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If you don't know, the forum is the one of the preferred places where mixers run their ads. With Sinbad been linked with laundering money for the North Korean Lazarus group, and forum members under investigation for receiving funds from a blacklisted address. What do you think would happen next? If Theymos was to fold his arms and watch, things could get worse and the forum could be shut down. With everything going on right now, it's best if the forum distances itself from mixers. It's a difficulty decision but it had to be made. If you think the admin was wrong and you won't respect it, then it's up to you. 
Topic: Mixers Signatures : A challenge or Respect (Read 606 times)
Why this new topic? Theymos already made everything crystal clear in his post on the mixer ban on the forum, anything campaign managers and their participants decide to do before the 31st of this month is their choice/decision, why are you concerned about it?
It is more than obvious to me why - he is not the only one trying to profit from this topic and get some merits. He (and everyone else) who have some doubts about questions concerning this topic could have asked those same questions in the main topic, but the irresistible desire to be OP is stronger from themselves.
Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
You are out of line by creating this thread, Theymos gave the campaign managers a grace period of one month out of respect for the campaign managers and the participants, he knows and understands that there is a contract and an obligation involved in running a signature campaign and by posting this you are disrespecting the campaign managers and the participants because you do not know how everything works in a signature campaign.
Anyone who's already enrolled in those signature campaigns should wear their signatures before 1st Jan 2024 and earn any possible revenue as they can from those signature campaigns. Theymos has taken the decision because there were many cases of mixers and that's why he didn't want the forum or its members to face any hard time from any authority. I guess banning of mixers is for the benefit of the forum.
I know that there are many good mixers on the forum that are doing great but in past many mixers have shown bad results and many were seized by the authorities due to the malpractices. Theymos allowed the good mixers and they signature campaigns to run for a whole month and that's more than enough. So during that time the ones who are already enrolled in those campaigns should grab the revenue that they generate from those campaigns and they should remove those signature codes from their profiles before 1st Jan 2024.
I know that there are many good mixers on the forum that are doing great but in past many mixers have shown bad results and many were seized by the authorities due to the malpractices. Theymos allowed the good mixers and they signature campaigns to run for a whole month and that's more than enough. So during that time the ones who are already enrolled in those campaigns should grab the revenue that they generate from those campaigns and they should remove those signature codes from their profiles before 1st Jan 2024.
Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
Just because you are still wearing the signature does not mean you do not have respect for Theymos' announcement, the participant is also respecting their obligation to their campaign manager and they are honoring it by continuously wearing the signature, what is disrespectful is still wearing or promoting mixers after the announcement date, I don't see it as disrespecting Theymos by not taking the signature out before the date.
Mixer signature campaigns aren't the only signature campaigns around. There are other more. Are you saying that removing mixer signatures will kill the ecosystem of the forum? Don't overreact. 
Without problems from mixers, theymos even considered to ban signature advertisements too. Signatures and signature advertisements were not here at beginning so the forum will not be killed even if all signatures are banned.It will not, but the traffic will reduce as users will be reduce in numbers as well. I think we have to be realistic here, one of the reasons that our forum got more popular is because of signature campaigns, so there's no reason removing or banning it, and I believe there was already a solution to that problem in the past by introducing the merit system.
We can't compare the discussion about sig camp and the recent news about mixers which the law might go after of those violators or the source of such. So it's understandable why we are in this situation now, but there's still time, we can brainstorm and maybe the forum would be able to come up with some good ideas that could change for the better, afterall, that's how forum should work.
What does this have to do with respecting forum decisions? If Thymos has given the validity period until the end of December, is it disrespectful to the forum to continue wearing the signature until then? . Come on!!!
If Thymos had wanted to stop the campaigns before that, he would have told everyone clearly about his decision!!!
I don't know what's the point of opening this topic in the first place. Everyone respects the forum and Thymos's decision and everything will be stopped before the start of the new year exactly as scheduled. What more do you want?
If Thymos had wanted to stop the campaigns before that, he would have told everyone clearly about his decision!!!
I don't know what's the point of opening this topic in the first place. Everyone respects the forum and Thymos's decision and everything will be stopped before the start of the new year exactly as scheduled. What more do you want?
Thymos gave us a chance to wear it till 31 dec and the rules will be implemented from 1jan for no one is violating any rules here. If wearing the signature until 31dec let you think that its a challenge and if not wearing it respect then it is up to you. Many people depend on the signature so they are not thinking about any challenges or respect here.
