Sad that more than 17% of people don't understand that the whole point of Bitcoin is that it is fungible and DOES NOT GET BLOCKED.
This is a terrible precedent.
Topic: MINERS UNITE! Block the FBI coins. Do not fund violent underground organizations - page 5. (Read 10019 times)
June 15, 2014, 08:36:39 AM
June 15, 2014, 07:28:07 AM
Please enlighten us as to why you believe they should be allowed to get away with this.
WTC 1993 was an FBI job --> http://youtu.be/_2vpcABWJiY
Assuming you are 100% correct and the FBI is the source of all evil please enlighten us as to how detroying Bitcoin in any way hurts the evil FBI empire.WTC 1993 was an FBI job --> http://youtu.be/_2vpcABWJiY
If only ONE transaction is ever blocked for any non-technical reason, such what you propose here, confidence in the neutrality of the blockchain will be instantly ruined and a gigantic panic-sell will follow, driving the BTC price to zero.
Period.
"Je ne partage pas vos idées mais je me battrai jusqu'à la mort pour que vous puissiez les exprimer"
"I don't agree with your ideas but I would fight to death so that you can express them" - Voltaire
Well said. As I have stated before several times the proposal destroys Bitcoin and does not hurt them even a tiny little bit. The GOV ends up with the cash for the sale, the people buying the BTC from them end up with nothing, and Bitcoin is destroyed for nothing.Period.
"Je ne partage pas vos idées mais je me battrai jusqu'à la mort pour que vous puissiez les exprimer"
"I don't agree with your ideas but I would fight to death so that you can express them" - Voltaire
On top of that the proposal is all hot air anyway because the proposal and others like it will never happen.
June 15, 2014, 07:22:00 AM
If only ONE transaction is ever blocked for any non-technical reason, such what you propose here, confidence in the neutrality of the blockchain will be instantly ruined and a gigantic panic-sell will follow, driving the BTC price to zero.
Period.
"Je ne partage pas vos idées mais je me battrai jusqu'à la mort pour que vous puissiez les exprimer"
"I don't agree with your ideas but I would fight to death so that you can express them" - Voltaire
Period.
"Je ne partage pas vos idées mais je me battrai jusqu'à la mort pour que vous puissiez les exprimer"
"I don't agree with your ideas but I would fight to death so that you can express them" - Voltaire
June 15, 2014, 07:16:16 AM
OP is a troll or an idiot or has a very specific agenda. Ignore mode on.
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Please enlighten us as to why you believe they should be allowed to get away with this.
WTC 1993 was an FBI job --> http://youtu.be/_2vpcABWJiY
June 15, 2014, 06:40:49 AM
I'm not sure how blocking the FBI coins would affect the price, but I guess it would have a positive effect on the price as long as there is no reason to believe the majority of the users will go berserk and block a lot of addresses for minor reasons or even pure greed.
Great post if you are being sarcastic. 
June 15, 2014, 05:00:31 AM
that's enough reason for me to end the war on drugs
June 15, 2014, 04:08:13 AM
I don't want to block the coins, I want to watch the US government make the terrible mistake of trading precious BTC for worthless fiat this early in the fiat->crypto transition, so we can all later laugh at them for their folly.
I want the clever folks who buy these coins to make out like bandits at the FBI's expense. This will be a "stupid government" joke for the rest of history.
I want the clever folks who buy these coins to make out like bandits at the FBI's expense. This will be a "stupid government" joke for the rest of history.
I wonder which one of these:
Top Ten Economic Mistakes of History
will be replaced with:
In 2014, the former government of the USA sold almost 3 trillion satoshis for less value than a single ton of gold. By the year 2100, their value exceeded the value of all mined gold in the entire planet.
Sidenote: In the year 2100, the fiat currency earned from the sale of those bitcoins wouldn't even buy a pizza!
I'd also say the disastrous modern war on drugs will have earned a place on that moronic policy list, for the people of the future, although I suppose that's more a legal blunder than an economic one.
It's a shame that beheading of terrible lawmakers has gone out of style. It would be so cathartic for repressed Americans. Perhaps when our house of cards economy implodes that will change, there's always hope.
June 15, 2014, 02:36:11 AM
Sure, if enough miners used your changes it could be done
June 14, 2014, 10:01:11 PM
LOL
sad thing is people actually believe this shit.
sad thing is people actually believe this shit.
June 14, 2014, 08:47:37 PM
I want the clever folks who buy these coins to make out like bandits at the FBI's expense. 
June 14, 2014, 07:29:04 PM
Even though I do admit I'd like to see this happen, heh. I'd say it not a good idea for so many reasons. I think the biggest one that comes to mind for me right now would be that I believe it goes against the basic principles of BTC in general. Breaking the rules would make the community look like hypocrites also in my opinion.
We have to chalk this one up to a loss but I'd guess it's just a matter of opinion at this point in time.
We have to chalk this one up to a loss but I'd guess it's just a matter of opinion at this point in time.
June 14, 2014, 07:16:15 PM
OP is a troll or an idiot or has a very specific agenda. Ignore mode on.
