Moderator help my bitcointalk account have been hacked

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Quote from: Piesel Alt on January 24, 2023, 11:54:28 AM

Also below is the signed message i sent to moderator email.

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Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
24-01-2024 
Signing this message to prove the ownership of account piesel that was hacked in the last 24-48 hours ago
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: bc1q22ssr8r5rxtjh4wqaj8kj8rtvwudngd7p8qq7v

H4qGrqKStOPB9AZ5YaIUwq6f8yQyfwVbkzEbaklRqgSCPWtatrC7q1vN3YGxLeEwhuLJ3K1GLxGcAagplA0E8ec=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

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Piesel Alt

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Quote from: Piesel Alt on January 24, 2023, 09:23:36 AM

Quote from: hosseinimr93 on January 24, 2023, 09:11:22 AM

@Piesel Alt
I can't verify your message. http://What software do you use for signing message?

I used mycelium wallet to sign the messages
https://i.ibb.co/FJyncyq/IMG-20230123-WA0000.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/k51KrY3/IMG-20230124-WA0000.jpg
goodwill chico

For obvious reasons i don't know why my signed messages are not verifiable by some members and clarity sake i will like to inform members here that i use mycelium wallet to sign the messaseg but verified both mycelium and electron as posted comment.

Also below is the signed message i sent to moderator email.
https://i.ibb.co/JKt5rR9/Screenshot-2023-0124-174802.png
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Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
24-01-2024 
Signing this message to prove the ownership of account piesel that was hacked in the last 24-48 hours ago
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: bc1q22ssr8r5rxtjh4wqaj8kj8rtvwudngd7p8qq7v

H4qGrqKStOPB9AZ5YaIUwq6f8yQyfwVbkzEbaklRqgSCPWtatrC7q1vN3YGxLeEwhuLJ3K1GLxGcAagplA0E8ec=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

Please higher rank member quote the comment before i lock the thread.
Thank you all for the replies let moderators do the rest.
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Smartvirus
Or any higher rank member due to my forum rank the image can not display.
Please quote this comment should incase the signed message is not verifiable by some members

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Quote from: sujonali1819 on January 23, 2023, 10:35:34 AM

Quote from: Piesel Alt on January 23, 2023, 10:15:48 AM

I noticed an unusual activities on my account Piesel yesterday when i tried to log in, my account password have been charged and the hacker made a post in the football transfer speculation thread in gambling section immediately after he gain access.

It's a matter of a few hours. So How can we understand that you are not that hacker and making drama? (don't mind please)

So the drama is already started what I have guessed at the beginning. Now it's really hard to find the real owner of this account. What are you thinking? For me, there is something hidden in both of them. They are not sharing the things that they (both) know. For example, buy / selling or any other deal.

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Quote from: Adbitco on January 23, 2023, 04:31:28 PM

Then this should be someone close to you, maybe try reach out to your friends who often share same system with you or could be a friend you hand your phone over to. How is that possible for a hacker to have full control over your btt account as same time with your mail.

Not really someone close. Supposing the email attached to the account isn't some throw-away email that is used only on the account, there are chances of other usages that could have lead to giving the mail off. Like from your TRC20 address presented in OP, it means OP has been about some bounties at some point and could lead to some email exposure in filling out some forms and subsequently, compromise.

It's good enough the mail address wasn't swapped and even better now, the account has been locked due to recovery via secret question so, you stand a better cjnace at unlocking by following the processes as given above by _Blackstar in proving yourself and when that is done successfully, you do your hit to ensure privacy and security by changing important access points @OP.

SoYouThinkYouArePiesel

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Quote from: Piesel Alt on January 24, 2023, 09:01:45 AM

Quote from: SoYouThinkYouArePiesel on January 24, 2023, 01:01:16 AM

Quote from: _BlackStar on January 24, 2023, 12:46:02 AM

What happens if you sell it yourself and then you try to lock the account because you still have access to everything including email because you don't really want to lose the account? Then who should we believe in each other's claims?

I believe if you are the account owner then you have access to the email address, wallet address and it is very possible to get you signed messages with it. But just one thing, what if it's actually you who sold the account and then you lock the account by resetting the password with a secret question?
IMO, only main users know about secret questions.

Then I do accept the consequence that my account will be locked forever or ban or red trust due to selling account. I guess I do not have any proof that I am not selling that account. I just suddenly came back to Bitcointalk and saw my account being used and I want to take it back.

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
24-01-2023
I guess you are the hacker, so since you don't have anything to lose you want the account to remain banned. 
What a low life mentally sick person you are. 
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: bc1q22ssr8r5rxtjh4wqaj8kj8rtvwudngd7p8qq7v

INjg0sM1RoXtzriYiNc5s5/HhN1JeBdDbEl6iHQGTPZKAhrbNQQvQYZ0FSQawjQ2vPSKHeO3pYW8tw15hVXnXQs=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

no bro, Im the true owner of the account. I just want my account back. I know you put a lot of effort on the account. But you buy the account from the unknown source and now the owner - which is me, apparently - comes to take it back. I have the oldest address of the account Piesel, which is posted on 2018: 0xc08f62f38998784cef6803006ff8c4be50326b3c and also the email.

