and Folks, why to let People always go away like that.
I have Kids to feed. I never expect a fortune from Tommy.
Just paying what can be hashed. Thats all.
With VIP contracts you are owner of Computer Hardware.
Paypal should refund within half an year of buying it.
Swedish Chamber of Commerce you find under Google in your homecountry.
I am living in Switzerland. And they are very friendly.
Information about announcing fraud you find under:
https://polisen.se/
choose your language
but I did not find the online form.
So I have to call them but still hope Tommy are making some deals with me or maybe us.
Topic: Miningsweden.se no Payouts since 2016-05-14 - SCAM - page 3. (Read 4566 times)
First he is not frighten me. He is just stupid.
And right, he will get a Penalty for threatening.
According to him the Police will find a lots of miner.
What was he doing today?
I hope mining. Of course in his pocket.
I just asked him to delete my account after he sent me half a dozen of s7. ( which could also be 5)
Thats all. I am not angry with him. It is just Business.
And if he is not doing so maybe the Police is.
And scamming from a Country like Sweden is really really stupid.
And right, he will get a Penalty for threatening.
According to him the Police will find a lots of miner.
What was he doing today?
I hope mining. Of course in his pocket.
I just asked him to delete my account after he sent me half a dozen of s7. ( which could also be 5)
Thats all. I am not angry with him. It is just Business.
And if he is not doing so maybe the Police is.
And scamming from a Country like Sweden is really really stupid.
Wait, wait. So he does not pay and if you report him, he ll post all your personal info online and you will the one who s guilty?
Damn, LTCgear, all over again.
People, sorry for your loss.
Damn, LTCgear, all over again.
People, sorry for your loss.
i wasnt into that LTCgear thing, can you sum this up for me in a few sentences ?
thanks 
Wait, wait. So he does not pay and if you report him, he ll post all your personal info online and you will the one who s guilty?
Damn, LTCgear, all over again.
People, sorry for your loss.
Damn, LTCgear, all over again.
People, sorry for your loss.
haha he wants to frighten you, how cute. 
if he makes your data public, you can get way more money from him
if he makes your data public, you can get way more money from him
I asked Tommy MiningSweden for refund according my VIP contracts in money or Miner or I will inform the Swedish Authorities about his business behavior what I did (bcse I did not get an answer) in my homecountry and they immediately found the company and suggested me to open a fraud case as soon as possible with the Police in Sweden and gave me the necessary information and I explained to Tommy how the story is going on and he repeated on my email (seems to be a wonder) as follows:
---- "Tommy - MiningSweden.se" <[email protected]> schrieb:
> Hello Tom,
>
> Well if you do something like that the police will find a lot of miners
> and also see all the papers and business so it will not make any difrens
> more then that I then need to close down all operation even to try to
> continue paying out the users at least to the halving, also having a
> plan to see if I can get the other income bas to cover even payouts
> after the halving but I don't know how it will look for it then.
>
> BUT if you want to do this it is up to you, as a thank you if you do it
> I will post all your personal information with adress, phone number and
> email soo ALL users that you have made loose the rest of their payouts
> that they will have can thank you for fucking it up for them more then
> it is.
>
> My ambition is to payout all the payouts as I have stated.
>
> And Magnus has nothing to do with this, he just helped send the miners
> to you.
>
> And by the way, it is people like you that has made me close down since
> you are not worth the energy.
>
> So please, don't mess this up for all the other users.
>
> And about your information 7000 clients is a bit incorrect, well we have
> 7000+ registered users but only around 10-15% of them are customers and
> most of them have bought share for 10-30 usd.
>
> So get your fact right first before you start screaming.
>
> Make your withdraws from the system and I will pay them as we go but if
> I get a call from the police with your name on the report.
>
> ---
> Tommy
> www.miningsweden.se
>
> 2016-05-26 16:44 skrev Tom Fricker:
> > Hi Magnus
> >
> > I did not receive any proposal yet from your part.
> >
> > So I received following information from Swedish Chamber of Commerce.
> >
> > 1. They are aware of you company.
> >
> > 2. Around 7000 clients may be an amount of several milions uss.
