Topic: Mininig with Air Conditioner ??? (Read 932 times)
I don't use AC for cooling I have friends who use AC and this doesn't stop the rig from mining it's just that I prefer using old cooling method which is getting the heats out of the farm or room with breeze, before building a rig make sure you find where easy breeze pass through in your home
12,000 btu cools 3529 watts if nature favors you, if not then that 12,000 btu might just cool down around half of that (rule of thumb of the other guy). the (+/-) ~40-50% margin of that is huge. climate has a huge role.
Yes ambient temperature plays a big role here, for example I have ac in my room and that is a 12000 btu, when is at 40 degress celsius, that 12000 is close to nothing because little by little that 40c degrees air comes inside, my room is not totally insulated, so ambient temperature will always come inside little by little and when the temperature ambient is at 24c then I can even leave my window opened hehe, if you plan ac then you need to totally insulate that room but still as the ambient temperature rises, less efficient will the ac be.
I saw before miner strip down ac and build cooling directly to gpu heatsink, and it successfully turning down lot of heat in modified cooler, this most effective way using ac for mining compared standar cooling down the room, which is worst for miner only down 1-2c for massive wattage
And I have natural ventilation, but I always try to do so that there is no unnecessary noise.
This situation is highly dependent on your neighbors and the crime in your area.
If there are more than 100 video cards in the room, then many miners prefer to use security.
This situation is highly dependent on your neighbors and the crime in your area.
If there are more than 100 video cards in the room, then many miners prefer to use security.
this is a really good setup, natural ventilation = lots and lots of space
real estate is far more expensive than AC'ing your rigs, but if you have those already or renting it for cheap..then you win.
General rule of thumb is that your AC unit should be at least as many watts as your rigs.
That is interesting, I have never heard of that, as far as I know, 1 watt = 3.4 btu, so if your ac is 12.000 btu then you could cool down up to 3529 watts. Anyway, I'm not against using ac, people need to calculate if is worth and this topic comes up a lot when profit is very high. When profit is low or negative nobody talks about ac ehhe because there can't be any margin of error and if there is then you are screwed --> out of business hehe
12,000 btu cools 3529 watts if nature favors you, if not then that 12,000 btu might just cool down around half of that (rule of thumb of the other guy). the (+/-) ~40-50% margin of that is huge. climate has a huge role.
General rule of thumb is that your AC unit should be at least as many watts as your rigs.
That is interesting, I have never heard of that, as far as I know, 1 watt = 3.4 btu, so if your ac is 12.000 btu then you could cool down up to 3529 watts. Anyway, I'm not against using ac, people need to calculate if is worth and this topic comes up a lot when profit is very high. When profit is low or negative nobody talks about ac ehhe because there can't be any margin of error and if there is then you are screwed --> out of business hehe
I have 4 pcs mining rigs. Each of them has 12 GPUs RX570 4GB.
Total 48 GPU. I want to use air conditioner for cooling.
What should I do ? is it safe to use air conditioner ?
cold air and hot air in the same room is a problem ?
Total 48 GPU. I want to use air conditioner for cooling.
What should I do ? is it safe to use air conditioner ?
cold air and hot air in the same room is a problem ?
Is cold air from your AC safe for your desktop pc? Yes, it's absolutely safe to have cold/hot air in the same room.
General rule of thumb is that your AC unit should be at least as many watts as your rigs. So if you're doing Eth with those 570s, that's roughly 80w x 48 = 3840w. Add in some overhead for the CPUs, and make certain that your cooling is redundant because at some point one of your AC units will go down.
And I have natural ventilation, but I always try to do so that there is no unnecessary noise.
This situation is highly dependent on your neighbors and the crime in your area.
If there are more than 100 video cards in the room, then many miners prefer to use security.
This situation is highly dependent on your neighbors and the crime in your area.
If there are more than 100 video cards in the room, then many miners prefer to use security.
I don't like using AC in my farm because they consume more power than my mining rig, not good if you don't have extremely cheap power solutions it's better to buy two exhaust fans, they are different in size depending on how big your farm is
The problem may be that air conditioning cannot be installed in some rooms, while ventilation cannot be installed in others.For example, if I put the air conditioner in my garage and leave it on at night, then the thieves will guess that there is a mining farm there.
