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just got an e-mail from black arrow
shows picked up in China
Great,
now samples shipping?
and some tech info ?
now samples shipping?
and some tech info ?
Ill be getting that from them in person, probably Friday/Saturday. I assume they are waiting to pass final tests before releasing samples.
... even code updates 
Great,
now samples shipping?
and some tech info ?
now samples shipping?
and some tech info ?
Ill be getting that from them in person, probably Friday/Saturday. I assume they are waiting to pass final tests before releasing samples.
Great,
now samples shipping?
and some tech info ?
now samples shipping?
and some tech info ?
Soooo
after our small talk here still no update from BA
after our small talk here still no update from BA
Our latest results are 120Ghash while using 150Watts.
^
Soooo
after our small talk here still no update from BA
after our small talk here still no update from BA
I agree
May be this is the right pill for me .
Just to taste where some of our customers with December and January delays of our bitfury based products were.
Let's hope Black Arrow will be able to ship us samples after all.
May be this is the right pill for me .
Just to taste where some of our customers with December and January delays of our bitfury based products were.
Let's hope Black Arrow will be able to ship us samples after all.
You're a good man Marto.
I agree
May be this is the right pill for me .
Just to taste where some of our customers with December and January delays of our bitfury based products were.
Let's hope Black Arrow will be able to ship us samples after all.
May be this is the right pill for me .
Just to taste where some of our customers with December and January delays of our bitfury based products were.
Let's hope Black Arrow will be able to ship us samples after all.
@ Bick
How are your online meetings going , any progress ?
Any working product ?
You always prefer to quote trolls like Joe and call us scam , instead showing a real mining board .
You know the fact that we had some problems is not going to change the fact that after a months of hard work you got , what ?
And since you are not familiar with Joe's case I assume you are just looking for a chance to make us look bad.
Please , I'm really sorry that we managed to came out with working projects and you are still trying .
Please try better and leave me alone. Good luck
@ Joe
Go ask the post office or next time just pay the handling tax for signed post service, then if it is lost you will know.
Your chips were shipped with regular mail as far you refused to pay handling fee!
How are your online meetings going , any progress ?
Any working product ?
You always prefer to quote trolls like Joe and call us scam , instead showing a real mining board .
You know the fact that we had some problems is not going to change the fact that after a months of hard work you got , what ?
And since you are not familiar with Joe's case I assume you are just looking for a chance to make us look bad.
Please , I'm really sorry that we managed to came out with working projects and you are still trying .
Please try better and leave me alone. Good luck
@ Joe
Go ask the post office or next time just pay the handling tax for signed post service, then if it is lost you will know.
Your chips were shipped with regular mail as far you refused to pay handling fee!
While I agree to some end with your comments regarding that WASP project, it really does seem that there's always a constant stream of people trying to grab your ear because you're fucking them around. I hope things get sorted out for you with the BA chips because I like them being in the hands of comptent developers, but maybe you could also take some time for some self-reflection.
The winner will be the community since the discounts require GPL designs going out that is the focus right? Just a note Marto you want to worry more about making your current customers happier as opposed to worrying about some sort of phony staged competition or race with us. We are not your competition.
Bick this here is a joke in return of you almost caling us scam in Zefir's coincraft tread.Our problems with customers are in the past.
And our small team of 3 people for design hw sw and production did already 7 successful mining board projects.
I'm just inviting you EE team in a small competition for fun.
You chose to change the subject.... Why ?
Are you in or not
In the past? Your problems will be in the past when you refund my BTC1.34 that you stole from me.
Ya he has some gall eh?
How are your online meetings going , any progress ?
Any working product ?
You always prefer to quote trolls like Joe and call us scam , instead showing a real mining board .
You know the fact that we had some problems is not going to change the fact that after a months of hard work you got , what ?
And since you are not familiar with Joe's case I assume you are just looking for a chance to make us look bad.
Please , I'm really sorry that we managed to came out with working projects and you are still trying .
Please try better and keep us on your ignore list. Good luck
@ Joe
Go ask the post office or next time just pay the handling tax for signed post service, then if it is lost you will know.
Your chips were shipped with regular mail as far you refused to pay handling fee!
The winner will be the community since the discounts require GPL designs going out that is the focus right? Just a note Marto you want to worry more about making your current customers happier as opposed to worrying about some sort of phony staged competition or race with us. We are not your competition.
Bick this here is a joke in return of you almost caling us scam in Zefir's coincraft tread.Our problems with customers are in the past.
And our small team of 3 people for design hw sw and production did already 7 succesful mining board projects.
I'm just inviting you EE team in a small competition for fun.
You chose to change the subject.... Why ?
Are you in or not
In the past? Your problems will be in the past when you refund my BTC1.34 that you stole from me.
Ya he has some gall eh?
The winner will be the community since the discounts require GPL designs going out that is the focus right? Just a note Marto you want to worry more about making your current customers happier as opposed to worrying about some sort of phony staged competition or race with us. We are not your competition.