EDIT: BTW:
Let's do even better:
AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!
EDIT: BTW:
Quote
MINERS UNITE!
Let's do even better:
AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!
June 14, 2014, 07:10:18 PM
If you think this is a good idea, go ahead and fork the client and fork the blockchain. Then see who and how many people agree. We'll have two coins, bitcoin and some other alt-coin. Everyone who has bitcoin will also have the same number of coins on the alt-chain.
This type of thing has been discussed many times and none of the people who think this is a good idea ever do anything. For heavens sake, all the people who want to ruin the fungibility of bitcoin just go ahead and make the patches, fork everything, and release them once and for all so we can put this issue to bed with everyone either thinking it is a great idea or a terrible idea.
I think most people will be dumping the alt-coin and buying more bitcoins, but actually doing it will give hard evidence as to who likes it and who doesn't. So, please just start coding and release the alt-coin already.
“Nothing is as powerful as an idea whose time has come”, Sir Victor Hugo 1852
This type of thing has been discussed many times and none of the people who think this is a good idea ever do anything. For heavens sake, all the people who want to ruin the fungibility of bitcoin just go ahead and make the patches, fork everything, and release them once and for all so we can put this issue to bed with everyone either thinking it is a great idea or a terrible idea.
I think most people will be dumping the alt-coin and buying more bitcoins, but actually doing it will give hard evidence as to who likes it and who doesn't. So, please just start coding and release the alt-coin already.
I don't want to block the coins, I want to watch the US government make the terrible mistake of trading precious BTC for worthless fiat this early in the fiat->crypto transition, so we can all later laugh at them for their folly.
I want the clever folks who buy these coins to make out like bandits at the FBI's expense. This will be a "stupid government" joke for the rest of history.
Good one. I prefer to make fun of the "government" for thinking that they own the silkroad coins. I want the clever folks who buy these coins to make out like bandits at the FBI's expense. This will be a "stupid government" joke for the rest of history.
The blockchain is neutral. It is up to payment accepters to filter out Bitcoins.
This is not anymore possible after the coins circulate again. Now is the time.How boring. This has already been discussed (at length, multiple times) and it hasn't happened. Get some fresh ideas.
“Nothing is as powerful as an idea whose time has come”, Sir Victor Hugo 1852
The organization you speak of has those coins because the operator of the marketplace was unable to protect themselves even though fantastic tools were (are) available.
How about starting a campaign to teach people to protect themselves instead.
You should start this campaign which I will support. It is your idea. People make mistakes. This is their nature.How about starting a campaign to teach people to protect themselves instead.
June 14, 2014, 07:05:10 PM
this idea seems like it would set a dangerous precedent. If people decide to start blocking coins doesn't that defeat the purpose of bitcoin?
Not really, as long as there is a majority vote.
If a majority agrees he reason is a good enough reason, they could decide to block it.
Personally I'm pretty neutral in this case. But I'm unlikely to actually join in blocking any transactions. Except maybe if proof was found that an address belongs to a scammer and the proof is good enough.
FBI seized coins well... It's a bit of a hard decision but I think the whole war on drugs is indeed a bit silly. If people want to destroy their own lives with drugs it's their own responsibility. And I believe making drugs illegal only causes more problems because illegal drugs are more profitable. If drugs were legal they would be cheap and there would not be much incentive to sell them anymore.
I'm not sure how blocking the FBI coins would affect the price, but I guess it would have a positive effect on the price as long as there is no reason to believe the majority of the users will go berserk and block a lot of addresses for minor reasons or even pure greed.
June 14, 2014, 05:50:53 PM
FORK them, before they fork us !
June 14, 2014, 03:44:49 PM
Rather than blacklisting the FBI address, why not get miners to charge massive transaction fees on spends originating there?
Let's think this one through and see if it has any chance:1) Some or even most of the miners decide to charge extra fees on transactions from the FBI.
2) Some do not go along.
3) The FBI does not pay the extra fees.
4) Eventually the transactions get put into blocks by the miners that do not agree.
Darn. Still can't use the Bitcoin network to promote your personal feelings. Shucks.
June 14, 2014, 03:34:42 PM
Rather than blacklisting the FBI address, why not get miners to charge massive transaction fees on spends originating there?
June 13, 2014, 10:27:07 PM
Even if we forget the fact that this would centralize bitcoin, the FBI were within their rights to seize those coins and therefore there is no reason why the coins should be blocked
You obviously have no idea of how vile and corrupt these maggots are.
http://youtu.be/I2bnd-OdwMo
What if they are planning to use them as part of a 51% attack ?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/its-already-48-no-one-care-about-ghash-650330
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WTF !
Its freaky to hear FOX speaking the truth for a change ! GOO FOX !
June 13, 2014, 10:46:02 AM
Even if we forget the fact that this would centralize bitcoin, the FBI were within their rights to seize those coins and therefore there is no reason why the coins should be blocked
June 13, 2014, 10:42:05 AM
lol !
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WOOT !
Some of the "unsure" voters have fallen off the fence.
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