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ThePhwner

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Quote from: Securi-d on September 01, 2014, 06:46:05 PM

Hi,
I noticed that the contact form on the web page seems to be broke.

Thanks
Dave
P.S. I need more posts to move above Sock-Puppet level... Wink

Sorry about this. You can email [email protected] or come to the #bitaffnet IRC channel, same as the Web chat link from the site. You can also send me a PM here.

Securi-d

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Hi,
I noticed that the contact form on the web page seems to be broke.

Thanks
Dave
P.S. I need more posts to move above Sock-Puppet level... Wink

DrHaribo

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Quote from: buy4crypto on September 01, 2014, 07:11:31 AM

Thanks for the input. Can you say for sure what is to blame? Do you have any likely scenarios? Or should people just focus on this pool operator?

I don't think the focus should be on blaming anyone at all. I think the focus should be on finding the problem and fixing it. I think the best way forward is to let the pool op figure it out. That's probably the only person(s) who can.

Quote from: buy4crypto on September 01, 2014, 07:11:31 AM

Go fix your own pools and stop blaming this one

I do fix my own pool when bugs are found. I've been running Bitminter for over 3 years, written all the software myself, including a mining client. Of course there have been bugs. Of course this pool will also have bugs. Finding and fixing them is a good thing.

Quote from: buy4crypto on September 01, 2014, 07:11:31 AM

Likely its your own problem from your own doing of shotty coding.

This is why I posted. People are saying that while Multipool mined here all users were paid less for their work. That's not possible in a PPS pool without the pool having an issue. Anyone who don't believe me, now is a good time to read up on what PPS means.

There will be some bugs along the way. That goes for all pools. It's not necessarily "shotty coding" as you call it. All code has bugs.

Jorsher

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I'm not knowledgeable enough on the whole process to point fingers or suggest problems with either pool...

But what I can say is that I've split my miners between two pools for months without issue, and my balances on the two pools stays more or less the same -- as it should from what I understand. The time MP was going through this pool, my balance there fell behind enough that I was curious what happened.

MoreBloodWine

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Quote from: flound1129 on September 01, 2014, 02:53:02 PM

Quote from: MoreBloodWine on September 01, 2014, 02:44:46 PM

I say screw it and just publicly discuss it because we already know s0br will make up for whatever he can if something turns out to be his fault. If it turns out to actually be MP's fault then we will know that too and then get watch him try to save face.

I've said it before and I still stand by it. Sure the pool is far from perfect, but it is still rather new. That said there are bound to be issues. So can we all just try to play nice, myself included, and try to fix whats wrong as a group or we can all continue our childish ways.

On any new pool there are obviously bound to be issues. Which is why the attempt to blame third parties for the issues confuses me. Full disclosure is the best policy and inspires the most confidence in the pool operator(s).

Well I know I've directed a few things at you to which I have no valid excuse so I wont even try lol. That being said. if we can actually just try to work together as a whole for a change I do think we can figure out just wtf went wrong.

flound1129

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Quote from: MoreBloodWine on September 01, 2014, 02:44:46 PM

I say screw it and just publicly discuss it because we already know s0br will make up for whatever he can if something turns out to be his fault. If it turns out to actually be MP's fault then we will know that too and then get watch him try to save face.

I've said it before and I still stand by it. Sure the pool is far from perfect, but it is still rather new. That said there are bound to be issues. So can we all just try to play nice, myself included, and try to fix whats wrong as a group or we can all continue our childish ways.

On any new pool there are obviously bound to be issues. Which is why the attempt to blame third parties for the issues confuses me. Full disclosure is the best policy and inspires the most confidence in the pool operator(s).

aurel57

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Quote from: MoreBloodWine on September 01, 2014, 02:44:46 PM

I say screw it and just publicly discuss it because we already know s0br will make up for whatever he can if something turns out to be his fault. If it turns out to actually be MP's fault then we will know that too and then get watch him try to save face.

I've said it before and I still stand by it. Sure the pool is far from perfect, but it is still rather new. That said there are bound to be issues. So can we all just try to play nice, myself included, and try to fix whats wrong as a group or we can all continue our childish ways.

Agree

MoreBloodWine

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I say screw it and just publicly discuss it because we already know s0br will make up for whatever he can if something turns out to be his fault. If it turns out to actually be MP's fault then we will know that too and then get watch him try to save face.

I've said it before and I still stand by it. Sure the pool is far from perfect, but it is still rather new. That said there are bound to be issues. So can we all just try to play nice, myself included, and try to fix whats wrong as a group or we can all continue our childish ways.

flound1129

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Quote from: ThePhwner on September 01, 2014, 01:59:58 PM

So your answer is "shut up and pay me?" Given that Doc has said there were no issues when you mined there, I'd like to look at the bigger picture and see if we can determine what went wrong. Right now my position is that something is off and needs to be investigated. Could be that you're owed 2.4 BTC, could be that there was an issue on your side. I still think an objective analysis is the best approach.

