The fault is almost solely on the user that made him withdraw the item(s).

You must be blind then.

Biased as always. You shouldn't be making any threads about anyone.

It looks like you are being a little dishonest.

When you backed out of your auction to sell the 1000 BTC cas coins, you said you would be more transparent in ownership of coins you are selling for third parties: (July 11)
One of the three escrows, yahoo... was able to 'hussle' someone he believed to be the person who stole the money into buying BTC to repay what was lost due to the escrows' negligence/incompetence/greed. I believe that investors were eventually repaid with BTC that was hustled by yahoo.... however public statements were made that in the event of no recovery of stolen funds, that investors would face losses.


No, it was MJ's fault. He is the one who opened the auction, and he is the one who is responsible for seeing the high bidder being able to purchase what is being auctioned according to the terms of the auction, which fail to state the item is owned by any third party, and do not have the option MJ to back out of the trade.


I have not seen any evidence that anyone was informed of the risks. If anything you covered up the risks in order to sell your services to potential scammers so you could "earn" a higher fee.

You had "extenuating circumstances" on four separate occasions? This sounds kinda fishy to me, especially considering that on each of the occasions, the items were not resold at a later time. It also looks like this is not the first time you have stepped in to support MJ after he backed out of an auction....interestingly enough this is one of the times you are claiming to have caused MJ to back out of his auction.....one might see this discrepancy and call you a liar

I always have preferred this kind of open, public discussion about these kinds of things, as opposed to back room private deals. I think it is fair to say that you are active enough in the relevant sections to have noticed this kind of behavior.

If you don't think leaving MJ on your trust list after being made aware of this (explicitly) is not condoning his behavior, then I am not sure what you think having him on your trust list means. I have similar concerns about you having an extortionist on your trust list, although I have not been as vocal about these concerns as might be appropriate. Granted, you may not be able to help it if someone pulls a long con, or otherwise quietly engages in shady behavior, (it should be embarrassing if this happens), once you are aware of this kind of behavior, leaving someone on your trust list means you are backing/supporting/condoning this behavior.

I would also point out two examples of you personally leaving negative trust for very similar activity. You left a negative rating astgain alesx.onfire for shill bidding on his own auctions, and against bitmarket.io for backing out of a single auction.

I would ask why you leave a negative for bitmarket.io after a single instance of backing out of an auction, yet, you not only refrain from leaving a negative for MJ after 4 instances of backing out of auctions, but leave him on your trust list.

I don't think it's that he can...

It's that he keeps the door open to be able to.

Most honorable people would destroy packaging/labels...etc

You know, for plausible deniability...which is imperative.

Well said fattcatt.  I have trusted minerjones with quite a few btc and would do it again without reservation.

Edit to add QS you used an alt of yours to escorw your own trades and collected fees for it.  You have no credibility.  Panthers52, keep pounding

While this isn't on topic here, do you have any sort of proof of this happening?
From what I understand, CanaryInTheMine was saying in his trust rating that it is possible for MJ to dox people. However this is the case for anyone that sends or receives packages, and it is unfair to call out MJ specifically on it.

You're good Minerjones, you were merely doing as I told you to do. And anyone who doesn't think he's trustworthy, here's a little fact. Minerjones has handled over 40 of my loaded coins at one time, in excess value of $100,000 dollars, sent them for grading, regrading, he's sold, traded, and escrowed for me. Everything accounted for, you couldn't find a more honest hard working family man. Who also like's critters and cats....like most of the rest of us. If I has to say anything bad about him, it that his cat is actually fatter than mine....and that makes me jealous. 

There we have it. However, Quickseller will not be satisfied with this as he is biased in the case and this whole thread is just a smear campaign against minerjones. If anyone has proven himself to be trustworthy around here, then that is minerjones (with all his flaws and cats).

I will have you know those auctions MINERJONES did, he did for me. Know this, there were extenuating circumstances involved with each of those auctions. Not that I feel I owe Quickseller an answer...but some of you are top of the line traders and sellers, you guys and gals all know who you are, and you know I'm an honest person. If you're looking for someone to blame, well then, blame me. Quickseller....you're lower that the belly of a snake in a wagon wheel rut. Go get yourself a life, and leave the good people in this forum be. Slither someplace else.

Shocking? Mishandled? Are you serious? That was the setup that was used by several different escrows at the time, and everyone was informed about the risk before investing. The problem was solved and every investor who claimed a refund got paid back in full.
This has nothing to do with the OP, and is just used in the continued defamation campaign by QS. This totally does not have to do anything with escrow competiton, *cough*.

Those auctions were held on behalf of other users and hence it should have been specified in those threads. The users who backed out should be tagged by neutral as without a valid reason they can't just back out. Don't put a coin for sale then if there are any doubts. It looks shady.

Also backing out from an auction is unethical but it can't be considered scamming until the user doesn't pay back the funds he has been paid for such an auction but nobody should trust his auctions at a later stage as he can again back out from a commitment. Also these auctions on a forum are not the same as real ones where you need to sign a contract and then you need to pay a fine too (I suppose).


Edit: Thanks Lauda for the update. If the issue was solved, then I take my words back. However, the auctions were atleast not handled well. 4 auctions cancelled due to the owners gives minerjones a bad name. It looks like he was acting as an escrow for those deals and things which he doesn't have any control over should be handled this way.

WTF are you talking about OgDogg... you cant even pay back nastyfan loans in full. Idiot