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December 23, 2018, 02:30:22 PM



Unfortunately, not just first batch , but all the others will be made of non-branded cards. I dont know if Minex and Boris really does not know what branded card is or just pretending they do not know. Regardless ,they will be in big trouble for huge violation of Mastercard rules and regulations about prohibition of using third party, non-branded cards for theirs own customers.


I will explain in details what is really going on:

- Minex does not have contract about sub-issuing with bank or Master service provider and consequently Minex cards are non-branded by default(without Minex or Chain2Pay logo on it,only bank logo)

- Minex opened business account with bank(most likely it is Privat bank again) and opens sub-accounts in its customers behalf,presenting them as their workers.

- first batch of cards is non-branded and non-personalized (without cardholder name on it) Mastercard debit card,which every bank issue to new customer in a matter of few hours.The same card we have seen in videos of testing cards. It has 200 Euros daily limit and 1000 Euros monthly limit.Whatever of 4 card types from Minex site you ordered, all customers will get same card.

- all other batches will also be non-branded cards,but personalized (with cardholder name on it) and with same limits.These cards bank cant issue so fast as non-personalized.It needs 2-3 weeks for it and that is reason why Minex who wanted to give some cards as soon as possible didnt have patience and launched first batch as non-personalized cards,without cardholder names

- Minex said that all batches after first will be consisted from branded cards,but that is not true. It is intentional lie or Boris does not really know true difference between truly branded card and non-branded personalized card.

- now we will look cat and mouse game between Mastercard(cat) and Minex(mouse). As more cards flows in, the more chances that Minex would has been caught and sanctioned(card cancelled) by Mastercard.

Let the game begin !



 I could not resist and wrote. I would not answer, but your message does not contain trolling (although it contains an unsubstantiated charge), unlike some other characters who write here.

 The fact is that you can’t even assume that minexcoin will have maps as a logo, since you don’t know how the cards that are sent out work. They can write at least “MARS” on them and these cards will work as well. It does not play any role. And mastercard will absolutely be all the same, since these cards have no relation to cryptocurrency, and work only with Fiat.
But the question "how was it done?" - no one will give you the answer. Maybe someday you will understand if you start thinking sometimes.

Yurez I know how payment card system works. You cant use some other company or bank cards as you own. It is fact,not mine opinion.

Minex can try to violate Mastercard rules and regulations,but if people from Minex believe how they can outsmart Mastercard they are so wrong. You really think that there are not some others very smart people around the world who didnt try already to find a way to use non-branded cards as theirs own?? You really think that all other companies who issued branded cards wasted 8-10 months for fullfilling different regulations for nothing?

These Minex non-branded cards are related to cryptocurrencies,because origin of the money on the accounts is from selling cryptos.I will give you example what Mastercard did in such cases :

- Two Mastercard Master service providers(they have license obtained directly from Mastercard) with worldwide license Epayments and Wagecan allowed that money related from selling cryptocurencies flows to some of theirs cards without getting Mastercard approval for that. Due to violations of agreement ,Mastercard revoked licenses given to them.

- If Mastercard did that to two master service providers with worldwide licenses, you can just imagine what they will do to Minex. It will be blanket ban without any prior warning. You can count on that and if Minex really think how they cant outsmart Mastercard ,then people who run Minex are either too arrogant or too stupid or both.

All I said in texts above how Minex is trying to sell customers non-branded personalized cards as branded is true. When it explodes it will be end of Minex for real.

All so call die hard Minex supporters know that and they hope there will be enough fools to take a bait with payment cards and push price of MNX up so they can dump on them before final crash.


 
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December 23, 2018, 01:33:23 PM
thanks for reposting my photos from MNX office. Now every one will know it's real. Grin Grin Grin
Did I miss something? What are these lavish expenses that JollyWanker speaks of? The coffee machine? Or maybe it's the ping pong table. Geez...what f**king tool this guy this.
Something like that. Minexcoin have coffee machine in the office, you can't trust to Minexcoin because they drinking coffee from coffee machine. And like that every day 24/7
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December 23, 2018, 01:27:41 PM
thanks for reposting my photos from MNX office. Now every one will know it's real. Grin Grin Grin
Did I miss something? What are these lavish expenses that JollyWanker speaks of? The coffee machine? Or maybe it's the ping pong table. Geez...what f**king tool this guy is.
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December 23, 2018, 11:23:07 AM
thanks for reposting my photos from MNX office. Now every one will know it's real. Grin Grin Grin
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December 23, 2018, 11:14:05 AM
With all these "lavish" expenses why are these scammers only willing to return 80% of funds that people paid for their card?

