However, many children who are given freedom actually become uncontrolled when using cellphones. I think the role of parents is needed to give firmness to children so that they don't go beyond the limits. I have a younger brother and happen to already have a personal cellphone, but as time goes by I see my little brother is increasingly out of control and if that continues to happen and parents allow this, it is not impossible that he will access inappropriate things including online gambling, indeed gambling at an early age is very impossible for them to do because they know that the expenses for gambling are not a little but it is not impossible that one day when they have money they will try it.
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There must be parental supervision so that their children can be controlled in using their phones and so that they do not exceed limits that can make their lives difficult. We have seen the impact on young people who do not use their phones properly, where they instead use them to play games. It just wastes their time when they could use their time to study or for other things. The absence or lack of parental supervision can make their children access inappropriate things and if they visit casino sites accidentally, they can start gambling without their parents knowing. And when the parents find out, it may be too late because the child is already addicted to gambling.
Blocking apps or selected pages on children gadgets is not a solution. In fact that is an interference in their private life. A lot of parents dont understand, that their kids is not their slaves, property or they owe them something. Kids have right for private life also. The proper solution would be educate kids that at their young gambling is not the best way to spend time, to tell them consequences of gambling addiction, how unfair and cruel world is.
If you ban apps or pages - with time a kid will find a way to bypass it. Trust me. But, he will use that against you. He will find a way to hide things. And that is the worst thing a kid could do. That will mean that you have lost trust. That is the worst thing, as this is the beginning of loosing connection with your kid.
The more you block ban or restrict something, the more kid will want to get it or access it. Imho proper solution is to talk that gambling thing in such a way, that they kid will personally came to a conclusion that he is to young for that or it is to early to gamble right now.
For me blocking/banning is like cutting off finger when you have a broken nail, instead of trying to fix it. Like ancient doctors, who would better cut the limb instead of curing it
So you think leaving the keys for the car in reach of a kid or alcohol in reach of a kid is ok because everything is a question of education? No, prevention in regards to kids also involves clearly defined boundaries and to enforce prohibitions. There are things that kids just should not be allowed to do, period. Education comes on top, but as it is the same with the hot stovetop, the problem is that kids often can't know the consequences of their actions until they feel them or are old enough to draw their own conclusions that touching the stovetop isn't smart. Prohibition during some stages of development of a kid is not primarily an interference with their private life during early years, but protection of their child life from things they can't know nor understand.
Bad example, but yes, that is ok.
Regards alcohol bottle - I have some whiskey and wine bottle on display at the kitchen. My kid never tried to reach it. Because we told him that it is for adults, it is bitter and taste bad. With armanda90 (the one I've quoted) vision of banning apps and have full control, would be setting cameras and as soon as my kid tries to grab battle, smash his hand and punish him. Regards key in the car - I have told my kid consequences of car accidents, told about driving licence, police and jail. The keys are in free access at the door. The kid could take them and start the car. The kid knows and can push brake pedal and turn selector to D. Never seen my kid trying to taste alcohol or starting my car. Was it because I ban it?
You know what, I just came to conclusion that I allow my kid to do whatever he wants. But before that, I have told him hundred times to think before doing something. And we discussed a lot about consequences after deeds. That is all because I or we talk to each other a lot in family. That is why we barely have secrets from each other. That is why we respect privacy and give free time and space to each other.
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Yes, most gamblers have the wrong mindset regarding gambling and the probability of winning big. I would even say that such gamblers are dreamers. No, I'm not saying that you can not dream of big winnings, but in my opinion to make the goal of life does not make sense, because in gambling too much depends on chance. I understand when a person sets himself such goals as to earn money for a new house, buy a car, have children, but I do not imagine such a goal as to change life through a big win in the casino. Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I sincerely don't understand it.
Yes I agree to this, there is no other way to reduce the amount of loss or to avoid addiction other than self-control, I hope most of them (gamblers) already know about what they should do there. Always gamble with a budget limit and a healthy mindset of not overdoing it, that's it and you'll be safe. Because as we know the temptation in gambling is very extraordinary, only a few are able to pass it and most of them will be trapped there. What I'm afraid of is that for young children, there must be strict rules from both parents, especially in this era where gambling is very common, so this is a big task for every parent.