Such moments should always be kept in mind.
Same with ventilation lol.
Security is another section/chapter/topic in mining.
I don't like using AC in my farm because they consume more power than my mining rig, not good if you don't have extremely cheap power solutions it's better to buy two exhaust fans, they are different in size depending on how big your farm is
The problem may be that air conditioning cannot be installed in some rooms, while ventilation cannot be installed in others.For example, if I put the air conditioner in my garage and leave it on at night, then the thieves will guess that there is a mining farm there.
Such moments should always be kept in mind.
I don't like using AC in my farm because they consume more power than my mining rig, not good if you don't have extremely cheap power solutions it's better to buy two exhaust fans, they are different in size depending on how big your farm is
I have 4 pcs mining rigs. Each of them has 12 GPUs RX570 4GB.
Total 48 GPU. I want to use air conditioner for cooling.
What should I do ? is it safe to use air conditioner ?
cold air and hot air in the same room is a problem ?
I dont care about the profitibality I just want to know is there any problem if i use air conditioner ?
The cold air dircetly to the rigs or somewhere else direction ?
if there is anyone use air conditioner, please help me. I want to be set up a proffessional system.
7kw air conditioner is enough ?
Total 48 GPU. I want to use air conditioner for cooling.
What should I do ? is it safe to use air conditioner ?
cold air and hot air in the same room is a problem ?
I dont care about the profitibality I just want to know is there any problem if i use air conditioner ?
The cold air dircetly to the rigs or somewhere else direction ?
if there is anyone use air conditioner, please help me. I want to be set up a proffessional system.
7kw air conditioner is enough ?
most of us like to vent the hot air out of the room.
7kw air conditioner is not what I need to know
how many btu does it do?
you have 48 card that can pull 150 watts each that is 7200 watts 1 watt of heat is about 4 btu
so you produce about 28,000 to 30,000 btu.
you ac would need to cool more then 35,000 btu.
I would also like to mention you won't be able to use your 48 cards past nov or dec of this year. They won't work on eth or other algos.
read this thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/4gb-gpus-and-dag-file-load-problem-with-claymore-and-ethereum-5265702
it will help you to understand all those cards will become useless for mining very soon.
I have 4 pcs mining rigs. Each of them has 12 GPUs RX570 4GB.
Total 48 GPU. I want to use air conditioner for cooling.
What should I do ? is it safe to use air conditioner ?
cold air and hot air in the same room is a problem ?
I dont care about the profitibality I just want to know is there any problem if i use air conditioner ?
The cold air dircetly to the rigs or somewhere else direction ?
if there is anyone use air conditioner, please help me. I want to be set up a proffessional system.
7kw air conditioner is enough ?
Total 48 GPU. I want to use air conditioner for cooling.
What should I do ? is it safe to use air conditioner ?
cold air and hot air in the same room is a problem ?
I dont care about the profitibality I just want to know is there any problem if i use air conditioner ?
The cold air dircetly to the rigs or somewhere else direction ?
if there is anyone use air conditioner, please help me. I want to be set up a proffessional system.
7kw air conditioner is enough ?
I use a commercial AC to cool down my 42 GPUs and since march everything has been perfect!
To be more specific it's the Mitsubishi 24,000 BTU Wall Mounted Air Conditioner Air Handler
Model: PKA-A24KA7.TH
https://www.mitsubishitechinfo.ca/sites/default/files/SB_PKA-A24KA7_PUY-A24NHA7%28-BS%29_201908.pdf
I am planning to add more GPUs so that way I am sure the temperature and humidity are controlled plus it works during winter, the outdoor unit can do up until -40°C.
It cost me 7,358.40 CAD and I have professional technicians I can contact quickly if something wrong happened.
What will damage your GPUs the most is the heat, I am planning to keep healthy my GPUs for years to come and I don't have to bother anymore with a ventilation system which you have to constantly adjust manually based on the outside temperature.
It's been amazing up until now but for someone with high electricity cost it might not be financially wise. Here in Québec I pay 0,10$ per kWh which is pretty low and our electricity comes from a green and renewable source.
False
What most kill GPU are the moist.
Never use AC units if you want your GPU last years.