Where is the other 20% going?

Even scammer Temhuk is photographed in the Minexsystem/Minexcoin/Minexpay office with his frightening smirk receiving free clothing and drinking free coffee and playing free table tennis
  Roll Eyes




Foto report from MNX office.

Present from MNX team.




Me in conference office.




Boris CEO of MinexSystems going for brake Cheesy




Developers at work.




One more developer office.




Roman. The main blockchain developer.




Support,Bank, Marketing and bounty  team at work.





Enjoy space.
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December 23, 2018, 11:09:36 AM
And now this. "They" try to threaten people.



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The scammer fool Temhuk sent me a PM saying he and his scammer friends "will do everything to destroy my reputation"


I received a message from Temhuk, the first he sent me. I replied asking him to own up to being a scammer.

He sent me another message (second one) but he lied again. I told him he is a liar and that I will try to save people from investing in Minecoin.

Temhuk sent me another message (third one) saying he and his scammer friends "will do everything to destroy my reputation"

 Roll Eyes



Now that people who have been waiting many months to get their money back are threatening to go to the police, I am expecting the threats these scammers make to increase
OMG, why you are so stupid? Cards already send around the world. Can you understand that? CARDS ARE ALREADY SENT!!!
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December 23, 2018, 11:00:41 AM



Unfortunately, not just first batch , but all the others will be made of non-branded cards. I dont know if Minex and Boris really does not know what branded card is or just pretending they do not know. Regardless ,they will be in big trouble for huge violation of Mastercard rules and regulations about prohibition of using third party, non-branded cards for theirs own customers.


I will explain in details what is really going on:

- Minex does not have contract about sub-issuing with bank or Master service provider and consequently Minex cards are non-branded by default(without Minex or Chain2Pay logo on it,only bank logo)

- Minex opened business account with bank(most likely it is Privat bank again) and opens sub-accounts in its customers behalf,presenting them as their workers.

- first batch of cards is non-branded and non-personalized (without cardholder name on it) Mastercard debit card,which every bank issue to new customer in a matter of few hours.The same card we have seen in videos of testing cards. It has 200 Euros daily limit and 1000 Euros monthly limit.Whatever of 4 card types from Minex site you ordered, all customers will get same card.

- all other batches will also be non-branded cards,but personalized (with cardholder name on it) and with same limits.These cards bank cant issue so fast as non-personalized.It needs 2-3 weeks for it and that is reason why Minex who wanted to give some cards as soon as possible didnt have patience and launched first batch as non-personalized cards,without cardholder names

- Minex said that all batches after first will be consisted from branded cards,but that is not true. It is intentional lie or Boris does not really know true difference between truly branded card and non-branded personalized card.

- now we will look cat and mouse game between Mastercard(cat) and Minex(mouse). As more cards flows in, the more chances that Minex would has been caught and sanctioned(card cancelled) by Mastercard.

Let the game begin !



 I could not resist and wrote. I would not answer, but your message does not contain trolling (although it contains an unsubstantiated charge), unlike some other characters who write here.

 The fact is that you can’t even assume that minexcoin will have maps as a logo, since you don’t know how the cards that are sent out work. They can write at least “MARS” on them and these cards will work as well. It does not play any role. And mastercard will absolutely be all the same, since these cards have no relation to cryptocurrency, and work only with Fiat.
But the question "how was it done?" - no one will give you the answer. Maybe someday you will understand if you start thinking sometimes.
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December 23, 2018, 10:55:40 AM
And now this. "They" try to threaten people.





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The scammer fool Temhuk sent me a PM saying he and his scammer friends "will do everything to destroy my reputation" 


I received a message from Temhuk, the first he sent me. I replied asking him to own up to being a scammer.

He sent me another message (second one) but he lied again. I told him he is a liar and that I will try to save people from investing in Minecoin.

Temhuk sent me another message (third one) saying he and his scammer friends "will do everything to destroy my reputation"

 Roll Eyes



Now that people who have been waiting many months to get their money back are threatening to go to the police, I am expecting the threats these scammers make to increase
sr. member
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December 23, 2018, 10:30:18 AM
Has anyone got any money back from MinexPay?  or is this money totally lost...