Right now this is the best I can offer, and I'd like to think it's a bit better than random accusations.

But "eff you pay me" is certainly your call, I just can't do much with it.

I didn't say 'shut up'. Quite the opposite. What I said was, I'm not interested in behind closed doors conversations. This issue involves all of your miners, not just Multipool. If you have evidence that my share count is incorrect, then please present it. Get the share totals out of your database and post them.

If you've lost the shares, then as an act of good faith you should pay what's owed as I've calculated it. Remember I am only asking for 100% PPS, I am not even asking for the advertised 12.5% bonus. If the bonus is included BAN actually owes us over 4 BTC.

megahash

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You should pay miners what you owe them & send the S3's you promised. Simple as that. No more skirting around the issues.......

@ ...Really? - I'll PM you - thanks

ThePhwner

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Quote from: flound1129 on September 01, 2014, 01:56:24 PM

Quote from: ThePhwner on September 01, 2014, 01:44:54 PM

Would you want to do a smaller conversation with myself and DocHaribo to see if we can finally shed some light on this? He's openly said there were no issues when you mined there and that's a valid data point I'd like to follow up on.

I don't really see what there is to talk about. I've posted my share counts. If your share counts don't match mine, please go ahead and post them, and we can discuss it publicly.

Rather than engaging in this distraction, you should be posting about how you're going to make everyone whole who was shorted over the 2-3 day period where s0br was not online. That is what a responsible pool operator would do.

So your answer is "shut up and pay me?" Given that Doc has said there were no issues when you mined there, I'd like to look at the bigger picture and see if we can determine what went wrong. Right now my position is that something is off and needs to be investigated. Could be that you're owed 2.4 BTC, could be that there was an issue on your side. I still think an objective analysis is the best approach.

Right now this is the best I can offer, and I'd like to think it's a bit better than random accusations.

But "eff you pay me" is certainly your call, I just can't do much with it.

flound1129

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Quote from: ThePhwner on September 01, 2014, 01:44:54 PM

Would you want to do a smaller conversation with myself and DocHaribo to see if we can finally shed some light on this? He's openly said there were no issues when you mined there and that's a valid data point I'd like to follow up on.

I don't really see what there is to talk about. I've posted my share counts. If your share counts don't match mine, please go ahead and post them, and we can discuss it publicly.

Rather than engaging in this distraction, you should be posting about how you're going to make everyone whole who was shorted over the 2-3 day period where s0br was not online. That is what a responsible pool operator would do.

ThePhwner

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Quote from: cathoderay on September 01, 2014, 01:47:54 PM

Quote from: flound1129 on September 01, 2014, 01:34:45 PM

.... No admin from BAN has stepped forward to say they're incorrect, and that back payments are in the works. Instead we get only silence and finger pointing from new accounts.

Don't worry, I'll shut up and go away as soon as my miners receive the 2.4 BTC that we were shorted.

I hate to say this flound1129 - but don't hold your breath dude. There is zero chance of this pool paying back the 15% they've shorted every miner since day one, let alone the bonus they promised, or anything else.......

As for the S3's.......pie in the sky....... Cheesy

You'll get used to the sock puppets abuse while you wait, think of them as a form of entertainment Cheesy

I actually just offered to help flound try to dig into this...

And there's countless miners who can attest to the fact that backpay has always been doled out when owed. In fact s0br did do a 50% bonus day to compensate for some payout issues not long ago.

flound1129

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Quote from: Count_Frackula on September 01, 2014, 12:09:03 PM

When the coin values fluctuate, MultiPool can actually make more than mining a single coin. I see the point of not being worth it any more. As-is, it's just charging 1.5% to mine BTC all day, every day.

Not much action in the SHA-256 alt world these days. That said we do spend time on alts almost every day even if the bulk of the time is spent on BTC.

cathoderay

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Quote from: flound1129 on September 01, 2014, 01:34:45 PM

.... No admin from BAN has stepped forward to say they're incorrect, and that back payments are in the works. Instead we get only silence and finger pointing from new accounts.

Don't worry, I'll shut up and go away as soon as my miners receive the 2.4 BTC that we were shorted.

I hate to say this flound1129 - but don't hold your breath dude. There is zero chance of this pool paying back the 15% they've shorted every miner since day one, let alone the bonus they promised, or anything else.......