> >
> > 3. The advised me to open a fraud case on polisen.se
> >
> > Therefore I expect you by today a proposal as in my email yesterday.
> >
> > Otherwise I will open a fraud case tomorrow online on polisen.se
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Thomas
So he had to shut down because me (and probably some others) but has a lot of miners which the police will find.
So if Tommy will not refund with miners maybe the police will do.
If anyone will have my address feel free to ask and I publish her.
And regarding the s5 Miners.
He wanted me to give Hash. I refused, informed Paypal and after that I send me 1 S5 Miner and 1 S7 Miner.
So feel free to ask about address of mine if you really believe this person will pay bitcoin later or fight to get at least some S7 miners as compensation.
---- "Tommy - MiningSweden.se" <[email protected]> schrieb:
> Hello Tom,
>
> Well if you do something like that the police will find a lot of miners
> and also see all the papers and business so it will not make any difrens
> more then that I then need to close down all operation even to try to
> continue paying out the users at least to the halving, also having a
> plan to see if I can get the other income bas to cover even payouts
> after the halving but I don't know how it will look for it then.
>
> BUT if you want to do this it is up to you, as a thank you if you do it
> I will post all your personal information with adress, phone number and
> email soo ALL users that you have made loose the rest of their payouts
> that they will have can thank you for fucking it up for them more then
> it is.
>
> My ambition is to payout all the payouts as I have stated.
>
> And Magnus has nothing to do with this, he just helped send the miners
> to you.
>
> And by the way, it is people like you that has made me close down since
> you are not worth the energy.
>
> So please, don't mess this up for all the other users.
>
> And about your information 7000 clients is a bit incorrect, well we have
> 7000+ registered users but only around 10-15% of them are customers and
> most of them have bought share for 10-30 usd.
>
> So get your fact right first before you start screaming.
>
> Make your withdraws from the system and I will pay them as we go but if
> I get a call from the police with your name on the report.
>
> ---
> Tommy
> www.miningsweden.se
>
> 2016-05-26 16:44 skrev Tom Fricker:
> > Hi Magnus
> >
> > I did not receive any proposal yet from your part.
> >
> > So I received following information from Swedish Chamber of Commerce.
> >
> > 1. They are aware of you company.
> >
> > 2. Around 7000 clients may be an amount of several milions uss.
> >
> > 3. The advised me to open a fraud case on polisen.se
> >
> > Therefore I expect you by today a proposal as in my email yesterday.
> >
> > Otherwise I will open a fraud case tomorrow online on polisen.se
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Thomas
So he had to shut down because me (and probably some others) but has a lot of miners which the police will find.
So if Tommy will not refund with miners maybe the police will do.
If anyone will have my address feel free to ask and I publish her.
And regarding the s5 Miners.
He wanted me to give Hash. I refused, informed Paypal and after that I send me 1 S5 Miner and 1 S7 Miner.
So feel free to ask about address of mine if you really believe this person will pay bitcoin later or fight to get at least some S7 miners as compensation.
So what u re saying is Paypal punishes people who invest into BTC by refusing to protect them?
You are almost right. I am beginning to believe that the ease of paypal chargeback for btc is likely an urban legend.
So what u re saying is Paypal punishes people who invest into BTC by refusing to protect them?
buyer protection for the purchase of most goods and services.
that says the paypal site, so there is room for them.
if paypal would like bitcoins, why they dont accept them
Another new scam site , I think most of those sites are ponzi scheme and when they are out of fund they turn into a scam , I can't trust any cloud mining , unless one or two sites similar to hashflare ... I invested in it and I hope it will still paying for long time , because they have good strategy .
So what u re saying is Paypal punishes people who invest into BTC by refusing to protect them?
Read my experience with MS : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1464949
My paypal chargeback attempt against MS has failed.
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yes this is the only point they can come up with, i found in the web.
paypal hates bitcoin. *competitor*
you bought a service, for example a webhost, pay for 12 months and they shut everything down after 3 months?
edit: ohh i see you bought that miners
If paypal dont stand with you, may your country has something like an consumer protection law and helps you for free to get your agreement with tommy.
This seems like LTCgear all over again. Also, this is why I hate BTC anonymity, it only allows scammers to do this kind of thing.