No. Still they reply refunds will be processed after cards are shipped. I gave them an ultimatum, if they dont refund me in the next month I will contact Estonian Customer Protection services.



If they have Estonian company registration then please report them. They deserve to have their licence revoked.

They are scammers. How can any legitimate company say they will give back just 80% of what you or any customer sent them?
Minexsystems is 100% legal company and providing cards to customers now.
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December 23, 2018, 10:28:07 AM
Has anyone got any money back from MinexPay?  or is this money totally lost...

No. Still they reply refunds will be processed after cards are shipped. I gave them an ultimatum, if they dont refund me in the next month I will contact Estonian Customer Protection services.



If they have Estonian company registration then please report them. They deserve to have their licence revoked.

They are scammers. How can any legitimate company say they will give back just 80% of what you or any customer sent them?
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December 23, 2018, 10:25:25 AM
"these very rich guys from Serbia"  can find you and make a some correction to your ugly face

 Grin Grin Grin I thinked that you are smart guy, but looks like you are just a baby boy.
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December 23, 2018, 10:24:26 AM
when you avoiding laws and regulations just one mail can destroy all your  dreams remember that



 Grin Grin Grin Grin cards already sent to customers but this idiot still here and trying to prove something.

if "cards already sent to customers" where tha fck is our refund





How can any legitimate company say they will give 80% refund?

Did you report these scammers to the Ukrainian police?
Try to report by yourself, why do you asking for someone else? are you afraid to show your real name to the world and Santa can knock to your doors? You are so brave in internet, but I'm sure in real life you are just fat pig which is angry to all world because you are looser.

 That few MNX will be refunded if these very rich guys from Serbia  Grin Grin Grin want that. Now is Christmas time, nobody is in the office.



When are they refunding the people who ordered this non-existent card?
You can get coins back at any time.

So after this lie ... you and  minx team lie again
C'mon mate, I think you are smart enough and you must understand one thing. They finish sending cards in late Saturday evening. Now is Sunday, then will be Christmas. Than they need to connect real customers cards to the system, than will be New Year celebrations. Than they will need to check everything. And after that if they will have some time, they will make refund. Team priority is cards and customers which will use that cards. Please try to understand that simple thing. And call back your dog named Jollygood. I'm tired from him.
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December 23, 2018, 10:17:32 AM
when you avoiding laws and regulations just one mail can destroy all your  dreams remember that



 Grin Grin Grin Grin cards already sent to customers but this idiot still here and trying to prove something.

if "cards already sent to customers" where tha fck is our refund





How can any legitimate company say they will give 80% refund?

Did you report these scammers to the Ukrainian police?
Try to report by yourself, why do you asking for someone else? are you afraid to show your real name to the world and Santa can knock to your doors? You are so brave in internet, but I'm sure in real life you are just fat pig which is angry to all world because you are looser.

 That few MNX will be refunded if these very rich guys from Serbia  Grin Grin Grin want that. Now is Christmas time, nobody is in the office.



When are they refunding the people who ordered this non-existent card?
You can get coins back at any time.

So after this lie ... you and  minx team lie again
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December 23, 2018, 10:09:41 AM
when you avoiding laws and regulations just one mail can destroy all your  dreams remember that



 Grin Grin Grin Grin cards already sent to customers but this idiot still here and trying to prove something.

if "cards already sent to customers" where tha fck is our refund





How can any legitimate company say they will give 80% refund?

Did you report these scammers to the Ukrainian police?
Try to report by yourself, why do you asking for someone else? are you afraid to show your real name to the world and Santa can knock to your doors? You are so brave in internet, but I'm sure in real life you are just fat pig which is angry to all world because you are looser.

 That few MNX will be refunded if these very rich guys from Serbia  Grin Grin Grin want that. Now is Christmas time, nobody is in the office.
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December 23, 2018, 09:56:33 AM
when you avoiding laws and regulations just one mail can destroy all your  dreams remember that



 Grin Grin Grin Grin cards already sent to customers but this idiot still here and trying to prove something.

if "cards already sent to customers" where tha fck is our refund





How can any legitimate company say they will give 80% refund?