No banning of discussing Bitcoin services.
We can discuss gay porn, and porn in general, but we can't discuss a Bitcoin service?
Come to think of it, you're right. It's just sad we don't know what the outcome of theymos' directive will be going forward or if he was pressured into taking such a decision. This is Bitcointalk, a forum that prides itself on discussing issues related to bitcoin and its decentralized and anonymous nature. Mixers tend to capture that nature.We can discuss gay porn, and porn in general, but we can't discuss a Bitcoin service?
I will also do some more donations to the links above.
Frankly, I feel touched by your level of philanthropy and wish the ban on mixers here didn't happen. No doubt, I know you will get another campaign as a quality poster that you're but it seems mixer campaigns are the highest paying ones and can easily allow you cover more donations. It takes a person of great mind to give to others. Ride on! 
Well, we all know that Mixers Signatures will be ended by 1st Jan 2024. There are new rules being imposed regarding promoting mixers on this forum.
Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
I was prepaid six months and I sent back almost all that coin to tumbler
I wont reveal my loss but it was over 500 a month for six months.
I sent more than have the coin back my loss was in the thousands.
I could send the small amount back and stop this signature.
But my position is mixers are a tool a hammer is a tool a chainsaw is a tool.
tools can be good or bad.
I used my signature funds to donate to three forum members. and to a mempool tracker
talk img developer see thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/talkimgcom-image-hosting-for-bitcointalk-5450546
mempool info developer see link https://mempool.jhoenicke.de/#BTC,24h,weight
history of btc author see thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/book-the-bitcoin-history-book-2008-2024-progress-report-update-04122023-5469588
difficulty prediction give away. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5431167
I will continue to run this signature until dec 31
unless theymos pms me or posts me to end it.
I will also do some more donations to the links above.
We as the citizens of planet earth promise you to milk every possible signature revenue to the last milliseconds allowed and will not forfeit our rights. 😂
That comment of yours sent me rolling on the floor. But of course, milk all possibilities oh thee citizen of planet earth 😂Me as well hahahaha this is so great. Milk whatever you can out of it for as long as possible. But the good thing about this is that there are plenty of campaigns that aren't mixers that are just gambling sites that can be used, like the one shown below
We don't have to repeat this anymore and already the post has been pinned and anyone who is wearing mixers should be able to remain submissive to the forum as theymos has given instructions, before 1 January 2024 and if your signature still exist then you are likely to get ban because it was given a grace of 4 weeks without immediately shorting down all operation of mixers so this duration is enough for you to decide to remove it or not. Removing it before the due date shows a solid respect to the forum and only to Theymos but also for the love we shares commonly on the forum so whatever theymos says should be obeyed and honored.
Well, we all know that Mixers Signatures will be ended by 1st Jan 2024. There are new rules being imposed regarding promoting mixers on this forum.
Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
This forum have controller and theymos is the existing controller of the forum, so I believe that no signature campaign or participants will disobey the order of theymos, by January first as it instructed many people who is promoting mixer will remove their avatar, remember theymos said in January if you post on behalf of mixer by January you will get ban but the post you make this year 2023 with mixers promotion will not lead you to ban. So their is no authority that is higher than theymos and what he did is right because he wants the interest of the forum. Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
You aren't part of sig campaigns so would you've resigned from if you were earning each week?
If theymos hasn't called for it why're you questioning his decision. There isn't legal pressure on him to take this step or else it would've halted immediately. He's given a grace period to unwind. You could've asked in the same topic. You've started a topic on something it doesn't deserve discussion.
If theymos hasn't called for it why're you questioning his decision. There isn't legal pressure on him to take this step or else it would've halted immediately. He's given a grace period to unwind. You could've asked in the same topic. You've started a topic on something it doesn't deserve discussion.
Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible
To avoid disruption, there will be a grace period: Nothing will change until Jan 1, 2024.
No one is getting tagged fraudulent or banned or getting a negative trust rating for still having a Mixer signature. It does not violate forum policy nor rules and it isn't a thing of crime in the real world, why would one do away with his signature?