I have 56 GPU in a a room at 34C all year since 2017 (somethimes the room get at 40C) and all perfect, so far 2 MSI armor and 1 Powercolor fail but thats a problem with the heatsink (in this models they dont touch the memory, only the GPU) i fix then reballing the memory that fail.
Just put all the cards on a "Hot Room" and "Cold Room" and you will fine.
Miner container is the best example.
AC removes moist, it dehumidifies the air.
also 24,000 btu is enough if you are in a cold climate but if you are in a hot climate you'll need x2 to x3 of that 24,000 btu.
You need buy a dehumidifier if you want remove the moist, not a AC conditioner. See how DATACENTERS remove the moist.
https://www.cielowigle.com/blog/dehumidifier-vs-air-conditioner/
if you want to dehumidify without air conditioning, dehumidifier will work but if you have an air conditioning then you don't need a dehumidifier., what you need to buy is a humidity measurement tool so you can decide if you need both or an AC is enough, chances are AC is enough.
the water dripping from the AC unit..that's water being removed from the air.
I have 4 pcs mining rigs. Each of them has 12 GPUs RX570 4GB.
Total 48 GPU. I want to use air conditioner for cooling.
What should I do ? is it safe to use air conditioner ?
cold air and hot air in the same room is a problem ?
I dont care about the profitibality I just want to know is there any problem if i use air conditioner ?
The cold air dircetly to the rigs or somewhere else direction ?
if there is anyone use air conditioner, please help me. I want to be set up a proffessional system.
7kw air conditioner is enough ?
Total 48 GPU. I want to use air conditioner for cooling.
What should I do ? is it safe to use air conditioner ?
cold air and hot air in the same room is a problem ?
I dont care about the profitibality I just want to know is there any problem if i use air conditioner ?
The cold air dircetly to the rigs or somewhere else direction ?
if there is anyone use air conditioner, please help me. I want to be set up a proffessional system.
7kw air conditioner is enough ?
I use a commercial AC to cool down my 42 GPUs and since march everything has been perfect!
To be more specific it's the Mitsubishi 24,000 BTU Wall Mounted Air Conditioner Air Handler
Model: PKA-A24KA7.TH
https://www.mitsubishitechinfo.ca/sites/default/files/SB_PKA-A24KA7_PUY-A24NHA7%28-BS%29_201908.pdf
I am planning to add more GPUs so that way I am sure the temperature and humidity are controlled plus it works during winter, the outdoor unit can do up until -40°C.
It cost me 7,358.40 CAD and I have professional technicians I can contact quickly if something wrong happened.
What will damage your GPUs the most is the heat, I am planning to keep healthy my GPUs for years to come and I don't have to bother anymore with a ventilation system which you have to constantly adjust manually based on the outside temperature.
It's been amazing up until now but for someone with high electricity cost it might not be financially wise. Here in Québec I pay 0,10$ per kWh which is pretty low and our electricity comes from a green and renewable source.
False
What most kill GPU are the moist.
Never use AC units if you want your GPU last years.
I have 56 GPU in a a room at 34C all year since 2017 (somethimes the room get at 40C) and all perfect, so far 2 MSI armor and 1 Powercolor fail but thats a problem with the heatsink (in this models they dont touch the memory, only the GPU) i fix then reballing the memory that fail.
Just put all the cards on a "Hot Room" and "Cold Room" and you will fine.
Miner container is the best example.
AC removes moist, it dehumidifies the air.
also 24,000 btu is enough if you are in a cold climate but if you are in a hot climate you'll need x2 to x3 of that 24,000 btu.
You need buy a dehumidifier if you want remove the moist, not a AC conditioner. See how DATACENTERS remove the moist.
https://www.cielowigle.com/blog/dehumidifier-vs-air-conditioner/
I dont mine ETH. So, the power consumption is low. 48 GPUs eats only 4200W
The income isnt important. This is my hobby. I want to see everything well running, clean and tidy.
The AC system is the inverter one. The power consumption is 400W-2200W. It changes all the time.
Static will be problem ? or any other problem ?
My rigs are running on the same room with the AC for a few days. There is no any problem so far.
The AC doesnt blow the air to the rigs directly. The room is enough cold.
I set autofan option in HiveOS. The temparatures of the GPUs are 59c-66c.