That's right. It really boils down to discipline. Everytime gambling is involved, you should know that automatically, one way or another, you'll encounter it because you should practice it in the first place. There's no other option indeed to reduce losses but to be responsible of your betting routine. If you continue to overspend and to overtime in gambling, you'll reap it in the future. You can be addicted by going beyond what it's recommended and that could ruin your life in an instant. So always gamble responsibly and improve your mindset to only take calculated risks.
Well the point is the mindset if in my opinion that must be corrected, you must really be able to consider that gambling is just a place to have fun to fill spare time, don't go beyond that if you don't want to end up tragically like other people who now regret it. Change your mindset and use the minimum budget that is clear that you will not mind if the money is finally lost, that's all. It's simple but it's hard to do.
That's why the role of parents is very important here, there are many children around me who already use cellphones but I don't know whether they are using cellphones well or not because when I observe them it seems like their parents have given them free rein. What I'm afraid of here is that if children are not restricted when playing on cellphones, it's not impossible that they will access things that are inappropriate for their age, there are also many around me (adults) who gamble openly, and what I'm afraid of that It is bad for them (children) to follow a path that is not appropriate for them.
However, many children who are given freedom actually become uncontrolled when using cellphones. I think the role of parents is needed to give firmness to children so that they don't go beyond the limits. I have a younger brother and happen to already have a personal cellphone, but as time goes by I see my little brother is increasingly out of control and if that continues to happen and parents allow this, it is not impossible that he will access inappropriate things including online gambling, indeed gambling at an early age is very impossible for them to do because they know that the expenses for gambling are not a little but it is not impossible that one day when they have money they will try it.
The coming of computer devices has made access to gambling very easy for kids who should ordinarily be kept away from the knowledge of gambling/casinos.
I think there is a relationship between the extent to which the state is engaged in the education of teenagers and the minimum age for gambling. The higher the control over the hobbies of teenagers, the better it is for them to be conscious and able to control themselves. Usually in such countries there is a large percentage of atheists, and I think that's why such people are more aware of the chances of winning. I think these countries include the most developed countries in Europe and Asia. But if the state is not particularly involved in the development of children, then in such countries there will be more cases of illegal gambling and corresponding troubles for teenagers.
But I think it all comes back to each individual as I mean a country with a good approach to teenagers and prohibits all gambling activities and it is very clear that teenagers in that country should have control and be afraid to gamble because it will violate the law.
But in fact there are still many teenagers in this country who are addicted to gambling and this is increasing every year and in my opinion this is not only about the state's approach towards teenagers but also because currently many people consider gambling as a place to earn income or a place to double their money.
So the state efforts to prohibit gambling or anything else will still be violated because teenagers and minors can still access gambling online.
That's why the role of parents is very important here, there are many children around me who already use cellphones but I don't know whether they are using cellphones well or not because when I observe them it seems like their parents have given them free rein. What I'm afraid of here is that if children are not restricted when playing on cellphones, it's not impossible that they will access things that are inappropriate for their age, there are also many around me (adults) who gamble openly, and what I'm afraid of that It is bad for them (children) to follow a path that is not appropriate for them.
However, many children who are given freedom actually become uncontrolled when using cellphones. I think the role of parents is needed to give firmness to children so that they don't go beyond the limits. I have a younger brother and happen to already have a personal cellphone, but as time goes by I see my little brother is increasingly out of control and if that continues to happen and parents allow this, it is not impossible that he will access inappropriate things including online gambling, indeed gambling at an early age is very impossible for them to do because they know that the expenses for gambling are not a little but it is not impossible that one day when they have money they will try it.
Another ideas how effective controlling our children not try with gambling limited their money in daily day, don't give them too much and enough use for depositing fund in gambling account.
Unlike in some cultures in other countries, moms stayed at home to teach their children good manners and conduct, not working all day just to pay the bills and let their children do what they want as long as they stay at home. only a few children will be alright with that because they somehow managed to adapt to the current situations and not fall into some bad habits or addictions. But for others, this is some kind of chance to do whatever they want and some of them fell into porn addictions, and others as we said, became gambling addicts at an early age.
I think addiction at an early age can still be overcome. Gambling addiction at an early age will not be the same as when they are adults and have an income. those who are still young tend to just join in. and they also play with limited money. Indeed, this can also have negative impacts on society. but it all also depends on the relationship.
