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This Friday there will be Bellator 281.



This event will be interesting due to two fight. Michael Page vs Logan Storley. I am not familiar with Storley, but I am sure everyone knows Page. And Lyoto Machida (former lightheavy weight UFC champ) vs. Fabian Edwards (just a meat with two losses in last two fights).

I think a bet on Machida will be an easy money.
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I placed a bet on Cheick Kongo like I said I would but he lost by decision from Ryan Bader  and he remained heavyweight champion in Bellator.
Maybe I expected to much from Kongo in from on French crowd, but he was not defeated with some KO or TKO.
It was much easier job for Yoel Romero who made a statement with KO in third round against Alex Polizzi.
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^  Love them or hate them all we should care about is that the fighters throw leather and for the UFC to put up good match ups for us to put some action on.  The day that stops happening is the day the UFC starts losing its competitive edge.  It's just too bad there's no MMA organization that comes close to the UFC and really compete vs the UFC.  Dana White is setting the bar up for everybody else.

I wouldn't necessarily agree that no one comes close. If we take the whole of the UFC fights, a ton of them are no different than Bellator fights, and ONE has some great events and fights with overall excellent production quality. I get what you are saying, but it's just we are conditioned to value the UFC more due to their longevity and just the sheer amount of fights they put out (and I personally have a bunch of issues with that).

Oh c'mon...  Lol.  The UFC's roster has better fighters and guys who are at the top of the game.  I won't even argue about it even after anybody replies to this post.  Bellator is the B league.  Kinda like the Championship division in English football.  But I get it, outside the top 20 a lot of the matches sometimes get sketchy.

And judging from optics alone I think ONE is a lot more fun to watch than Bellator imho.  The guys over there are faster and more intent to KO the other guy for some reason.

Edit:  Looking at the lines rn.  Surprisingly Bellator 280 matches are a lot closer based on the odds.

That was not the matter of the discussion. I do agree that at the top the fighters are better in the UFC than in any other organization, but when it comes to the fights themselves, outside of the top 3 on a card, most will look and feel like any other fights from any other organization. This is not an argument here, just my opinion and maybe Bellator is not the best comparison here as it was war long since Bellator was surpassed by other organisations (PFL and ONE)
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UFC is treating their fighters like shit, they don't allow them to have their own sponsors, or to fight with boxers if they want, and more fighters are now having courage to say that in public, like Tony Ferguson did few days ago, or Francis Ngannou before him.
It is true that the UFC fighters are not allowed to wear their own sponsors during the fight night but apart from that they can promote them at will,  Not heard what Tony Ferguson said about the payment but Francis Ngannou knows very well that if UFC let him go that he wont be getting the same payment anywhere else. He is dreaming about a boxing event against one of the greatest boxers in Tyson Fury and for that Dana White is not letting him do that because that will harm the UFC brand if he looks foolish boxing against Tyson Fury.

Why do you think some of the best fighters like Cris Cyborg left UFC and signed for Bellator, than you have Patricio Pitbull and arguably one of the best fighter and legend Fedor Emelianenko is in Bealltor and he never signed for UFC.
Overall UFC probably have more quality fighters, but many champions in other organizations can fight equally with champions from UFC.
Cris Cyborg left because she felt she is disrespected in the UFC. There is a reason Fedor Emelianenko did not sign with the UFC, his demands of co promotion with the UFC was not accepted by Dana White. I do accept that Bellator has some talented fighters and i would like to see a cross promotion mega event once a year which would be awesome
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Oh c'mon...  Lol.  The UFC's roster has better fighters and guys who are at the top of the game.  I won't even argue about it even after anybody replies to this post.  Bellator is the B league.  Kinda like the Championship division in English football.  But I get it, outside the top 20 a lot of the matches sometimes get sketchy.
UFC is treating their fighters like shit, they don't allow them to have their own sponsors, or to fight with boxers if they want, and more fighters are now having courage to say that in public, like Tony Ferguson did few days ago, or Francis Ngannou before him.
Why do you think some of the best fighters like Cris Cyborg left UFC and signed for Bellator, than you have Patricio Pitbull and arguably one of the best fighter and legend Fedor Emelianenko is in Bealltor and he never signed for UFC.
Overall UFC probably have more quality fighters, but many champions in other organizations can fight equally with champions from UFC.
Take a look at Bellator rankings: https://www.bellator.com/ranking
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^  Love them or hate them all we should care about is that the fighters throw leather and for the UFC to put up good match ups for us to put some action on.  The day that stops happening is the day the UFC starts losing its competitive edge.  It's just too bad there's no MMA organization that comes close to the UFC and really compete vs the UFC.  Dana White is setting the bar up for everybody else.

