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Topic: Mining Ethereum and getting 10% stale shares?! Wth! - page 2. (Read 3242 times)

sr. member
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The same situation I have too. I don't trust statistics which is displayed on the pool. I switched to another pool. All the same. The other figures but the income is the same. Let's hope that this is temporary. In any case, I do not see a better option. After hacking and the introduction of new rules I'm not going back to nicehash.
newbie
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You get more shares with Ethermine because they use a lower share difficulty. Lower difficulty =  more shares worth less each e.g. 100 shares at diff 4000MH are worth exactly the same percentage of a block as 40 shares at diff 10000MH. Using lower share difficulty for higher hash rates is inefficient because you are getting work and submitting shares more often, increasing the load on the pools stratum which can lead to stale shares.

Based on the fixed 4000MH difficulty Ethermine uses, your miner should be getting 60% more shares on Ethermine to be equal to the amount of shares at a fixed 10000MH diff for Nanopool.

nanopool diff is 5000MH not 10000MH, anyway I see better payout on ethermine.
hero member
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You get more shares with Ethermine because they use a lower share difficulty. Lower difficulty =  more shares worth less each e.g. 100 shares at diff 4000MH are worth exactly the same percentage of a block as 40 shares at diff 10000MH. Using lower share difficulty for higher hash rates is inefficient because you are getting work and submitting shares more often, increasing the load on the pools stratum which can lead to stale shares.

Based on the fixed 4000MH difficulty Ethermine uses, your miner should be getting 60% more shares on Ethermine to be equal to the amount of shares at a fixed 10000MH diff for Nanopool.
newbie
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i have change from ethermine to nanopool to check if i can have a better hashrate. i know nanopool just dont show the stales shares but i read somewhere else that they changed the diff so less shares but bigger so maybe less stales. i will see in a couple of days

I switched from nanopool to ethermine. even if I receive approx. 5% of stale shares, I get better payout and number of shares increased 20%, comparing to nanopool.
full member
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switching pools not that easy unless you have alot of hashpower due to the .05 minimum. I guess when I finally get to the .05, I'll switch and try dwarfpool. On Ethermine my hashrate is 55mh, and my calculated is 45mh, thats 20% loss......not an acceptable amount.
full member
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It is a problem that the pools need to address.

I was on nanopool, had 2 cards hashing Eth and with about 55 mh I was getting miner down notifications constantly even though they were hashing fine. No shares were being found. I decided to switch from nanopool to ethermine and now I'm finding shares but my 1070 is logging 10% stale shares about 60% of the time....strange the 1060 has not logged any stale shares.
member
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Other pools also have the same issue, they just don't report stale shares. It is totally normal for ethereum to have a small number of stale shares - they are being rewarded as well anyway.
POM
sr. member
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had the same problem. I switched to another (smaller) pool and there everything is fine. 100% efficiency.
Which pool did you jump from?
full member
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Merit: 100
had the same problem. I switched to another (smaller) pool and there everything is fine. 100% efficiency.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Any fix for this issue?
legendary
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After Byzantium update block times are shorter now. If your gfx card is computing a share from a block which was already found, its a stale share. Stale shares are a bit higher for everyone now but mine are still  around %3 on ethermine. If you have low hashing power i suggest you mining on a less crowded pool.



I think this is indeed the issue as I mine on ethermine and only have a few % total stales, but I have a fair amount of miners pointed there. If I look at an individual miner's stats they can range anywhere from 0% stales up to 8%, but the average of all my miners is only 3%.

So while the shorter block times are causing more stales in general, I think it is just more noticeable for smaller hashrate users than it is for larger miners. It's probably just normal variance and you don't notice it when the stale rates are lower, but when you see a 8 or 10% in the stales column you think suddenly something is wrong. Check back in a few hours and I suspect it will have dropped again.
full member
Activity: 434
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Guys try editing your batch file to include "-ethi 7"

(default is 8 ).

Report back on whether the share have gone down.
Ive noticed a 2-3% drop in stale shares.

member
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I don't know why too but I'm in the same "problem"

Above correctly, we recommended changing the pool to a Dwarfpool. I myself have long since left the Ethermine.
And what does the miner say about the slates? In HWinfo there are no memory errors?

I don't have any memory errors, I'll try Dwarfpool
full member
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Everyone is experiencing this due to lower block times.  Have to wait for Pools to fix it or we just deal with it.
sr. member
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I don't know why too but I'm in the same "problem"

Above correctly, we recommended changing the pool to a Dwarfpool. I myself have long since left the Ethermine.
And what does the miner say about the slates? In HWinfo there are no memory errors?
member
Activity: 97
Merit: 10
I don't know why too but I'm in the same "problem"
member
Activity: 228
Merit: 10
I'm not sure, but try to change the poole and also reduce the overclocking from memory. May be it is can help you.
newbie
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Alguien sabe alguna pagina para minar sin necesidad de invertir ? :/ Roll Eyes
member
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Merit: 10
Same here too.
I use Claymore on ethermine.
It's bugging me out.
What to do?
newbie
Activity: 81
Merit: 0
I have them too after the fork.
Don't know the reason yet but it is 7-10% since
I am also on ethermine.
Can anyone confirm who is using a different pool is facing the same?
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