Did you report these scammers to the Ukrainian police?
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December 23, 2018, 09:41:52 AM
when you avoiding laws and regulations just one mail can destroy all your  dreams remember that



 Grin Grin Grin Grin cards already sent to customers but this idiot still here and trying to prove something.

if "cards already sent to customers" where tha fck is our refund

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December 23, 2018, 07:40:45 AM


In the meantime Minex ICO fund reserve on address XWkxDTkp9uzvtMCE7NRVphzbwMigLrzyzK dropped to 189408 MNX coins (only 7% left from originally 2.7 millions), 100.000 coins went to Instabuy in a few days.

https://bchain.info/MNX/addr/XWkxDTkp9uzvtMCE7NRVphzbwMigLrzyzK


Also Minexbank reserves located on address XVFYK9MgdMDhYwwnTsEkqBFvUytC5QtWE4 dropped to 235464 coins (only 15.7% from original 1.5 millions) . Dropping rate is about 100.000 coins or more per month and if continued at this pace Minexbank  will bankrupt for 2-3 months. Though, there is possibility that Minex will misuse Developper fund and put one part of it in Minexbank and the other in Instabuy.

https://bchain.info/MNX/addr/XVFYK9MgdMDhYwwnTsEkqBFvUytC5QtWE4


Parking percents was changed. Your research is useless now. Like every research done by you before. By the way, how much you getting in $$ for your job here?

And every your message is confirmed by scammer Jolly straight away  Grin Grin    Looks like need to make your trust red because you are working together.


Sure, it was changed,but as people said: Too little and too late. Parking rate of 45% per year is still too high and can provide just one extra month,maybe,maybe two ,nothing more.

I cant ban anyone to reply on mine messages,not you,not jolly. Minex associated people confirmed each other messages regulary and I have never said that it means they are one person.

I dont work with anybody and Iam not paid by anybody. Mine opinions are mine only.

On the other side you have so deep connections with Minex that is impossible to believe that you(and few others Minex associated people) have not huge benefit from it.



Lolz....who told you it won't go lower in the next memorandum and have you forgotten that Minexpay will also lock some coin for activation of the card?


Minex is presenting new memorandum every 6-8 months or more. Then it will be too late. Only way is that Minex use Developping fund to finance Minexbank and InstaBuy.

Cards wont help ,because problem is inflicted by too high parking rates.Whole parking system is unsustainable from the beginning.It is huge mistake,responsible for most of devaluation of MNX coin.


You are attacking MNX since beginning of October and texting here false info almost every day. And you want to tell me that you are not with bath of FUDders from Serbia?  Grin Grin C'mon, you must hide your identity better. Cards are send to customers and you can pass that info to your friends. It's no sense to continue FUD attack anymore. And next time when you will buy someones account please be more care full.  

Iam not attacking anyone or hiding anything, just exposing network of Minex lies,misleadings,misinformations,etc... I have not connection with any FUDers,from Serbia or somewhere else. You are a complete fool if you think that I bought some account - Iam not like you and you buddies with multiple false identities. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy I have only this account and never had anyone else,unlike you and your friends.You probably think that if you are a professional FUDer that everbody else is too. Roll Eyes Such thinking is calling professional deformation. Grin

Iam sure you and your buddies are heavily pissed off  Cheesy,because all your plans to deceive people fall apart. Only FUD here is FUD spreading from people deeply associated and personally connected with Minex.

You and your FUDers buddies on Minex paylist are making the worst possible advertising for Minex and together with Boris incompetence destroyed Minex in complete. Now, you are luring naive people to dump on them some more worthless coins before Minex end.

You cant blame me for everything wrong Minex did.No one forced Minex to use lies and misinformations or create such catastrophic economic model.

I will continue to debunk your lies(and praise if you do something legal and good), you can count on it, until Minex becomes decent and trustful company or else. Wink


Grin Grin Grin Cards are send to customers around the world and nobody care anymore about your researches. You failed Ha-Ha  Cheesy



I do like Simpsons Cheesy

I didnt fail in anything. All I said about Minex proved as truth.

If you think that Iam against Minex payment card program then you are wrong. Iam only against this wrong way Minex use to achieve it.I was hoped that Minex will use longer,but safer and legal way to get fully branded cards,but mine hopes were in vain.

Sending non-branded cards with completely unknown basic features as card issuer, fees,limits, nominated currency is not something good or worth of glorification.

When all these backfires to Minex(and it will for sure),all of you will retreat and leave naive customers to try alone to find a way to his/her accounts and money.

No one from you would have courage and take responsibilty for taken actions,as it proved multiple times till now.