Those who are still minors, when they enter the adult world, will experience extraordinary changes in their mindset. like switching from busy playing to busy working. This can cut off communication with bad relationships. I mean not pushed by the people around him. Once they are adults they will be more responsible for determining the actions they will take. such as continuing to gamble or leaving it.
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Yes I agree to this, there is no other way to reduce the amount of loss or to avoid addiction other than self-control, I hope most of them (gamblers) already know about what they should do there. Always gamble with a budget limit and a healthy mindset of not overdoing it, that's it and you'll be safe. Because as we know the temptation in gambling is very extraordinary, only a few are able to pass it and most of them will be trapped there. What I'm afraid of is that for young children, there must be strict rules from both parents, especially in this era where gambling is very common, so this is a big task for every parent.
That's right. It really boils down to discipline. Everytime gambling is involved, you should know that automatically, one way or another, you'll encounter it because you should practice it in the first place. There's no other option indeed to reduce losses but to be responsible of your betting routine. If you continue to overspend and to overtime in gambling, you'll reap it in the future. You can be addicted by going beyond what it's recommended and that could ruin your life in an instant. So always gamble responsibly and improve your mindset to only take calculated risks.
And the above is more reason why gambling is very dangerous for underaged, this is because, underaged are people that are too young to work and fend for themselves, normally, all their money needs are always on their parents, but when they are allowed into gambling and they taste what it feels like to win and their own money, and not have to ask their parent for money, they likely will not stop gambling again, but will continue and since they at such tender age don't know anything or much about self control and responsible gambling, they fall in and become addicted.
Another ideas how effective controlling our children not try with gambling limited their money in daily day, don't give them too much and enough use for depositing fund in gambling account.
Unlike in some cultures in other countries, moms stayed at home to teach their children good manners and conduct, not working all day just to pay the bills and let their children do what they want as long as they stay at home. only a few children will be alright with that because they somehow managed to adapt to the current situations and not fall into some bad habits or addictions. But for others, this is some kind of chance to do whatever they want and some of them fell into porn addictions, and others as we said, became gambling addicts at an early age.
Yes I agree to this, there is no other way to reduce the amount of loss or to avoid addiction other than self-control, I hope most of them (gamblers) already know about what they should do there. Always gamble with a budget limit and a healthy mindset of not overdoing it, that's it and you'll be safe. Because as we know the temptation in gambling is very extraordinary, only a few are able to pass it and most of them will be trapped there. What I'm afraid of is that for young children, there must be strict rules from both parents, especially in this era where gambling is very common, so this is a big task for every parent.
That's right. It really boils down to discipline. Everytime gambling is involved, you should know that automatically, one way or another, you'll encounter it because you should practice it in the first place. There's no other option indeed to reduce losses but to be responsible of your betting routine. If you continue to overspend and to overtime in gambling, you'll reap it in the future. You can be addicted by going beyond what it's recommended and that could ruin your life in an instant. So always gamble responsibly and improve your mindset to only take calculated risks.
Blocking apps or selected pages on children gadgets is not a solution. In fact that is an interference in their private life. A lot of parents dont understand, that their kids is not their slaves, property or they owe them something. Kids have right for private life also. The proper solution would be educate kids that at their young gambling is not the best way to spend time, to tell them consequences of gambling addiction, how unfair and cruel world is.
If you ban apps or pages - with time a kid will find a way to bypass it. Trust me. But, he will use that against you. He will find a way to hide things. And that is the worst thing a kid could do. That will mean that you have lost trust. That is the worst thing, as this is the beginning of loosing connection with your kid.
The more you block ban or restrict something, the more kid will want to get it or access it. Imho proper solution is to talk that gambling thing in such a way, that they kid will personally came to a conclusion that he is to young for that or it is to early to gamble right now.
For me blocking/banning is like cutting off finger when you have a broken nail, instead of trying to fix it. Like ancient doctors, who would better cut the limb instead of curing it
So you think leaving the keys for the car in reach of a kid or alcohol in reach of a kid is ok because everything is a question of education? No, prevention in regards to kids also involves clearly defined boundaries and to enforce prohibitions. There are things that kids just should not be allowed to do, period. Education comes on top, but as it is the same with the hot stovetop, the problem is that kids often can't know the consequences of their actions until they feel them or are old enough to draw their own conclusions that touching the stovetop isn't smart. Prohibition during some stages of development of a kid is not primarily an interference with their private life during early years, but protection of their child life from things they can't know nor understand.