I see no reason why grace period should not be 'enjoyed' till its over. Anyone can continue with his signature campaign till the time appointed to get it stopped
I see no reason why grace period should not be 'enjoyed' till its over. Anyone can continue with his signature campaign till the time appointed to get it stopped
Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
I believe the decision might be in agreement or disagreement with that of theymos before anyone could decide it.The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
If I agree with him, that's when I can be thinking of letting the signature go even before the stipulated time. And by agreeing with him, I must have had my displeasure on the campaign too that made me not want to have anything to do with such a signature again. You know we people think differently and have different integrity. But for me, I would most likely have dropped the signature immediately, though I judge no one as there's still a grace when all must drop it, so if their conscience doesn't prick them, they are free to continue to wear it until forced to drop it.
But those whose view doesn't align with that of theymos, of course, will keep it until the 1st of January, 2024 when the system will render it useless.
Mixer campaigns might be popular, but they're not the only fish in the sea. People make it sound like banning Mixer sigs will totally wreck the forum ecosystem. That seems pretty overdramatic. Heck, even now there's more non-mixer signatures than mixer stuff. I'd bet my bottom dollar folks will keep on advertising in signatures and well probably see more instant exchange services, decentralized exchanges, and stuff like that advertised instead. Banning one thing doesn't get rid of people's drive to promote their biz. It just redirects things a bit.
This has nothing to do with forum economy, I don't give a single sat if there is no economy at all, only God provides.Nobody is going to actually die even if this forum is shut down.
The whole point is to fight against oppression, whether theymos or governments, what is important is to know where people draw the line to fight or back down.
We are asking nothing out of the norms, just tell us how are you going to moderate such a forum? Read the first post in the announcement thread, tell me how is that even possible to moderate?
Not to mention, he is now violating his own country's laws by doing this, so what kind of a community are we? When the admin doesn't obey US laws just in fear of unknown implications in the future? Are we going to break the rules to show that we are obedient to the rules?
Edit: lol I posted in a wrong thread.😂
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
This decision will of course come down to the platform developer and campaign manager. so there will be discussions taking place. especially for those who have deposited funds in escrow. whether to continue or have to stop immediately and return the funds that have been in escrow.
It's certainly a difficult decision to make. but the forum had already decided before the forum could be found guilty because it was said to be supporting problematic mixing. because when a mixer has a problem and is stopped, it doesn't take long for there to be a new mixer.
Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
There is no point having to fast forward a rule that has been by designed to have its effect kicked off on the first of January. It’s clearly written on the news field and has got an active thread for it. I get it that, time zones might be different but, forum time stays UTC which would count towards this action and I see most of the users promoting a mixer at the time to be some of the smart ones in the forum, highly concerned with the safety and integrity of their user to note be conscious enough knowing the risk involved.I would also hope to see some notifications be sent out by forum administrators to concerned users as well as managers in the event that they get carried away by the festivity and I see the forum playing some rule in having some of these threads archived amongst other means of repose.
Until the appointed time draws near, there isn’t a need to hasten up what would be. Who knows, we could have a change to the decision!
Mixer campaigns might be popular, but they're not the only fish in the sea. People make it sound like banning Mixer sigs will totally wreck the forum ecosystem. That seems pretty overdramatic. Heck, even now there's more non-mixer signatures than mixer stuff. I'd bet my bottom dollar folks will keep on advertising in signatures and well probably see more instant exchange services, decentralized exchanges, and stuff like that advertised instead. Banning one thing doesn't get rid of people's drive to promote their biz. It just redirects things a bit.
Mixer signature campaigns aren't the only signature campaigns around. There are other more. Are you saying that removing mixer signatures will kill the ecosystem of the forum? Don't overreact.
Without problems from mixers, theymos even considered to ban signature advertisements too. Signatures and signature advertisements were not here at beginning so the forum will not be killed even if all signatures are banned.Signature advertisers: suggestions?
Ideas for improving post quality?
Honestly, I find signature advertisements distasteful, and it is not impossible that I will someday ban the practice. However, it's obviously an important part of the forum ecosystem today. So if you use signatures for advertising, what are your suggestions for forum improvements in that area?
For example, one idea I had was to allow users to subscribe to campaigns that other users set up, and then the campaigner could automatically push signature updates to everyone subscribed, and also track exactly when and for how long each user was subscribed. Would this be significantly useful? I'm not all that familiar with how these signature campaigns work, so I'm not sure.
However: the forum will never intermediate these transactions. We will not touch the money involved or perform any sort of "screening", etc. Also, I have no particular desire for the forum to take a cut of sig-ad transactions.
(I'm probably not going to implement anything in this area very soon, but the matter has been on my mind lately, and I wanted to see what people thought.)