It is only problematic because in most cases you let them scam you. I was overly optimistic towards some bullshiters in the past as well, never more.Some bitcoin scammers have their identity revealed and there is still very little legal action taken against them.
So I guess it is not entirely about anonymity.
Exactly, people who have been into bitcoin for a time now know what to expect when new companies like mining sweden pop up. These companies never last more then 2 years. Which is why there should be some information to newbie's how new companies are very good in taking away your money.
Investing in bitcoin is the same as other investing, the market will give you are decent ROI, not a better ROI then an average stock.
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another one bites the dust?
I almost invest here back when I was looking for a good cloud mining site and miningswede always come out with a good reputation on many reviews I did not push to invest because it's not worth to invest on cloud mining anymore..
This seems like LTCgear all over again. Also, this is why I hate BTC anonymity, it only allows scammers to do this kind of thing.
It is only problematic because in most cases you let them scam you. I was overly optimistic towards some bullshiters in the past as well, never more.Some bitcoin scammers have their identity revealed and there is still very little legal action taken against them.
So I guess it is not entirely about anonymity.
Quote
Hello,
First I need to say I´m sorry for the delay in responses from me but it has been a lot of work this weekend and also I have been getting a lot of email that has started me to rethink why I´m doing this and you will get more information about this in the following information.
About the VIP shares
During the last year we used all our extra power and miners to give you users more back wile the payouts still was higher since everyone in bitcoin mining knew that the payouts would go down due to higher mining difficulty.
The result of this you have seen in the payout spread that I have posted in the news before.
percent
Giving you user a much higher payout as a user.
On the negative side of this we haven’t build any profit in the company and we have also burnt out both the miners and capital for running the farm further.
So what I´m saying is that you have been given the profit for your VIP shares during the last year.
You are probably upset about this but if you think of it and check the payout spreadsheet you will see that it has been better to get the payouts at a higher payout rate then now when it is getting even lower.
So this year there will not be any other payouts then the extra payouts that has already been paid.
Now about the payouts
I have got some emails during this weekend that has made me think about why I´m doing this. And after the kind of emails I have got I have decided to close down the mining operation and that will effect the payouts as they are today.
What I will do is to run the payouts in the system until the halving of the bitcoin production when I expect the S7 miners will be totally out of the game.
This means that we can´t payout as regular as we have been doing up to now but we will eventually payout all that your account has been accumulating in the payouts up to the day when the halving is done and we will stop the payouts.
The payouts will follow the bitcoin difficulty.
How we will pay for the payouts? We will sell out miners to cover some of the costs and I also have some other interesting ideas within crypto how we can generate the payouts to you guys and I promise you that we will deliver the payouts to you even if it takes some time.
I don’t expect anyone of you to understand my choice but all the negative energy has finally taken me down on this.
So my focus will now be on getting you all the payouts so the MS site will stay online and you will be able to follow your payouts in the system and also follow updates on the news page.
I don’t have the energy to answer angry emails, sorry but I don’t have the energy for that.
I´m sorry for this but I have tried as hard as I can to provide a solid platform but Bitcoin mining is not easy in any way.
OBS. Mining Sweden is not closing down it´s business so your VIP shares will hopefully be worth much more next year when we have other business in MS, it is only our Mining operation that is closing down
Your friend
Tommy
First I need to say I´m sorry for the delay in responses from me but it has been a lot of work this weekend and also I have been getting a lot of email that has started me to rethink why I´m doing this and you will get more information about this in the following information.
About the VIP shares
During the last year we used all our extra power and miners to give you users more back wile the payouts still was higher since everyone in bitcoin mining knew that the payouts would go down due to higher mining difficulty.
The result of this you have seen in the payout spread that I have posted in the news before.
percent
Giving you user a much higher payout as a user.
On the negative side of this we haven’t build any profit in the company and we have also burnt out both the miners and capital for running the farm further.
So what I´m saying is that you have been given the profit for your VIP shares during the last year.
You are probably upset about this but if you think of it and check the payout spreadsheet you will see that it has been better to get the payouts at a higher payout rate then now when it is getting even lower.