I dont want GPUs are so cold. 59c-66c is enough for me. In this way, the AC system eats lower WATT.
The important thing is the GPUs has no dust, no overheating.
The income isnt important. This is my hobby. I want to see everything well running, clean and tidy.
The AC system is the inverter one. The power consumption is 400W-2200W. It changes all the time.
Static will be problem ? or any other problem ?
My rigs are running on the same room with the AC for a few days. There is no any problem so far.
The AC doesnt blow the air to the rigs directly. The room is enough cold.
I set autofan option in HiveOS. The temparatures of the GPUs are 59c-66c.
I dont want GPUs are so cold. 59c-66c is enough for me. In this way, the AC system eats lower WATT.
The important thing is the GPUs has no dust, no overheating.
My Mitsubishi commercial AC also has the benefits of a variable speed inverter scroll compression which means:
Conventional compressors typically only run at one speed and can only cycle
between on and off – not an effective method for delivering cooling in a
server room. The P-Series is equipped with Mitsubishi Electric’s quality-made,
durable variable speed inverter scroll compressor that can adjust its speed to
provide precise cooling as needed. This means:
• a consistent, precise temperature is maintained at all times;
• increased energy efficiencies, resulting in cost savings;
• when a server room expands, the P-Series can adapt to the increasing heat
load without requiring the installation of additional equipment.
My AC cost me around 3,50 CAD per day (2% of my average daily revenue) for continuous sensible heat load of my minage room. I will soon add more GPUs and will capitalize even more on my AC daily cost even though I spent many hours to set my node validator on RocketPool for the upcoming ETH merge.
the data sheet you posted stated it is twin rotary and not scroll compression.
a non inverter will be having the same performance as an inverter at maxed out capacity.
the only good thing about an inverter is this
Quote
• when a server room expands, the P-Series can adapt to the increasing heat
because it is better in adjusting than a typical thermostat which is an on-off switch.but i'll have a different strategy if i were you, i'll use a non inverter windows type 12,000 btu for the first 50% setup of the rigs, as the mining expands i'll add another 12,000 btu. the benefits are..
- non inverter AC are cheaper.
- if an AC has a problem you can run your farm at 50% (backup model)
- window type are just square boxes, 12000 btu AC is still small enough for a single person to remove and install, so if you are a one man army like me, you can DIY (change capacitor, clean, install etc.), no need to call anybody and waste time. non inverter AC are lighter than inverter AC BTW.
have a spare AC so you can continue mining while an AC is in maintenance.
have an air filter sheet that you can place over the evaporator intake, this will reduce your maintenance times for cleaning the evaporator.
I dont mine ETH. So, the power consumption is low. 48 GPUs eats only 4200W
The income isnt important. This is my hobby. I want to see everything well running, clean and tidy.
The AC system is the inverter one. The power consumption is 400W-2200W. It changes all the time.
Static will be problem ? or any other problem ?
My rigs are running on the same room with the AC for a few days. There is no any problem so far.
The AC doesnt blow the air to the rigs directly. The room is enough cold.
I set autofan option in HiveOS. The temparatures of the GPUs are 59c-66c.
I dont want GPUs are so cold. 59c-66c is enough for me. In this way, the AC system eats lower WATT.
The important thing is the GPUs has no dust, no overheating.
The income isnt important. This is my hobby. I want to see everything well running, clean and tidy.
The AC system is the inverter one. The power consumption is 400W-2200W. It changes all the time.
Static will be problem ? or any other problem ?
My rigs are running on the same room with the AC for a few days. There is no any problem so far.
The AC doesnt blow the air to the rigs directly. The room is enough cold.
I set autofan option in HiveOS. The temparatures of the GPUs are 59c-66c.
I dont want GPUs are so cold. 59c-66c is enough for me. In this way, the AC system eats lower WATT.
The important thing is the GPUs has no dust, no overheating.
My Mitsubishi commercial AC also has the benefits of a variable speed inverter scroll compression which means:
Conventional compressors typically only run at one speed and can only cycle
between on and off – not an effective method for delivering cooling in a
server room. The P-Series is equipped with Mitsubishi Electric’s quality-made,
durable variable speed inverter scroll compressor that can adjust its speed to
provide precise cooling as needed. This means:
• a consistent, precise temperature is maintained at all times;
• increased energy efficiencies, resulting in cost savings;
• when a server room expands, the P-Series can adapt to the increasing heat
load without requiring the installation of additional equipment.