For example, one idea I had was to allow users to subscribe to campaigns that other users set up, and then the campaigner could automatically push signature updates to everyone subscribed, and also track exactly when and for how long each user was subscribed. Would this be significantly useful? I'm not all that familiar with how these signature campaigns work, so I'm not sure.
However: the forum will never intermediate these transactions. We will not touch the money involved or perform any sort of "screening", etc. Also, I have no particular desire for the forum to take a cut of sig-ad transactions.
(I'm probably not going to implement anything in this area very soon, but the matter has been on my mind lately, and I wanted to see what people thought.)
What are everyone's ideas for improving post quality?
I have mostly ruled out:
- Removing signatures or sig ads globally.
- Requiring payment to wear sig ads.
- Banning account sales.
A couple of ideas that have been floating around in my head:
1. To attain ranks above Member, you'd have to earn some number of merit points. Merit points would be awarded in a monthly vote on best posts of the previous month, with various measures (TBD) to prevent gaming of the vote. Winning merit points might also come with a BTC prize.
2. Create or designate some sections as "serious discussion" sections, with no signatures. In those sections or maybe in different ones, also have poster restrictions such as Member rank or above only. And/or allow topic-creators to set these restrictions on their topics, similar to selfmod topics.
What do you think of these ideas, and what other ideas do people have?
I have mostly ruled out:
- Removing signatures or sig ads globally.
- Requiring payment to wear sig ads.
- Banning account sales.
A couple of ideas that have been floating around in my head:
1. To attain ranks above Member, you'd have to earn some number of merit points. Merit points would be awarded in a monthly vote on best posts of the previous month, with various measures (TBD) to prevent gaming of the vote. Winning merit points might also come with a BTC prize.
2. Create or designate some sections as "serious discussion" sections, with no signatures. In those sections or maybe in different ones, also have poster restrictions such as Member rank or above only. And/or allow topic-creators to set these restrictions on their topics, similar to selfmod topics.
What do you think of these ideas, and what other ideas do people have?
That's probably why they are crying about all of this because some of these mixer signature campaigns have a really good pay and some of them are in those campaigns so it's difficult for them to depart from those campaigns especially that were there from the start so some of they might've grown attached to them or they just want the consistent good pay.
Its not that they are crying. Some believed in the worth of having mixers too for the purpose of privacy but that cant help in the ongoing cracked down isnt it. Too sad that some of these mixers will not be promoted anymore hence for the users that legally using it. Anyway forum will thrive and theymos probably just following whats he thinks right. 
This solution is incredibly stupid. This will kill the entire forum ecosystem 
Mixer signature campaigns aren't the only signature campaigns around. There are other more. Are you saying that removing mixer signatures will kill the ecosystem of the forum? Don't overreact. There are already some users here who are applying for other campaigns that aren't a mixer. I don't know the reason though because they can still wear it until the 31st. Maybe they're afraid that by next year, there will be no more open spots thus, they are applying as early as now. I will not be surprised if, by next year, more campaigns that aren't a mixer will emerge, but for now, they can still advertise it until the end of the year.
On the other hand, there will be some that will milk them until they (mixer owners) themselves will just stop their campaigns.
We as the citizens of planet earth promise you to milk every possible signature revenue to the last milliseconds allowed and will not forfeit our rights. 😂
That's probably why they are crying about all of this because some of these mixer signature campaigns have a really good pay and some of them are in those campaigns so it's difficult for them to depart from those campaigns especially that were there from the start so some of they might've grown attached to them or they just want the consistent good pay. Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
There is nothing wrong is wearing the signature and promoting the service till the last day as allowed by theymos. If it was too urgent, he would have stopped everything immediately (Like he put the Sinbad to Archival). Nothing to be hurry or getting panic.
Also i think that people will be started finding spots in other non-mixers campaigns and most of them will be moving to the other campaigns as they get accepted while the rest of them will obviously be leaving by the end of this month.
This solution is incredibly stupid. This will kill the entire forum ecosystem
Hardly. There's obviously a lot of butt-hurt and other signature campaigns will get more competitive; as a result some of the people who are only here to shitpost for a campaign will leave. If anything this will lead to an overall increase in the quality of posts on the forum.
I rather all signatures be disabled globally, no links allowed, but never see a Bitcoin service banned. No banning of discussing Bitcoin services.
We can discuss gay porn, and porn in general, but we can't discuss a Bitcoin service? Welcome to new north korea.
We can discuss gay porn, and porn in general, but we can't discuss a Bitcoin service? Welcome to new north korea.
