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Topic: MINERS UNITE! Block the FBI coins. Do not fund violent underground organizations - page 7. (Read 10019 times)

legendary
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Isnt it impossible to "block" coins. What kind of bullshit is that.

If it is possible(which would be pretty damn stupid), then do not block the fbi coins....would look pretty stupid for bitcoin overall if that ever happened.

It is possible for the coins to be blocked.  Just like it is possible for the FBI to give them to Seans Outpost.  It COULD happen.  It just won't.  
QFT and all that needs to be said, really.
Don't be so sure. Eventually it will happen. And first signs are already there. Prioritizing transactions gets done. De-prioritizing (to zero) will come.

That is not the same.  It actually takes a 51% attack to DE-prioritize to zero.  Any pool or solo miner can include the transaction.  It takes 51% of the hashing power to ACTIVELY block the transaction not just neglect to include it. 
legendary
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★YoBit.Net★ 350+ Coins Exchange & Dice
blocking coins.... are you actually serious or is this thread a joke ?
if we block coins why not block coins to BFL or somewhere else.
really bad idea to put it nicely.

as others said, fbi will still get their money, thus pointless.........
legendary
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All cryptos are FIAT digital currency. Do not use.
WTF is wrong with you people !

This is our chance to stick it to "the man" and to show the world the power we have with our cryptos !

FYI.. The price is guaranteed to drop if the goverment is allowed to keep it and the mt gox piles.

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I wouldn't count on GHash.IO for anything..  --->> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ghashio-and-double-spending-against-betcoin-dice-327767

They should also be considered a threat.
sr. member
Activity: 288
Merit: 250
I don't want to block the coins, I want to watch the US government make the terrible mistake of trading precious BTC for worthless fiat this early in the fiat->crypto transition, so we can all later laugh at them for their folly.

I want the clever folks who buy these coins to make out like bandits at the FBI's expense. This will be a "stupid government" joke for the rest of history.
Good one. I prefer to make fun of the "government" for thinking that they own the silkroad coins.

The blockchain is neutral. It is up to payment accepters to filter out Bitcoins.
This is not anymore possible after the coins circulate again. Now is the time.

How boring. This has already been discussed (at length, multiple times) and it hasn't happened. Get some fresh ideas.

Nothing is as powerful as an idea whose time has come”, Sir Victor Hugo 1852

The organization you speak of has those coins because the operator of the marketplace was unable to protect themselves even though fantastic tools were (are) available.

How about starting a campaign to teach people to protect themselves instead.
You should start this campaign which I will support. It is your idea. People make mistakes. This is their nature.




I don't want to block the coins, I want to watch the US government make the terrible mistake of trading precious BTC for worthless fiat this early in the fiat->crypto transition, so we can all later laugh at them for their folly.

I want the clever folks who buy these coins to make out like bandits at the FBI's expense. This will be a "stupid government" joke for the rest of history.

I wonder which one of these:

Top Ten Economic Mistakes of History

will be replaced with:

In 2014, the former government of the USA sold almost 3 trillion satoshis for less value than a single ton of gold. By the year 2100, their value exceeded the value of all mined gold in the entire planet.

Sidenote: In the year 2100, the fiat currency earned from the sale of those bitcoins wouldn't even buy a pizza!



This, plus, why lose our own values?
hero member
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I don't want to block the coins, I want to watch the US government make the terrible mistake of trading precious BTC for worthless fiat this early in the fiat->crypto transition, so we can all later laugh at them for their folly.

I want the clever folks who buy these coins to make out like bandits at the FBI's expense. This will be a "stupid government" joke for the rest of history.

I wonder which one of these:

Top Ten Economic Mistakes of History

will be replaced with:

In 2014, the former government of the USA sold almost 3 trillion satoshis for less value than a single ton of gold. By the year 2100, their value exceeded the value of all mined gold in the entire planet.

Sidenote: In the year 2100, the fiat currency earned from the sale of those bitcoins wouldn't even buy a pizza!


full member
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BTS: merockstar420
It's tempting, how often is there an avenue for the good guys to fight back?

But if the community were to sanction this we'd be lowering ourselves to their level and compromising our values.

It would destroy Bitcoin's hard earned legitimacy and the price would go plummeting as speculators saw how easily they could be deprived the value of their holdings.
sr. member
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Turning money into heat since 2011.
This has been asked before.  Not gonna happen..
donator
Activity: 1617
Merit: 1012
Isnt it impossible to "block" coins. What kind of bullshit is that.

If it is possible(which would be pretty damn stupid), then do not block the fbi coins....would look pretty stupid for bitcoin overall if that ever happened.