So this year there will not be any other payouts then the extra payouts that has already been paid.
Now about the payouts
I have got some emails during this weekend that has made me think about why I´m doing this. And after the kind of emails I have got I have decided to close down the mining operation and that will effect the payouts as they are today.
What I will do is to run the payouts in the system until the halving of the bitcoin production when I expect the S7 miners will be totally out of the game.
This means that we can´t payout as regular as we have been doing up to now but we will eventually payout all that your account has been accumulating in the payouts up to the day when the halving is done and we will stop the payouts.
The payouts will follow the bitcoin difficulty.
How we will pay for the payouts? We will sell out miners to cover some of the costs and I also have some other interesting ideas within crypto how we can generate the payouts to you guys and I promise you that we will deliver the payouts to you even if it takes some time.
I don’t expect anyone of you to understand my choice but all the negative energy has finally taken me down on this.
So my focus will now be on getting you all the payouts so the MS site will stay online and you will be able to follow your payouts in the system and also follow updates on the news page.
I don’t have the energy to answer angry emails, sorry but I don’t have the energy for that.
I´m sorry for this but I have tried as hard as I can to provide a solid platform but Bitcoin mining is not easy in any way.
OBS. Mining Sweden is not closing down it´s business so your VIP shares will hopefully be worth much more next year when we have other business in MS, it is only our Mining operation that is closing down
Your friend
Tommy
i bought some
"20 Mining Share grants the owner:
20 GH S7 mining power for 12 months.
All power, maintenance and pool fees for 12 months."
and
"Each VIP Plus share package will grant the owner the following:
1 VIP Share (only the VIP part)
10GH S7 Miningshares including all costs for 12 months.
Each VIP share will also grant the holder a percentage of 25% of the companies profits"
and he shuts them down after 2-3 months
? I wonder how he wants to explain that to paypal...
Read my experience with MS : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1464949
My paypal chargeback attempt against MS has failed.
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dam , so he tried to hussle more money by claiming he has s9's coming , what a piece of shit. he bamboozle a lot of people, their dumping like crazy on hashnest thinking s9's were coming this week. but if u look at bitmain website there still shipping s7 this week.
yes he tried.
He scammed a lot of people
See here:
https://www.miningsweden.se/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/miningsweden_investment_2016-02-29_1829.png
https://www.miningsweden.se/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Mining-Sweden.jpg
you can take a look at his data uploadet via wordpress,
also you see all the attachments of the "support tickets"
https://www.miningsweden.se/wp-content/uploads/
Here you find Pdf documents about other mining equipment and scrypt mining contracts
https://www.miningsweden.se/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/
dam , so he tried to hussle more money by claiming he has s9's coming , what a piece of shit. he bamboozle a lot of people, their dumping like crazy on hashnest thinking s9's were coming this week. but if u look at bitmain website there still shipping s7 this week.
Guess I'm one of the lucky ones, joined March of 2015 and my payouts received are within $30 of what I put in.
I knew something was wrong when Tommy started "tap dancing" about hard to calculate profits for distribution to VIP share holders. he quit answering my emails and support tickets weeks ago.
Looks like it all ended today.
In the beginning, I think he touted being registered as a corporation in the US.
I knew something was wrong when Tommy started "tap dancing" about hard to calculate profits for distribution to VIP share holders. he quit answering my emails and support tickets weeks ago.
Looks like it all ended today.
In the beginning, I think he touted being registered as a corporation in the US.
Quote
Hello,
First I need to say I´m sorry for the delay in responses from me but it has been a lot of work this weekend and also I have been getting a lot of email that has started me to rethink why I´m doing this and you will get more information about this in the following information.
About the VIP shares
During the last year we used all our extra power and miners to give you users more back wile the payouts still was higher since everyone in bitcoin mining knew that the payouts would go down due to higher mining difficulty.
The result of this you have seen in the payout spread that I have posted in the news before.
percent
Giving you user a much higher payout as a user.
On the negative side of this we haven’t build any profit in the company and we have also burnt out both the miners and capital for running the farm further.
So what I´m saying is that you have been given the profit for your VIP shares during the last year.