He's not banning discussion of mixing services, only advertisement of them. I suspect you know this already but this is a pre-emptive measure to ensure that the forum itself doesn't get taken down. As a repository for Satoshi's writings, the forum is bigger than all of us. Theymos is simply trying to get one step ahead of the curve here.
We still have the last day of this year to wear signatures if we want.
All of us here are bound by the forum rules, and the recent announcement by Theymos will be implemented. Thus, we have no choice but to follow the orders. As you can see, some of us are wearing Mixer signatures, so I'll presume that most will continue until the last day allowed.
I'll take this opportunity to express gratitude to Mixers; they've been here to promote anonymity and privacy (through us), even though, in the end, the government prevailed. Theymos's decision is understandable, it serves as a preventive measure. If Bitcointalk were linked to Mixers, it could lead to unfavorable consequences, potentially even risking a ban on our beloved forum. So, let's follow the rules and support each other here.
Sayonara mixers -
All of us here are bound by the forum rules, and the recent announcement by Theymos will be implemented. Thus, we have no choice but to follow the orders. As you can see, some of us are wearing Mixer signatures, so I'll presume that most will continue until the last day allowed.
I'll take this opportunity to express gratitude to Mixers; they've been here to promote anonymity and privacy (through us), even though, in the end, the government prevailed. Theymos's decision is understandable, it serves as a preventive measure. If Bitcointalk were linked to Mixers, it could lead to unfavorable consequences, potentially even risking a ban on our beloved forum. So, let's follow the rules and support each other here.
Sayonara mixers -
I rather all signatures be disabled globally, no links allowed, but never see a Bitcoin service banned. No banning of discussing Bitcoin services.
We can discuss gay porn, and porn in general, but we can't discuss a Bitcoin service? Welcome to new north korea.
We can discuss gay porn, and porn in general, but we can't discuss a Bitcoin service? Welcome to new north korea.
We as the citizens of planet earth promise you to milk every possible signature revenue to the last milliseconds allowed and will not forfeit our rights. 😂
Yes, this one, I mean carry the signature up to the last minutes, campaign managers pay them, campaign managers gets their last salary and every body went on their way and apply if there is a open signature campaigns.
It's not like the end for those who are wearing mixers signatures now.
So there's no challenge here, Theymos makes it clear as what they have to do next.
Well, we all know that Mixers Signatures will be ended by 1st Jan 2024. There are new rules being imposed regarding promoting mixers on this forum.
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The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
You have asked a good question and the answer is straight I will try to earn every penny I can until our campaign managers tell us not to. Actually, Sinbad has been called so many times before this case opening, that it is being involved in money laundering, I read about its case around 2 months ago and from then I did not applied to this campaign, even though I have submitted my POA maybe 1 or 2 times but that's when I thought there is no confirmation (solid one) there as if the government would have solid proof two months ago they would have seized it then not now.-snip-
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
AFAIK, most of the campaigns on BTT are about Mixers and this technology is really good and we all should use it for better use cases (I think before 1 Jan we can talk about Mixers but theymos has restricted us to). All I am trying to say is, that there should be no bad use of it and if one is caught doing it, a quick reaction should be taken against it.
This way the fear among others will be placed and they will avoid such mistakes to Launder money. But the overall decision is hard to bear but it is what it is, Theymos has left no other choice for us and the situation has left none for him I think.
This solution is incredibly stupid. This will kill the entire forum ecosystem
Many people said the same when Merit system was first introduced, but it didn't create problems but made things better and easier for everyone and the forum as well. Bear in mind that such decisions are not taken just like that, there are a lot of things that we don't know or realize, and someone who is in charge of everything will know more and he must be keeping a lot of things in the background just to keep us safe or avoid spreading panic all around.
Changes come and go, things evolve, but nothing stops, the world keeps going and things start to look normal after a little while.
This solution is incredibly stupid. This will kill the entire forum ecosystem
Incoming mixer ban certainly sucks big time, but let's not overdramatize it. If signature campaigns (and altcoin bounties) were banned alltogether, then I would say that you are right and that forum is pretty much done but at the moment that's not the case.
This solution is incredibly stupid. This will kill the entire forum ecosystem
We as the citizens of planet earth promise you to milk every possible signature revenue to the last milliseconds allowed and will not forfeit our rights. 😂
This is a good one.No need to panic now. Even though the members can do whatever they please by removing the avatar, they should wait for the managers who I believe will have the announcement coming out soon.
