Topic: mining.BitcoinAffiliatenetwork.com-0% PPS + 1 Hour (or higher) Payout Interval - page 25. (Read 83349 times)

Wow, I go away for a few days and missed a lot.  I gotta have Flound's back on this one - mostly.  I mined on MultiPool with my SHA-256 miners for a while, back when there were SHA-256 coins that occasionally had higher values than BTC.  These days, all of the altcoins seem to be less valuable, which means it's not worth it to spend the extra 1.5%, so I moved to ghash.io. 

When the coin values fluctuate, MultiPool can actually make more than mining a single coin.  I see the point of not being worth it any more.  As-is, it's just charging 1.5% to mine BTC all day, every day.

Thanks for this information. Happy to gather actual factuals in the ongoing search to resolve flound's issue. Anything else you can share is appreciated, PM me if you wanna stay off the thread.

Also... how do we get stats and a UI like yours?

Thanks for the input. Can you say for sure what is to blame? Do you have any likely scenarios? Or should people just focus on this pool operator?

I have a question. Why is the multipool.us guy not mining with you all still? And what is your motivation for coming here and pinning blame squarely on this pool operator when you have no clue what happened?


Maybe both the bitminter, and multipool operators should take a look at this post.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8588903

@flouder How many Antminer on old cgi'miners are you running in your proxy servers? Have you done ANYTHING to help adapt to this? Or do you keep shoving your same code down every real pools throat in an attempt to find something that works? And then when it doesn't, you blame the pool operators? Does this sound familiar? I know you already told me before "a sumbitted share is a submitted share" or whatever and dismissed me. But maybe if you can tell me this post is meaningless to this scenario, I will view things in a different light. But until then. It just looks like you haven't put in much time to find out your problems and fix them. Rather you blindly start pointing the finger. Shame on you.




tldr' Go fix your own pools and stop blaming this one without having technical evidence this pool shorted you, or anyone else on purpose. Likely its your own problem from your own doing of shotty coding. If your pools are so beneficial to each other, allow the multipool into bitminter, and lets see your 2 pools work seamlessly, and profitably together. The rest will be history, people will worry about all the future 51% attacks from you 2, capable, well informed pool operators.

That would be on the dashboard in plain sight:

http://i.imgur.com/VOYishU.png

Thank you DrHaribo for confirming that flound1129 is correct, very much appreciated. Now then, this is a job for the devs to get their teeth into and fix - no more insulting little comments from sock puppets who think they know better.

Just need to find a dev.....

EDIT: Anyone who is on the S3 win list & hasn't been contacted or not received anything - please drop me a PM. I'd like to go through a few things with you before going public. Thanks.  

Edit2: A pay per share system - with no share count..........that's a novelty  

I had no issues when Multipool was on Bitminter. CPU load on the server didn't move at all. Nothing.

If the pool has a bug where it stops paying users, then the bug needs to be fixed. That's where the focus should be, not on blaming people who were there at the time because it could be them that tripped over the bug.

Yeah I checked their site again.  Share count is.. pretty much nowhere.  At least nowhere where it can be checked vs. payouts.   I asked s0br to have a share count for each payment on the "individual URL" but that was right before he went MIA.

thanks flound for that has a hunch on something but needs someone at ban end to watch something on their end    

The share count is from my local end, I don't even know where BAN displays its share count but the hashrate it displayed was always accurate to within 5%.

Just a question where the share count based from the local MP pool or the BAN pool share count ??      Just trying to understand something here as has been running a few tests on a few things.....    Has picked something up but needs to run more testing to be 100 percent sure on something......    As there a common here in the forum re some comments about rented rigs via nice hash/west hash <<<<<<   that later also uses a proxy set up etc....   So A quick bit of info would be handy where the share count was from your end at your local pool  or BAN end on their pool stats ?

Im with flound, PPS is as simple as it sounds guys, pay per share, 2.4 BTC (more with the promised bonus) are owed and i suggest it gets sorted, you need to accept the fact that whoever is running this is ripping all of us off, regardless of where your miners are pointed, and stop pulling stupid ideas out of your asses as to how more Hash means less Coin, if thats the way it worked GHASH would be a charitable organisation at this point, NO, more Hash means someone thinks its easier to stick there hand in the honey pot without any one noticing for a better reward than normal, i also like how this is a recurring problem with BAN along with many other problems, but no, its the multipool, lol, my bet is now that multipool is gone all of you will be paid its missing 2.4 bitcoin in intervals to cover the 12.5 percent bonus you where all promised by whomever is running BAN (or whomever organised the 'missing' coin)

Draft a Confidentially Agreement w/ Non Disclosure Clause and problem is fixed and no one will be the wiser...except  for you.