Bick this here is a joke in return of you almost caling us scam in Zefir's coincraft tread.Our problems with customers are in the past.
And our small team of 3 people for design hw sw and production did already 7 succesful mining board projects.
I'm just inviting you EE team in a small competition for fun.
You chose to change the subject.... Why ?
Are you in or not
In the past? Your problems will be in the past when you refund my BTC1.34 that you stole from me.
Soooo
1-st of May passed.
I paid 540 USD for 5 sample chips
and no info ,no tracking, no communication at all
My account in blackarrow is removed
Is this SCAM
?
1-st of May passed.
I paid 540 USD for 5 sample chips
and no info ,no tracking, no communication at all
My account in blackarrow is removed
Is this SCAM
?Then no need to concern about layer & cooling yet until there is anyproof of sample availability LOL
woah 
Soooo
1-st of May passed.
I paid 540 USD for 5 sample chips
and no info ,no tracking, no communication at all
My account in blackarrow is removed
Is this SCAM?
tracking info received by e-mail
1-st of May passed.
I paid 540 USD for 5 sample chips
My account in blackarrow is removed
Is this SCAM
?tracking info received by e-mail
then again this would be laid out automatically with the cad software and I believe that is something requiring some pretty extensive modules in a CAD software something our team doesn't have.
While the power pins area can be autorouted (assuming that's what you meant), I'd just route the signal pins manually first. But yes, try to get more information.. more layers = more expensive, more chances of something going wrong, etc. via-in-pad is a whole 'nother world of hurt that's preferably avoided My biggest concern is cooling. Any thoughts on this ?
As with the chips you're already used to, vias to a plane on the other side, main cooling element there. You could see if the ground pins can be through-via'd to the other side (rather than to an internal layer, if used). The datasheet doesn't seem to mention power dissipation, so choice of cooling element (anodized at exposed areas) would probably have to come after you've got prototypes complete. Maybe @blackarrow can shed some more light on that, though ( tbh, given the chip has practically only a single purpose and scant few features are optional, I'm surprised to see no 'typical application and layout' section in the datasheet. Would certainly help get their chips to market on products. )
Yes exactly... the world of hurt is the issue really and anything that might cause higher fabrication error rates is something you must avoid given the price of a single chip. For us it will require our team to invest in more upgrades to Allegro. We are probably going to look at work to a certain point then have someone with the skills and tools to do that aspect. Be interesting, if you want to sit in our meeting, to bend our EE's ear on this as well TheRealSteve let me know I can PM you the details.
Cooling with these are less of problem than with the A1's that is for sure in terms it is not 70% 30% top and bottom. As time goes on these boards will all need some exotic cooling ala Allied Control / Asicminer farm in HK. I am hoping our Hammer Whiteface board will be tested in HK at Allied Control in a new 2 phase system they are designing... potentially from that prototype we could have a Minion Whiteface and "R" Whiteface will be dunked in some Novec but that is something everyone is going to have to move towards if they are going for increased density. Immersion cooling can save you a lot of money.
For sure the first test board will be with minimum layers.
The if this fails you can go to the next level.
There will be plenty of time for this during FW is written and debugged.
My biggest concern is cooling.
Any thoughts on this ?
The if this fails you can go to the next level.
There will be plenty of time for this during FW is written and debugged.
My biggest concern is cooling.
Any thoughts on this ?
They are going to use their massive air cooling solution for theirs, but I know CoolIT is very interested in getting involved, so if someone's board design would like to go that route, I can put them in touch with the right people
Also if someone in the US buys enough chips, I have BA's permission to deliver them by hand lol.
then again this would be laid out automatically with the cad software and I believe that is something requiring some pretty extensive modules in a CAD software something our team doesn't have.
While the power pins area can be autorouted (assuming that's what you meant), I'd just route the signal pins manually first. But yes, try to get more information.. more layers = more expensive, more chances of something going wrong, etc. via-in-pad is a whole 'nother world of hurt that's preferably avoided My biggest concern is cooling. Any thoughts on this ?
As with the chips you're already used to, vias to a plane on the other side, main cooling element there. You could see if the ground pins can be through-via'd to the other side (rather than to an internal layer, if used). The datasheet doesn't seem to mention power dissipation, so choice of cooling element (anodized at exposed areas) would probably have to come after you've got prototypes complete. Maybe @blackarrow can shed some more light on that, though ( tbh, given the chip has practically only a single purpose and scant few features are optional, I'm surprised to see no 'typical application and layout' section in the datasheet. Would certainly help get their chips to market on products. )
For sure the first test board will be with minimum layers.
The if this fails you can go to the next level.
There will be plenty of time for this during FW is written and debugged.
My biggest concern is cooling.
Any thoughts on this ?
The if this fails you can go to the next level.
There will be plenty of time for this during FW is written and debugged.
My biggest concern is cooling.
Any thoughts on this ?
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