If you are uncomfortable then remove it right now. If you are not then remove it after the grace period ends. It's up to you. And theymos already stated that, mixers are not illegal but to prevent future problems he has taken this hard decision.
OP, you should lock this thread and go to the thread created by theymos. You'll find all your answers there.
OP, you should lock this thread and go to the thread created by theymos. You'll find all your answers there.
Now we still have the freedom to wear mixer signatures until the deadline (Jan. 1, 2024) and of course we will do our duty until the manager announces the end of the mixer campaign.
I'm sure the manager will make the announcement as soon as this week ends.
I'm sure the manager will make the announcement as soon as this week ends.
I believe respecting the forum's decisions is crucial, while the temptation to maximize earnings is understandable. I think it would be wise for campaign managers to announce this week as the last one to wind up things, aligning with Theymos' decision to portray a sense of responsibility towards the community guidelines.
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There's no need to remove them now but I'm sure most campaign managers will start to wind them down immediately and probably stop them before the deadline rather than leave the campaigns running right up until the last minute.
We as the citizens of planet earth promise you to milk every possible signature revenue to the last milliseconds allowed and will not forfeit our rights. 😂
That comment of yours sent me rolling on the floor. But of course, milk all possibilities oh thee citizen of planet earth 😂
We as the citizens of planet earth promise you to milk every possible signature revenue to the last milliseconds allowed and will not forfeit our rights. 😂
OP, What the hell is this even? 
It's the whole point of the grace period, and it all comes to personal choice. If the mixers were completely illegal, like the way trading drugs or trafficking arms is, then there would be no need for a grace period and people would have to remove the signatures immediately.
It has nothing to do with respect...lol.
It's the whole point of the grace period, and it all comes to personal choice. If the mixers were completely illegal, like the way trading drugs or trafficking arms is, then there would be no need for a grace period and people would have to remove the signatures immediately.
It has nothing to do with respect...lol.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
If the campaign managers do not announce ending of signature campaign until 31st of December, they still not disobey theymos and not that they disagree because theymos gives the deadline to be until 1st of January. Not that mixers are said to be illegal, but because of what is going on and how they are linked to illegal activities, theymos do not want us to advertise mixers on this forum anymore 
If, in any case, I was in the shoes of the campaign manager, then I would announce it on the thread after paying for the previous week, but still on, still, I will continue the signature campaign until the last week of December (this month) before I stop it.
These new rules will affect so many mixers on the forum as they will not be on the forum anymore, but honestly speaking, we have to keep to the rules of the forum, because that's what really matters, if, in any case, something happens to the forum (whereby the forum is no more), both the mixers and the casinos here will short down for sometimes, so for the forum to close, and the both advertising company (mixer and casino to short down), it is better to let one go, so one can continue.
I did not see the new rules in favor of just one person, but for all of us that are here, so it will be better to keep them active.
These new rules will affect so many mixers on the forum as they will not be on the forum anymore, but honestly speaking, we have to keep to the rules of the forum, because that's what really matters, if, in any case, something happens to the forum (whereby the forum is no more), both the mixers and the casinos here will short down for sometimes, so for the forum to close, and the both advertising company (mixer and casino to short down), it is better to let one go, so one can continue.
I did not see the new rules in favor of just one person, but for all of us that are here, so it will be better to keep them active.
Why this new topic? Theymos already made everything crystal clear in his post on the mixer ban on the forum, anything campaign managers and their participants decide to do before the 31st of this month is their choice/decision, why are you concerned about it?
Then why it feels wrong to wear it until December 31? they're still obey with the rules.
Why would someone forfeit BTC now for something that will take place in the future? theymos already said it's not necessarily about legality, so anyone currently wearing a signature promoting a mixer should do so until they no longer can.
Well, we all know that Mixers Signatures will be ended by 1st Jan 2024. There are new rules being imposed regarding promoting mixers on this forum.
Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
Well, Theymos has given a grace period of one month, to wind up all these things including signature campaigns. Now the question comes whether we show respect to the theymos decision and remove our signatures as soon as possible for everyone benefit and to show that we respect the forum decisions or will you people will keep wearing the signatures till 31 December so that you earn every penny you can. Also it means that most users are not willing to let go mixers signatures as they keep them till the last seconds.
The same challenge goes to the campaign managers to announce this or this current week as the last one to wind up things (in favor and agreeing to theymos) or still be willing to go till the last week of December
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