Relax dude,come back few months later and see how things will be good or bad.

Iam relaxed,thank you. Unfortunately if Minex leadership persists on present way of leading business,there will be no Minex for few months. If Iam stop posting ,problems wont dissapear.

No one can run longterm successfull business based on constant deceiving of customers and attacking same when they point on obvious problems. After its operational update from 29th. November, I thought that Minex would finally be back on normal tracks and that they will go slower but safer way and eventually get away from problems.How wrong I was. They made U turn and throttle up to the maximum on the old path of avoiding laws,regulations,everything, without any thinking about consequences of theirs acts which putting theirs customers in jeopardy.

When everything falls apart, there will be not at single one die hard Minex supporter here to face with the rage of customers.


I think in this week there should be a medium post about issuing bank and other necessary info for customers
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December 23, 2018, 04:47:45 AM
Racquemis1 has been added back to my IGNORE list because of nonsense propaganda he continues to post alongside TeMHuK and paid scammer trolls such as Jedgar and yurez83.

These fools want investors to believe Minexpay branded cards will be issued "soon"

They are a pathetic group of scammers  Roll Eyes

 Grin Grin Grin Grin cards already sent to customers but this idiot still here and trying to prove something.

I don´t see any announcements about shipping cards. If they are shipping where the fuck is my refund?

I thought you wrote before they promised to refund 80% to all those that wanted a refund.

What happened in your case?

Nothing happened. Still waiting for my 80% refund.



Why are they not refunding you?

It is no secret they are scammers and it is no secret they are having major cash-flow problems because their reserves are drying up.

Maybe they are on their final act before they exit scam and run off?
Maybe this and maybe that. Maybe the Earth is flat, and maybe fairies actually exist. How about some actual f**king evidence for a change? I've had it with these Trolls and their 'maybes'

There are no maybes here. What proof do you want? Do you want to see my Email convo with MinexSystems and that they politely told me to go fuck myself and my refund? Or do you want to see a complaint I sent through European ODR platform, that Chain2Pay still hasnt anwsered to? They still havent refunded me after I requested it 2 MONTHS ago. I have done everything I can to get my money back for a paid product, that never arrived after ORDERING AND PAYING FOR IT 5 MONTHS AGO. I didnt pay for a blank MASTERCARD. I paid for a branded VISA one, that was delayed many times. Am I wrong here to ask a refund for a product they dont ship? You shills are just unbelievable.
Team will refund that few MNX to you when they will have a time. Now they need to finish process with cards delivery to customers.

Are you a representative of MinexSystems? Do you work for them? If not then dont talk to me like you represent them. You are just pissing me off more.
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December 23, 2018, 04:20:15 AM
Racquemis1 has been added back to my IGNORE list because of nonsense propaganda he continues to post alongside TeMHuK and paid scammer trolls such as Jedgar and yurez83.

These fools want investors to believe Minexpay branded cards will be issued "soon"

They are a pathetic group of scammers  Roll Eyes

 Grin Grin Grin Grin cards already sent to customers but this idiot still here and trying to prove something.

I don´t see any announcements about shipping cards. If they are shipping where the fuck is my refund?

I thought you wrote before they promised to refund 80% to all those that wanted a refund.

What happened in your case?

Nothing happened. Still waiting for my 80% refund.



Why are they not refunding you?

It is no secret they are scammers and it is no secret they are having major cash-flow problems because their reserves are drying up.

Maybe they are on their final act before they exit scam and run off?
Maybe this and maybe that. Maybe the Earth is flat, and maybe fairies actually exist. How about some actual f**king evidence for a change? I've had it with these Trolls and their 'maybes'

There are no maybes here. What proof do you want? Do you want to see my Email convo with MinexSystems and that they politely told me to go fuck myself and my refund? Or do you want to see a complaint I sent through European ODR platform, that Chain2Pay still hasnt anwsered to? They still havent refunded me after I requested it 2 MONTHS ago. I have done everything I can to get my money back for a paid product, that never arrived after ORDERING AND PAYING FOR IT 5 MONTHS AGO. I didnt pay for a blank MASTERCARD. I paid for a branded VISA one, that was delayed many times. Am I wrong here to ask a refund for a product they dont ship? You shills are just unbelievable.
Team will refund that few MNX to you when they will have a time. Now they need to finish process with cards delivery to customers.
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