Countries that allow 18 years of age need to change their regulations by raising the age limit for someone to gamble to 21 years of age because they are truly adults, even though in reality, 21 years of age does not guarantee that someone can act wisely. Many people over 21 are trapped in gambling, so they cannot get out easily. But it depends on the policies of each government because countries that allow an 18 year limit may be really adults, so the government makes regulations like that.
In my opinion, if gambling is not at all beneficial to the government then it is better to close it down, remove all physical or online gambling networks, because I think that even by changing their rules and increasing the minimum age for gambling to 21 years or whatever it is still a big risk will always be there, so this is not the completely best solution to eradicate gambling, but to reduce it it might be useful, because yes I quite agree with those who are allowed to gamble at an older age there they will at least have a more mature mind and be able to distinguish the best from the worst or maybe reduce their gambling. But I don't think everything will always go according to plan, as you said even with the age of 21 it doesn't mean they can avoid everything there, after all even those who are older are still many who can't control themselves at all when gambling, so I think the best solution if the country really doesn't want its people to experience a lot of problems, especially in finance, then close all access to gambling there, I think that's it. But it is true that when gambling, they need self-control to manage money and not be wasteful. And they should learn to be responsible gamblers so they don't exceed their limits and don't become addicted to gambling. However, with the convenience of online casinos, minors can enter and gamble freely. Each parent must pay attention to this when supervising their children.
Yes I agree to this, there is no other way to reduce the amount of loss or to avoid addiction other than self-control, I hope most of them (gamblers) already know about what they should do there. Always gamble with a budget limit and a healthy mindset of not overdoing it, that's it and you'll be safe. Because as we know the temptation in gambling is very extraordinary, only a few are able to pass it and most of them will be trapped there. What I'm afraid of is that for young children, there must be strict rules from both parents, especially in this era where gambling is very common, so this is a big task for every parent. 
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You are right, as far as I am concerned it could be that anyone who is over 18 years old is considered an adult, however when we make a sketch, there are countries where a person is over 21 years old and it seems to me that it is not bad, it is Well, then the older the person is, the easier it is for them to do something to control themselves in a casino, but basically I don't know if it's standard, but in any case, people who are older are considered to be 18 years old. .Teenagers who get false IDs and who can make false documents, well, that's another thing, it's known that it's a serious offense, I don't know if that's something for which a caisn can be called sane, so at the moment If you make a very large withdrawal, casinos usually ask for additional identification, because basically things can go up in rank when there is more money, so the additional KYC can be a video, one more document for the withdrawal to be successful, something like what Binance does, that for security reasons things can be done like quick 30-second videos, something like that.
In some countries where gambling is legal, casinos can be admitted at the age of 18, basically I can say that things are good when a person knows they are mature, in the country it is required that they be of legal age for the simple fact They have to be consistent with what they have , with what they do and Above all when it comes to knowing well what they can do or how to behave in a casino, and above all be responsible for their actions.
In this order of ideas, many people can say that things with casinos are about austerity , expense management, many things like that, but more things cannot be done because that is what we as people can determine when we can be responsible for a In particular, a minor cannot be allowed to enter or interact because the law protects them, and would punish the casinos , that's basically it.
Getting a fake ID is difficult, especially in a very strict country because the government monitors everything. Still, there are always ways to make fake IDs, especially if there are officials who can help. It is not surprising that some already have IDs even though they have not been able to get them, and instead, they are used for things that may be illegal in their country. They may need to get guidance from the government so they don't repeat their actions, especially if they use their identity to register at a casino. That will put them in big trouble because they can develop a gambling addiction, which will negatively impact their life.
But it is true that when gambling, they need self-control to manage money and not be wasteful. And they should learn to be responsible gamblers so they don't exceed their limits and don't become addicted to gambling. However, with the convenience of online casinos, minors can enter and gamble freely. Each parent must pay attention to this when supervising their children.