My AC cost me around 3,50 CAD per day (2% of my average daily revenue) for continuous sensible heat load of my minage room. I will soon add more GPUs and will capitalize even more on my AC daily cost even though I spent many hours to set my node validator on RocketPool for the upcoming ETH merge.
I have 4 pcs mining rigs. Each of them has 12 GPUs RX570 4GB.
Total 48 GPU. I want to use air conditioner for cooling.
What should I do ? is it safe to use air conditioner ?
cold air and hot air in the same room is a problem ?
I dont care about the profitibality I just want to know is there any problem if i use air conditioner ?
The cold air dircetly to the rigs or somewhere else direction ?
if there is anyone use air conditioner, please help me. I want to be set up a proffessional system.
7kw air conditioner is enough ?
Total 48 GPU. I want to use air conditioner for cooling.
What should I do ? is it safe to use air conditioner ?
cold air and hot air in the same room is a problem ?
I dont care about the profitibality I just want to know is there any problem if i use air conditioner ?
The cold air dircetly to the rigs or somewhere else direction ?
if there is anyone use air conditioner, please help me. I want to be set up a proffessional system.
7kw air conditioner is enough ?
I use a commercial AC to cool down my 42 GPUs and since march everything has been perfect!
To be more specific it's the Mitsubishi 24,000 BTU Wall Mounted Air Conditioner Air Handler
Model: PKA-A24KA7.TH
https://www.mitsubishitechinfo.ca/sites/default/files/SB_PKA-A24KA7_PUY-A24NHA7%28-BS%29_201908.pdf
I am planning to add more GPUs so that way I am sure the temperature and humidity are controlled plus it works during winter, the outdoor unit can do up until -40°C.
It cost me 7,358.40 CAD and I have professional technicians I can contact quickly if something wrong happened.
What will damage your GPUs the most is the heat, I am planning to keep healthy my GPUs for years to come and I don't have to bother anymore with a ventilation system which you have to constantly adjust manually based on the outside temperature.
It's been amazing up until now but for someone with high electricity cost it might not be financially wise. Here in Québec I pay 0,10$ per kWh which is pretty low and our electricity comes from a green and renewable source.
False
What most kill GPU are the moist.
Never use AC units if you want your GPU last years.
I have 56 GPU in a a room at 34C all year since 2017 (somethimes the room get at 40C) and all perfect, so far 2 MSI armor and 1 Powercolor fail but thats a problem with the heatsink (in this models they dont touch the memory, only the GPU) i fix then reballing the memory that fail.
Just put all the cards on a "Hot Room" and "Cold Room" and you will fine.
Miner container is the best example.
AC removes moist, it dehumidifies the air.
also 24,000 btu is enough if you are in a cold climate but if you are in a hot climate you'll need x2 to x3 of that 24,000 btu.
I have 4 pcs mining rigs. Each of them has 12 GPUs RX570 4GB.
Total 48 GPU. I want to use air conditioner for cooling.
What should I do ? is it safe to use air conditioner ?
cold air and hot air in the same room is a problem ?
I dont care about the profitibality I just want to know is there any problem if i use air conditioner ?
The cold air dircetly to the rigs or somewhere else direction ?
if there is anyone use air conditioner, please help me. I want to be set up a proffessional system.
7kw air conditioner is enough ?
Total 48 GPU. I want to use air conditioner for cooling.
What should I do ? is it safe to use air conditioner ?
cold air and hot air in the same room is a problem ?
I dont care about the profitibality I just want to know is there any problem if i use air conditioner ?
The cold air dircetly to the rigs or somewhere else direction ?
if there is anyone use air conditioner, please help me. I want to be set up a proffessional system.
7kw air conditioner is enough ?
I use a commercial AC to cool down my 42 GPUs and since march everything has been perfect!