I wouldn't necessarily agree that no one comes close. If we take the whole of the UFC fights, a ton of them are no different than Bellator fights, and ONE has some great events and fights with overall excellent production quality. I get what you are saying, but it's just we are conditioned to value the UFC more due to their longevity and just the sheer amount of fights they put out (and I personally have a bunch of issues with that).

Oh c'mon...  Lol.  The UFC's roster has better fighters and guys who are at the top of the game.  I won't even argue about it even after anybody replies to this post.  Bellator is the B league.  Kinda like the Championship division in English football.  But I get it, outside the top 20 a lot of the matches sometimes get sketchy.

And judging from optics alone I think ONE is a lot more fun to watch than Bellator imho.  The guys over there are faster and more intent to KO the other guy for some reason.

Edit:  Looking at the lines rn.  Surprisingly Bellator 280 matches are a lot closer based on the odds.
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Interesting PFL event is starting tomorrow with ladies main event Kayla Harrison vs Marina Mokhnatkina in United States vs Russia classic.
Harrison is huge favorite and she is in front of home crowd in Arlington, Texas so it would be miracle is she loses this fight.
One more fight I would follow is Anthony Pettis vs Myles Price, this is another chance for Pettis to win after losing last two fights in 2021.


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Btw, I cant remember Bader to be among heavyweights, when he was in UFC, but Kongo sure was in that weight division. Now Bader is a heavyweight in Bellator, but his body did not change much. Either he cut a lot during UFC, or he is not a natural heavyweight as Kongo. If Kongo has weight advantage, his chances can be better than 3.3 odd Cheesy
Bader was fighting in Light Heavyweight category in UFC, but many fighters are going one category up as they get older.
They are getting more heavy and it is harder to cut weight, and for heavyweight category you don't have to worry about that. 
For Cheick Kongo this will be last chance to win title and I think he can do it with good tactics and surprise Bader.

Actually, not just the UFC, but also Bellator. When Bader first got signed he won the LHW belt and even defended the title sucesfully and has been switching back and forth. Bader had a much easier transition to HW because he didn't lose much of his speed and agility (probably due to the fact that he stays at the bottom end of what would be acceptable for the weight class) but he also gained some power that helped him handle the big guys.
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Btw, I cant remember Bader to be among heavyweights, when he was in UFC, but Kongo sure was in that weight division. Now Bader is a heavyweight in Bellator, but his body did not change much. Either he cut a lot during UFC, or he is not a natural heavyweight as Kongo. If Kongo has weight advantage, his chances can be better than 3.3 odd Cheesy
Bader was fighting in Light Heavyweight category in UFC, but many fighters are going one category up as they get older.
They are getting more heavy and it is harder to cut weight, and for heavyweight category you don't have to worry about that. 
For Cheick Kongo this will be last chance to win title and I think he can do it with good tactics and surprise Bader.
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Btw, I cant remember Bader to be among heavyweights, when he was in UFC, but Kongo sure was in that weight division. Now Bader is a heavyweight in Bellator, but his body did not change much. Either he cut a lot during UFC, or he is not a natural heavyweight as Kongo. If Kongo has weight advantage, his chances can be better than 3.3 odd Cheesy

I expect an easy win (even though it will go full distance probably) for Romero. Really dont know who Polezzi is.
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Will you make a bet then, as Kongo is a huge underdog in this fight. Odds are 3.3 right now. If we put aside fighting experience, I would say that Kongo is old. He will be 47 in two weeks. No doubt, he is in good shape for 46. But it will extremely hard to become a champion at such an age.
Yes I saw the odds and I can't believe they made Bader such a big favorite in this fight.
Kongo has big reach advantage and I think he is more heavy and taller than Bader, he has only one defeat in last 11 fights, and only disadvantage is that he is older fighter.
Sure I am going to make one small bet on Kongo to win, maybe a combo bet with Romero to win.
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I am giving advantage to Cheick Kongo in main event, who should have more support from his home fans.

Will you make a bet then, as Kongo is a huge underdog in this fight. Odds are 3.3 right now. If we put aside fighting experience, I would say that Kongo is old. He will be 47 in two weeks. No doubt, he is in good shape for 46. But it will extremely hard to become a champion at such an age.