Yes, it's right that parents work so hard every day that they have no time to keep an eye on what their kids do but another problem is that they rarely have any idea about the functionalities of smartphones and computers while kids are good at it or at least everyone has a friend or friend's friend that is good at it. First of all, it's a headache and almost impossible thing for parents to find a way to block access to certain websites, then some of the manage to download and pay for softwares or pay to their ISP to block certain websites but then as I said above, kid will contact smart friend and will unlock that access or there is another deal, this kid goes with friend kid whose parents aren't restrictive or responsible and they still get what they want.
The third problem is that it's kinda cool among kids to gamble and do prohibited things. Even if parent tells and explains kids what's good and what's bad, there is a social pressure from kids friends to do what's bad. In order to not get laughed or socially isolated, they do it.
During all parent have not time with their children after spending 12 hours for working they need to check their children mobile phone application until computer history to see are there their children have know with gambling? I think good ideas with smart parent if less time for controlling their children block all gambling platform access for their mobile phone or computer children and not allowed for them will play in gambling platform. But its not easy way because many trick and guide in Youtube channel for children learn more how to unlock with some site are blocking due using VPN or unlock IP address. The third problem is that it's kinda cool among kids to gamble and do prohibited things. Even if parent tells and explains kids what's good and what's bad, there is a social pressure from kids friends to do what's bad. In order to not get laughed or socially isolated, they do it.
Another ideas how effective controlling our children not try with gambling limited their money in daily day, don't give them too much and enough use for depositing fund in gambling account.
Blocking apps or selected pages on children gadgets is not a solution. In fact that is an interference in their private life. A lot of parents dont understand, that their kids is not their slaves, property or they owe them something. Kids have right for private life also. The proper solution would be educate kids that at their young gambling is not the best way to spend time, to tell them consequences of gambling addiction, how unfair and cruel world is.
If you ban apps or pages - with time a kid will find a way to bypass it. Trust me. But, he will use that against you. He will find a way to hide things. And that is the worst thing a kid could do. That will mean that you have lost trust. That is the worst thing, as this is the beginning of loosing connection with your kid.
The more you block ban or restrict something, the more kid will want to get it or access it. Imho proper solution is to talk that gambling thing in such a way, that they kid will personally came to a conclusion that he is to young for that or it is to early to gamble right now.
For me blocking/banning is like cutting off finger when you have a broken nail, instead of trying to fix it. Like ancient doctors, who would better cut the limb instead of curing it
Yes, it's right that parents work so hard every day that they have no time to keep an eye on what their kids do but another problem is that they rarely have any idea about the functionalities of smartphones and computers while kids are good at it or at least everyone has a friend or friend's friend that is good at it. First of all, it's a headache and almost impossible thing for parents to find a way to block access to certain websites, then some of the manage to download and pay for softwares or pay to their ISP to block certain websites but then as I said above, kid will contact smart friend and will unlock that access or there is another deal, this kid goes with friend kid whose parents aren't restrictive or responsible and they still get what they want.
The third problem is that it's kinda cool among kids to gamble and do prohibited things. Even if parent tells and explains kids what's good and what's bad, there is a social pressure from kids friends to do what's bad. In order to not get laughed or socially isolated, they do it.
During all parent have not time with their children after spending 12 hours for working they need to check their children mobile phone application until computer history to see are there their children have know with gambling? I think good ideas with smart parent if less time for controlling their children block all gambling platform access for their mobile phone or computer children and not allowed for them will play in gambling platform. But its not easy way because many trick and guide in Youtube channel for children learn more how to unlock with some site are blocking due using VPN or unlock IP address. The third problem is that it's kinda cool among kids to gamble and do prohibited things. Even if parent tells and explains kids what's good and what's bad, there is a social pressure from kids friends to do what's bad. In order to not get laughed or socially isolated, they do it.
Another ideas how effective controlling our children not try with gambling limited their money in daily day, don't give them too much and enough use for depositing fund in gambling account.
This is without a doubt a problem, due to how expensive life is becoming now both parents work and they do not have the time to give their full attention to their children, so the easy way out is to give them a smartphone and buy them video games in order for those devices to become their default nannies, however this is dangerous as even if filters were applied to those devices, children are incredibly smart and they could get around them and find all kind of information for which they are not ready.