It is possible for the coins to be blocked.  Just like it is possible for the FBI to give them to Seans Outpost.  It COULD happen.  It just won't.  
QFT and all that needs to be said, really.
Don't be so sure. Eventually it will happen. And first signs are already there. Prioritizing transactions gets done. De-prioritizing (to zero) will come.
Of course it might happen, if enough fools think that destroying fungibility is a good thing.
donator
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Gerald Davis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fungibility

If Bitcoins aren't fungible then they aren't a currency and have no purpose or value.
sr. member
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Technology and Women. Amazing.
1 bitcoin must always be worth 1 bitcoin, otherwise the protocol is useless.
legendary
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bitcoin developers should never ever put code in to block any particular coin

however if you have a problem such as the recent topics of satoshi's hoard and fbi's hoard. how about get off your lame asses and email all the exchanges that deal with FIAT, and complain to them to ensure they do not allow the FBI to cash out.

oh by the way you dont have to get off your lame asses to send an email. yet you get the solution you truly want, without fucking up the bitcoin protocol. also your showing some active solution to your problem and not just whinging about it on a forum

Cheesy
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Isnt it impossible to "block" coins. What kind of bullshit is that.

If it is possible(which would be pretty damn stupid), then do not block the fbi coins....would look pretty stupid for bitcoin overall if that ever happened.

It is possible for the coins to be blocked.  Just like it is possible for the FBI to give them to Seans Outpost.  It COULD happen.  It just won't.  
QFT and all that needs to be said, really.

yep. bitcoin is supposed to stand for neutral transactions; not to force change in things that you don't like. otherwise, that would defeat the purpose and it would just be a continuation of the establishment/status quo.
newbie
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Isnt it impossible to "block" coins. What kind of bullshit is that.

If it is possible(which would be pretty damn stupid), then do not block the fbi coins....would look pretty stupid for bitcoin overall if that ever happened.

It is possible for the coins to be blocked.  Just like it is possible for the FBI to give them to Seans Outpost.  It COULD happen.  It just won't.  
QFT and all that needs to be said, really.
Don't be so sure. Eventually it will happen. And first signs are already there. Prioritizing transactions gets done. De-prioritizing (to zero) will come.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
Isnt it impossible to "block" coins. What kind of bullshit is that.

If it is possible(which would be pretty damn stupid), then do not block the fbi coins....would look pretty stupid for bitcoin overall if that ever happened.

It is possible for the coins to be blocked.  Just like it is possible for the FBI to give them to Seans Outpost.  It COULD happen.  It just won't.  
QFT and all that needs to be said, really.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
this idea seems like it would set a dangerous precedent. If people decide to start blocking coins doesn't that defeat the purpose of bitcoin?
Therefore you need to define your purpose of Bitcoin. My purpose is probably not your purpose.

Exactly! Your purpose isn't my purpose. So I'm not going to tell you how to use yours, and hope you don't try to legislate how I use mine.

Freedom isn't freedom if it's restricted. The only freedom that might should be restricted is the freedom to do harm to others. I agree that the FBI does harm to others, but in this situation (specifically selling seized bitcoin) they are not doing harm to anyone.

EDIT: I expounded on my argument.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1004
Isnt it impossible to "block" coins. What kind of bullshit is that.

If it is possible(which would be pretty damn stupid), then do not block the fbi coins....would look pretty stupid for bitcoin overall if that ever happened.

It is possible for the coins to be blocked.  Just like it is possible for the FBI to give them to Seans Outpost.  It COULD happen.  It just won't.  Those two pools will not do that as they will see the value of Bitcoin plummet and have everyone left and right asking them to block more coins.  
newbie
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Merit: 0
Selling Bitcoins means also lower price for your Bitcoins! The money printers will not last for ever. Let's start early.
Mining pools collaborating to censor transactions will send the price of bitcoin to zero, which is a lot lower than any price the US gov is going to achieve.

Mining pools attempting to censor transactions without near-universal support will spell the end for those mining pools, while everyone else carries on.

At best I'm going to have to assume that you're misguided and failing to think this through. We don't need to change your mind or convince you to stop because the overwhelmingly likely outcome of any attempt to do this is failure. At this point this thread is just noise, like many before it that have sought to ban a certain class of transactions for idealogical reasons.

Miners chose Mining Pools. Mining Pools already prefer transactions based on their included fee among other things. The majority always carries on.

Start differentiating, offer real choice! No blind obedience. Do especially not pray to the blockchain hoping that this will solve every problem magically!

If the majority of the miners decide to block (and not censor) transactions it is their decision.

This is not only a ideological reason. It is a very practical too. Here we can show that we have power. Power which is not anymore under control of the "government".
hero member
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Isnt it impossible to "block" coins. What kind of bullshit is that.

If it is possible(which would be pretty damn stupid), then do not block the fbi coins....would look pretty stupid for bitcoin overall if that ever happened.
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
We are the hardworking miners and believers in bitcoin who supports this ecosystem and now the FBI wants to benefit it by selling our property at current relative high price?!
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
Selling Bitcoins means also lower price for your Bitcoins! The money printers will not last for ever. Let's start early.
Mining pools collaborating to censor transactions will send the price of bitcoin to zero, which is a lot lower than any price the US gov is going to achieve.

Mining pools attempting to censor transactions without near-universal support will spell the end for those mining pools, while everyone else carries on.

At best I'm going to have to assume that you're misguided and failing to think this through. We don't need to change your mind or convince you to stop because the overwhelmingly likely outcome of any attempt to do this is failure. At this point this thread is just noise, like many before it that have sought to ban a certain class of transactions for idealogical reasons.
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