As for the S3's.......pie in the sky....... Cheesy

You'll get used to the sock puppets abuse while you wait, think of them as a form of entertainment Cheesy

ThePhwner

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Quote from: flound1129 on September 01, 2014, 01:34:45 PM

Quote from: buy4crypto on September 01, 2014, 07:11:31 AM

tldr' Go fix your own pools and stop blaming this one without having technical evidence this pool shorted you, or anyone else on purpose. Likely its your own problem from your own doing of shotty coding. If your pools are so beneficial to each other, allow the multipool into bitminter, and lets see your 2 pools work seamlessly, and profitably together. The rest will be history, people will worry about all the future 51% attacks from you 2, capable, well informed pool operators.

I've posted my share counts from my DB. No admin from BAN has stepped forward to say they're incorrect, and that back payments are in the works. Instead we get only silence and finger pointing from new accounts.

Don't worry, I'll shut up and go away as soon as my miners receive the 2.4 BTC that we were shorted.

Would you want to do a smaller conversation with myself and DocHaribo to see if we can finally shed some light on this? He's openly said there were no issues when you mined there and that's a valid data point I'd like to follow up on.

flound1129

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Quote from: buy4crypto on September 01, 2014, 07:11:31 AM

tldr' Go fix your own pools and stop blaming this one without having technical evidence this pool shorted you, or anyone else on purpose. Likely its your own problem from your own doing of shotty coding. If your pools are so beneficial to each other, allow the multipool into bitminter, and lets see your 2 pools work seamlessly, and profitably together. The rest will be history, people will worry about all the future 51% attacks from you 2, capable, well informed pool operators.

I've posted my share counts from my DB. No admin from BAN has stepped forward to say they're incorrect, and that back payments are in the works. Instead we get only silence and finger pointing from new accounts.

Don't worry, I'll shut up and go away as soon as my miners receive the 2.4 BTC that we were shorted.

MRBONG411

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Since there are so many people here with their own Bitcoin pool websites and there are so many here that have used rental sites I thought I would post this to see if anyone was interested.

I am kinda interested in trying to start a rental site but have no idea how to build a website.

I already registered a cool name I think that's kinda catchy for it and needed help making it happen.

www.sellyourhash.com

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/domain-name-for-sale-wwwsellyourhashcom-755545

iglasses

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Quote from: .....Really? on September 01, 2014, 03:14:16 AM

Thank you DrHaribo for confirming that flound1129 is correct, very much appreciated. Now then, this is a job for the devs to get their teeth into and fix - no more insulting little comments from sock puppets who think they know better.

Just need to find a dev..... Cheesy

EDIT: Anyone who is on the S3 win list & hasn't been contacted or not received anything - please drop me a PM. I'd like to go through a few things with you before going public. Thanks. Grin

Edit2: A pay per share system - with no share count..........that's a novelty Cheesy

Calls for people to stop the insulting by insulting the majority of the posters in the thread...lol
Why are you still even here? No one cares about anything you or the other IDs you are posting under have to say.

rokroka

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Quote from: Count_Frackula on September 01, 2014, 12:09:03 PM

Quote from: flound1129 on August 30, 2014, 05:22:39 PM

Quote from: rokroka on August 30, 2014, 05:15:26 PM

I mined there because i believed in you like i believe in s0br and you proved to be OTHER THAN A MINING POOL you are merely a proxy and why should i pay you for that? You mean to tell me you pass on all profit to your users? LIE!... You are using people to make you profit and paying them what you think they should have. As soon as i leave your Multipool all of a sudden I start making money and I'm donating over 2% explain that. You know exactly what im talking about why run a proxy and call it a pool, that in itself is misleading. Multipool.us = ProxyPool.usury

Yes we pass on all profits from our upstream pool to our users, minus the 1.5% fee. In our help page it states clearly that we proxy Bitcoin hash to an upstream pool. All other ~40 pools we host run on our own stratum instances.

And yes, our payouts from cex.io have been on the low side lately which was why I started looking for another pool to begin with, among other reasons. I'm sorry you had a bad experience. It doesn't mean I'm not entitled to earn a living.

Wow, I go away for a few days and missed a lot. I gotta have Flound's back on this one - mostly. I mined on MultiPool with my SHA-256 miners for a while, back when there were SHA-256 coins that occasionally had higher values than BTC. These days, all of the altcoins seem to be less valuable, which means it's not worth it to spend the extra 1.5%, so I moved to ghash.io.

When the coin values fluctuate, MultiPool can actually make more than mining a single coin. I see the point of not being worth it any more. As-is, it's just charging 1.5% to mine BTC all day, every day.

That was my exact position BTC-ports were mining BTC all day long and LTC-ports mined LTC all day long the other alts i was mining are still there because of balances too low to withdraw because of the lack of sufficient switching. MP was one of my first pools because i wanted profitability that i didn't get there, so I moved to coinmine.pw and started making bank trading alts on cryptsy and poloniex. Now thats a profit switching pool that works, no old school mining pimp proxy that hasnt been updated since it was made for me...
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