You are probably upset about this but if you think of it and check the payout spreadsheet you will see that it has been better to get the payouts at a higher payout rate then now when it is getting even lower.
So this year there will not be any other payouts then the extra payouts that has already been paid.
Now about the payouts
I have got some emails during this weekend that has made me think about why I´m doing this. And after the kind of emails I have got I have decided to close down the mining operation and that will effect the payouts as they are today.
What I will do is to run the payouts in the system until the halving of the bitcoin production when I expect the S7 miners will be totally out of the game.
This means that we can´t payout as regular as we have been doing up to now but we will eventually payout all that your account has been accumulating in the payouts up to the day when the halving is done and we will stop the payouts.
The payouts will follow the bitcoin difficulty.
How we will pay for the payouts? We will sell out miners to cover some of the costs and I also have some other interesting ideas within crypto how we can generate the payouts to you guys and I promise you that we will deliver the payouts to you even if it takes some time.
I don’t expect anyone of you to understand my choice but all the negative energy has finally taken me down on this.
So my focus will now be on getting you all the payouts so the MS site will stay online and you will be able to follow your payouts in the system and also follow updates on the news page.
I don’t have the energy to answer angry emails, sorry but I don’t have the energy for that.
I´m sorry for this but I have tried as hard as I can to provide a solid platform but Bitcoin mining is not easy in any way.
OBS. Mining Sweden is not closing down it´s business so your VIP shares will hopefully be worth much more next year when we have other business in MS, it is only our Mining operation that is closing down
Your friend
Tommy
First I need to say I´m sorry for the delay in responses from me but it has been a lot of work this weekend and also I have been getting a lot of email that has started me to rethink why I´m doing this and you will get more information about this in the following information.
About the VIP shares
During the last year we used all our extra power and miners to give you users more back wile the payouts still was higher since everyone in bitcoin mining knew that the payouts would go down due to higher mining difficulty.
The result of this you have seen in the payout spread that I have posted in the news before.
percent
Giving you user a much higher payout as a user.
On the negative side of this we haven’t build any profit in the company and we have also burnt out both the miners and capital for running the farm further.
So what I´m saying is that you have been given the profit for your VIP shares during the last year.
You are probably upset about this but if you think of it and check the payout spreadsheet you will see that it has been better to get the payouts at a higher payout rate then now when it is getting even lower.
So this year there will not be any other payouts then the extra payouts that has already been paid.
Now about the payouts
I have got some emails during this weekend that has made me think about why I´m doing this. And after the kind of emails I have got I have decided to close down the mining operation and that will effect the payouts as they are today.
What I will do is to run the payouts in the system until the halving of the bitcoin production when I expect the S7 miners will be totally out of the game.
This means that we can´t payout as regular as we have been doing up to now but we will eventually payout all that your account has been accumulating in the payouts up to the day when the halving is done and we will stop the payouts.
The payouts will follow the bitcoin difficulty.
How we will pay for the payouts? We will sell out miners to cover some of the costs and I also have some other interesting ideas within crypto how we can generate the payouts to you guys and I promise you that we will deliver the payouts to you even if it takes some time.
I don’t expect anyone of you to understand my choice but all the negative energy has finally taken me down on this.
So my focus will now be on getting you all the payouts so the MS site will stay online and you will be able to follow your payouts in the system and also follow updates on the news page.
I don’t have the energy to answer angry emails, sorry but I don’t have the energy for that.
I´m sorry for this but I have tried as hard as I can to provide a solid platform but Bitcoin mining is not easy in any way.
OBS. Mining Sweden is not closing down it´s business so your VIP shares will hopefully be worth much more next year when we have other business in MS, it is only our Mining operation that is closing down
Your friend
Tommy
i bought some
"20 Mining Share grants the owner:
20 GH S7 mining power for 12 months.
All power, maintenance and pool fees for 12 months."
and
"Each VIP Plus share package will grant the owner the following:
1 VIP Share (only the VIP part)
10GH S7 Miningshares including all costs for 12 months.
Each VIP share will also grant the holder a percentage of 25% of the companies profits"
and he shuts them down after 2-3 months
? I wonder how he wants to explain that to paypal...
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