To be more specific it's the Mitsubishi 24,000 BTU Wall Mounted Air Conditioner Air Handler
Model: PKA-A24KA7.TH
https://www.mitsubishitechinfo.ca/sites/default/files/SB_PKA-A24KA7_PUY-A24NHA7%28-BS%29_201908.pdf
I am planning to add more GPUs so that way I am sure the temperature and humidity are controlled plus it works during winter, the outdoor unit can do up until -40°C.
It cost me 7,358.40 CAD and I have professional technicians I can contact quickly if something wrong happened.
What will damage your GPUs the most is the heat, I am planning to keep healthy my GPUs for years to come and I don't have to bother anymore with a ventilation system which you have to constantly adjust manually based on the outside temperature.
It's been amazing up until now but for someone with high electricity cost it might not be financially wise. Here in Québec I pay 0,10$ per kWh which is pretty low and our electricity comes from a green and renewable source.
False
What most kill GPU are the moist.
Never use AC units if you want your GPU last years.
I have 56 GPU in a a room at 34C all year since 2017 (somethimes the room get at 40C) and all perfect, so far 2 MSI armor and 1 Powercolor fail but thats a problem with the heatsink (in this models they dont touch the memory, only the GPU) i fix then reballing the memory that fail.
Just put all the cards on a "Hot Room" and "Cold Room" and you will fine.
Miner container is the best example.
But why? I live south of you in much warmer part and run hundreds of gpus even in the heat of August when it can get to 110F and no issue with over heating on just ambient air temps. And before you say it hurts the gear. A lot of my gear is now 5 years old and still running. Out of over 300+ gpus ive lost a total of 4 units in all these years. I think either you dont know how to set up the gear or you are imagining probelms that dont exist (or you have terrible air exchange with the outside). Either way i pay about 1/2 the power cost you do and have a lot more profit because none is wasted on AC. My power is all hydro.
Do as you please but there is no need for AC.
Do as you please but there is no need for AC.
I have 4 pcs mining rigs. Each of them has 12 GPUs RX570 4GB.
Total 48 GPU. I want to use air conditioner for cooling.
What should I do ? is it safe to use air conditioner ?
cold air and hot air in the same room is a problem ?
I dont care about the profitibality I just want to know is there any problem if i use air conditioner ?
The cold air dircetly to the rigs or somewhere else direction ?
if there is anyone use air conditioner, please help me. I want to be set up a proffessional system.
7kw air conditioner is enough ?
Total 48 GPU. I want to use air conditioner for cooling.
What should I do ? is it safe to use air conditioner ?
cold air and hot air in the same room is a problem ?
I dont care about the profitibality I just want to know is there any problem if i use air conditioner ?
The cold air dircetly to the rigs or somewhere else direction ?
if there is anyone use air conditioner, please help me. I want to be set up a proffessional system.
7kw air conditioner is enough ?
I use a commercial AC to cool down my 42 GPUs and since march everything has been perfect!
To be more specific it's the Mitsubishi 24,000 BTU Wall Mounted Air Conditioner Air Handler
Model: PKA-A24KA7.TH
https://www.mitsubishitechinfo.ca/sites/default/files/SB_PKA-A24KA7_PUY-A24NHA7%28-BS%29_201908.pdf
I am planning to add more GPUs so that way I am sure the temperature and humidity are controlled plus it works during winter, the outdoor unit can do up until -40°C.
It cost me 7,358.40 CAD and I have professional technicians I can contact quickly if something wrong happened.
What will damage your GPUs the most is the heat, I am planning to keep healthy my GPUs for years to come and I don't have to bother anymore with a ventilation system which you have to constantly adjust manually based on the outside temperature.
It's been amazing up until now but for someone with high electricity cost it might not be financially wise. Here in Québec I pay 0,10$ per kWh which is pretty low and our electricity comes from a green and renewable source.
I had the experience of using 35 RX570 video cards and analogs in a 30 square meter room without air conditioning.
Several holes in the wall measuring 10x12 centimeters were used for ventilation.
For 3 years, more than one video card did not break, although in the summer it was very hot in the room.
The summer temperature rose above 35 degrees for several weeks. This summer was very hot
Several holes in the wall measuring 10x12 centimeters were used for ventilation.
For 3 years, more than one video card did not break, although in the summer it was very hot in the room.
The summer temperature rose above 35 degrees for several weeks. This summer was very hot
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