Kongo last fights: against an old Sergei Kharitonov, who talks more than fights (I follow Russian social media for MMA, he really talks a lot, and claim to expert in everything and is ready to rip everyone). Split victory over Timothy Johnson, who is not really a top. And no contest with Bader. I expect that Bader either win by TKO in round 2 or 3, or by decision, Kongo will give him a competitive first round, in that I am quite sure.
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This should be very interesting week for MMA fans, and Bellator is back with Bealltor 280 heavyweight championship main event Ryan Baderr vs Cheick Kongo!
Co-main event is equally interesting with Yoel Romero and unknown fighter Alex Polizzi that has only one defeat in his MMA carrier.
There are a lot of fighter from France on this card because event is held in city of Paris Accor Arena.
I am giving advantage to Cheick Kongo in main event, who should have more support from his home fans.


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^  Love them or hate them all we should care about is that the fighters throw leather and for the UFC to put up good match ups for us to put some action on.  The day that stops happening is the day the UFC starts losing its competitive edge.  It's just too bad there's no MMA organization that comes close to the UFC and really compete vs the UFC.  Dana White is setting the bar up for everybody else.

I wouldn't necessarily agree that no one comes close. If we take the whole of the UFC fights, a ton of them are no different than Bellator fights, and ONE has some great events and fights with overall excellent production quality. I get what you are saying, but it's just we are conditioned to value the UFC more due to their longevity and just the sheer amount of fights they put out (and I personally have a bunch of issues with that).
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Easy win for Bruno Cappelozza in first round with KO round and pound, and other heavyweight fight finished in similar fashion with Ante Delija winning against Matheus Scheffel with a KO in second round.
This was interesting event and you can watch in now for free on PFL youtube channel, almost five hours of MMA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAF02G9QGIg
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^  Love them or hate them all we should care about is that the fighters throw leather and for the UFC to put up good match ups for us to put some action on.  The day that stops happening is the day the UFC starts losing its competitive edge.  It's just too bad there's no MMA organization that comes close to the UFC and really compete vs the UFC.  Dana White is setting the bar up for everybody else.
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Do you happen to know, if Bellator, One, PFL or other promotions has contracts with any crypto? Like crypto.com with UFC, gambling casino stake with Adesanya and etc.
I didn't hear about something like this, but I know individual fighters are allowed to have contracts with any sponsors they want in all other MMA competitions outside UFC.

Hard to believe in this, as UFC likes to monopolize or control everything. Recently I've seen a post here, where Francis Ngannou could have signed a contract with Coinbase, but since UFC has signed contract with crypto.com, Ngannou has lost 1 million. If not mistaken, many UFC fighters have lost a lot of sponsorship contracts, when UFC signed contract with Reebok. I think you remember how cool looked all these bad boy and venum shorts, cool DeathClutch t-shirts with skulls. Now everyone are forced to wear boring Reebok costumes.
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Do you happen to know, if Bellator, One, PFL or other promotions has contracts with any crypto? Like crypto.com with UFC, gambling casino stake with Adesanya and etc.
I didn't hear about something like this, but I know individual fighters are allowed to have contracts with any sponsors they want in all other MMA competitions outside UFC.

PFL event is kicking off in few hours with great main event fight in heavyweight category between Bruno Cappelozza and Stuart Austin.
MMA fans should start watching prelims with some great fight like Ante Delija who is training with legendary Mirko Crocop, and he is fighting with Matheus Scheffel.
Both Cappelozza and Delija are heavy favorites and odds for them are very low, but surprises are always possible in MMA sport.


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What is the difference, despite there is one extra fight on wiki (Davy Gallon vs. Benjamin Brander) ? Both wiki and tapology differ from Bellators card Grin There is no Lorenzo Larkin vs Kyle Steward fight, which makes wiki more close to original Cheesy

Favorites are almost always really favorites and win the match.

That is a disadvantage Cheesy As a chance of "wtf was that?" and upset is low. That make whole rooster less competitive, when you that this guy definitely gonna win that guy. This turns Bellator to boxing heavyweight, when there were Tyson Fury era, Klitschko era, Mike Tyson era and etc.
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Dont forget, that on May 6 there will be Bellator 280.



Why is it worth watching? There are two reasons. Title fight between Ryan Bader and Cheick Kongo. Both are from UFC, where both showed good results. This is going to be their second fight, as first fight ended by no contest after an eye poke. Second reason - ageless Romero will face Manhoef, who usually shows an impressive performance.

And you can find the rest of the card on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellator_280.

Yeah, it should be worth watching.  It's good cos the UFC is happening the next day.  Smiley  And I prefer Bellator instead of LFA which is usually shown at the same time.  And Bellator usually gives easy parlay pieces as the fights at the lower level are usually mismatched.  Favorites are almost always really favorites and win the match.  Unlike in the UFC where there's a lot of parlay pie shitters.  Lol.

Anyway use this instead if Wiki.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/86506-bellator-paris-bader-vs-kongo-2
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