Let an admin of a pool we actually mined on come forward and state publicly that we caused a technical issue on their pool and I will address it.  I will not entertain rumors spread by trolls using one week old accounts.

Regarding the issue at hand, if you want to make the claim that payouts on a PPS pool can be affected by who's submitting shares and/or how many, then I'm sorry but that is an extraordinary claim and the burden of proof is on you.  In fact the PPS calculation is extraordinarily simple:

Shares accepted / difficulty * block reward = payout.

BAN accepted our shares, and we expect to be paid.  2.4 Bitcoins are owed.

Well, whatever reason I think we can all agree that whoevers fault it is needs to get it fixed. I know I've said and done a lot but as messed up as it sounds. The issues with pools does seem to follow multipool, so all bs aside. What harm would it come for you (flound) to hire someone who knows their shit to go over your backend. I know a lot of trust comes in to play but I'm sure doc from bitminer or eleuthria from btcguild would be willing to help and welome you in to their pools if the problems that seem to follow you can be fixed.

Most likely its your bad proxy script coding throwing rejects everywhere and breaking the vardiff overloading the databases but you can search for yourself too many pools and users hold you responsible for breaking pools... Perhaps there could be a coding issue on your end. Perhaps this could be the reason...

No idea, and not really my problem.  PPS is PPS.  Either this pool pays out correctly or it doesn't.

It seems that while you & Co. were here, EVERYONE lost coins, you as well. Not sure why though? I'm not a tech guy.

Please explain how adding more hashrate can break payouts on a PPS pool.

Bottom line is we are still owed 2.4 BTC to be at 100% PPS, let alone 112.5% that was promised.

I agree totally with Morebloodwine, I have stated before, The S3 attracted me, but as I mentioned before and until now I am still with BAN, and I could care less about the S3. Their payouts are what has kept me a member, and well worth the stay. Even when we fall under 2PH we still have nice payouts, and timely payouts as well. Who gives a flying pigs ass about an S3, those things will soon be obsolete anyways, 450ghash give or take, bottom line if you had enough hash to even be eligible for the contest, you have no worries anyways your making good coins (if you know what you are doing)  if you didnt have enough hash to be in the contest sorry about yur luck but by the time you can afford an S3 it will probably not be worth its chips in cost because the ROI due to difficulty with be worthless (unless again you are a smart miner)


Not sure about the rest of your post but I saw a part I could actually prove, below is an excerpt of a previous post, I am still getting timely 2 hour deposits, and my bonuses are matching exactly what they say in my account information. My wallet screenshot shows their payouts and what i was doing during the time as far as switching time limits thru the site for the payouts. I tried 2 hour payouts, 8 hou payouts then 4 hour payouts and went back to 2 hour payouts. I can honestly say, SO FAR, I have never had an issue with payouts or bonuses, and below is just a small sample of proof. I use an offline wallet, not sure if that has something to do with it.



and I still have another  0.00227735 waiting to be deposited. but the rental is not complete for another 30 minutes.



My earlier post I pulled this from is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=722202.980 page 50 so if you want to better understand the pictures and the arrows and red boxes you can read it there for yourself, it may be worth the time to do so more valuable information there.

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Stop bitching about useless nonsense, the bottom line here is the pool itself, because long after the contest what really matters in the end are the pools ability to complete timely payouts, their payout schedule, and the amount earned in the payouts. I have not had a problem with the payouts, I have tried a few of their options every one works fine for me. They are right on schedule every time the payout is due. I dont care about the S3 because if the pool stays the way it is, the payouts will well earn me more than an S3 value faster than any other pool out there. And I am a member of a lot of pools. I test pools all day long, and I run honest tests no less than 24 hours for a complete evaluation of a pool. If I like the pool I leave 1 Thash there.

NOTE TO BAN ADMINS:

       Just brush past this nonsense right now, keep doing what you are doing with the pool, DO NOT CHANGE, right now you know and the members who are sticking it out with you know you have the best payout in the network right now, and that (NOT THE S3 GIVEAWAY) is what is going to keep your members. The people here just for the S3 had no intentions of investing their hash in your pool long term, so no matter what you do people like that can not be pleased. My grandfather always said you can please some of the people some of the time, but you can not please all the people all of the time.  

Can we all just agree to let the bitching and moaning go ?

This is a new pool, it's not perfect but what pool is when it starts out ?

In any event, time will tell / decide the fate of the pool so lets just let things unfold as they will.