The problem is that children will still communicate with peers and not everyone will have such filters installed, so children will have access to prohibited content, and you are right, if they want, they will be able to find a way out of any situation. In this case, it is important to talk to children about what is good and what is bad, so that they understand the difference and it is also important to tell them that gambling is for adults and they can try it if they want when they reach adulthood.
The third problem is that it's kinda cool among kids to gamble and do prohibited things. Even if parent tells and explains kids what's good and what's bad, there is a social pressure from kids friends to do what's bad. In order to not get laughed or socially isolated, they do it.
I think there is a relationship between the extent to which the state is engaged in the education of teenagers and the minimum age for gambling. The higher the control over the hobbies of teenagers, the better it is for them to be conscious and able to control themselves. Usually in such countries there is a large percentage of atheists, and I think that's why such people are more aware of the chances of winning. I think these countries include the most developed countries in Europe and Asia. But if the state is not particularly involved in the development of children, then in such countries there will be more cases of illegal gambling and corresponding troubles for teenagers.
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I think that we should not get carried away by these KYC things, because those are the excuses that the casinos and the different entities come up with to control, they also say that the KYC is the best for when there is no problem, that it is easier to determine and recover if there is a hack, I say that this is simple excuses, first if children who are 12-14 years old, if they enter a casino that has or requires a KYC, it is the total responsibility of their parents who have to be supervising them, It is not a problem of the casino, nor because the casino does not have KYC, that is only the worst thing they can tell us, there are many stories that they invent, also if a hack occurs, if they have a KYC they will steal the data plus the money of the players, it is a lie that they are going to return your money, unless it is a casino like stake.com that has a great capacity to respond to any problem like this, otherwise, to look for the money and resonmder would be done through the ID of the player and that's it, plus if something like this happens it is the responsibility of ciasno to respond for all the money of the players where something is stolen from them, so you don't have to get carried away by what they say, that's like the myths, with those things it's that the dominance of the big guys begins, KYC will never be good, privacy, anonymity, everything ends.In another aspect, it could be said that those who are Pro KYC will always say things like this, there is nothing else they can do, in this order of ideas we can think that some things like these are what they always say so that people comply obligatorily and They tell you that in some way they are protected and no, it is not like that, what I recommend is that if you have a favorite casino, then they must comply with the KYC requirement so that you can play calmly and make a good withdrawal, I am not of those who leave KYC in each casino, I am one of those who leave KYC in the casinos that I consider are worth doing and that can always be fulfilled so that they do the best.
You are right, as far as I am concerned it could be that anyone who is over 18 years old is considered an adult, however when we make a sketch, there are countries where a person is over 21 years old and it seems to me that it is not bad, it is Well, then the older the person is, the easier it is for them to do something to control themselves in a casino, but basically I don't know if it's standard, but in any case, people who are older are considered to be 18 years old. .
Teenagers who get false IDs and who can make false documents, well, that's another thing, it's known that it's a serious offense, I don't know if that's something for which a caisn can be called sane, so at the moment If you make a very large withdrawal, casinos usually ask for additional identification, because basically things can go up in rank when there is more money, so the additional KYC can be a video, one more document for the withdrawal to be successful, something like what Binance does, that for security reasons things can be done like quick 30-second videos, something like that.
In some countries where gambling is legal, casinos can be admitted at the age of 18, basically I can say that things are good when a person knows they are mature, in the country it is required that they be of legal age for the simple fact They have to be consistent with what they have , with what they do and Above all when it comes to knowing well what they can do or how to behave in a casino, and above all be responsible for their actions.
In this order of ideas, many people can say that things with casinos are about austerity , expense management, many things like that, but more things cannot be done because that is what we as people can determine when we can be responsible for a In particular, a minor cannot be allowed to enter or interact because the law protects them, and would punish the casinos , that's basically it.
In physical establishments, they would usually check identification for someone who looks under the legally allowed age to gamble. In internet establishments, I think things are a little more difficult to detect...though, should we? If we condoned the checking of age on online establishments, this could mean KYC by default for all, and would be an absolutely terrible hit for privacy in the industry. It is tricky as we do not want youngsters to get hooked by gambling establishments early...on the other side of the coin, if they want to and if it means they learn the effects of gambling early, maybe it's not a bad thing in the long term. It really just depends if the underage player becomes permanently addicted or learns constructive lessons from the experience.
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