Code:

-----BEGIN ETHEREUM SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I just want my account - Piesel - backed to the true owner of it. Today it 24/01/2023. The current time is 03:56:59 PM
-----BEGIN ETHEREUM SIGNATURE-----
{
  "address": "0xc08f62f38998784cef6803006ff8c4be50326b3c",
  "msg": "0x49206a7573742077616e74206d79206163636f756e74202d2050696573656c202d206261636b656420746f207468652074727565206f776e6572206f662069742e20546f6461792069742032342f30312f323032332e205468652063757272656e742074696d652069732030333a35363a353920504d",
  "sig": "2638f81411a1a0bb1062b1194ca10bf39e972ebc2b482278f2921ea9346397a225b4e687c09cdfaa74e8ed73e44ffe93e3085c74d68b500fcfc038525b0b36141b",
  "version": "3",
  "signer": "MEW"
}
-----END ETHEREUM SIGNATURE-----

Piesel Alt

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on January 24, 2023, 09:11:22 AM

@Piesel Alt
I can't verify your message. http://What software do you use for signing message?

I used mycelium wallet to sign the messages
https://i.ibb.co/FJyncyq/IMG-20230123-WA0000.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/k51KrY3/IMG-20230124-WA0000.jpg
goodwill chico

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Quote from: Ndabagi01 on January 24, 2023, 06:35:16 AM

If this is the most accepted and verifiable way to claim ownership of account, how is it done? A link or thread will help as a guide. Thank you.

Stake your Bitcoin address here, so that you can use that for recovering your account in the case your account is hacked or you lose access to that for any reason.

Below is the guide on how you can sign a message.
How to sign a message?!

@Piesel Alt
I can't verify your message. What software do you use for signing message?

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Quote from: SoYouThinkYouArePiesel on January 24, 2023, 01:01:16 AM

Quote from: _BlackStar on January 24, 2023, 12:46:02 AM

What happens if you sell it yourself and then you try to lock the account because you still have access to everything including email because you don't really want to lose the account? Then who should we believe in each other's claims?

I believe if you are the account owner then you have access to the email address, wallet address and it is very possible to get you signed messages with it. But just one thing, what if it's actually you who sold the account and then you lock the account by resetting the password with a secret question?
IMO, only main users know about secret questions.

Then I do accept the consequence that my account will be locked forever or ban or red trust due to selling account. I guess I do not have any proof that I am not selling that account. I just suddenly came back to Bitcointalk and saw my account being used and I want to take it back.

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
24-01-2023
I guess you are the hacker, so since you don't have anything to lose you want the account to remain banned. 
What a low life mentally sick person you are. 
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: bc1q22ssr8r5rxtjh4wqaj8kj8rtvwudngd7p8qq7v

INjg0sM1RoXtzriYiNc5s5/HhN1JeBdDbEl6iHQGTPZKAhrbNQQvQYZ0FSQawjQ2vPSKHeO3pYW8tw15hVXnXQs=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

John Abraham

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Oh wow. What's happening here?
Mr. SoYouThinkYouArePiesel, Can you tell us if you have sold your account? No explanation, Just Yes or NO.
Of course, the recovery team knows how to deal with such cases. It may take time, but there will be a solution if you can get attention from them. Piesel shared five addresses so far. How many of them do you have access to?

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on January 23, 2023, 05:56:31 PM

One way to prove your ownership of your account is to sign a message from an address which you have posted before in the forum and is obviously yours.
The recovery team surely has some other criteria to verify the claims. For example, they can check IP logs.

Is this the only way one can verify his/her claim of an account in the forum, is there no any other way one can actually do it too asides signing a message?
If this is the most accepted and verifiable way to claim ownership of account, how is it done? A link or thread will help as a guide. Thank you.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on January 24, 2023, 01:13:46 AM

This is what you see on the recovering hacked and lost accounts thread; "Often, you need to prove ownership of the account with a PGP or Bitcoin signature."

They say often, so I hope there will be exceptional case

Quote from: Upgrade00 on January 24, 2023, 01:13:46 AM

Also, it's not the only address which has been posted by the account in question. The first signed message in the op is from a reply made a couple of years ago, which contains a Bitcoin address. And that Bitcoin address has been used multiple times by the account Piesel.

I have to say that it is the only accessible address by me - SoYouThinkYouArePiesel.

https://ninjastic.space/addresses?author=piesel

These are all addresses posted by piesel

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Quote from: SoYouThinkYouArePiesel on January 24, 2023, 01:01:16 AM

Let the admin decide which can be used. But that is my only address on the forum.

This is what you see on the recovering hacked and lost accounts thread; "Often, you need to prove ownership of the account with a PGP or Bitcoin signature."

Also, it's not the only address which has been posted by the account in question. The first signed message in the op is from a reply made a couple of years ago, which contains a Bitcoin address. And that Bitcoin address has been used multiple times by the account Piesel.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on January 24, 2023, 12:46:02 AM

What happens if you sell it yourself and then you try to lock the account because you still have access to everything including email because you don't really want to lose the account? Then who should we believe in each other's claims?

I believe if you are the account owner then you have access to the email address, wallet address and it is very possible to get you signed messages with it. But just one thing, what if it's actually you who sold the account and then you lock the account by resetting the password with a secret question?
IMO, only main users know about secret questions.

Then I do accept the consequence that my account will be locked forever or ban or red trust due to selling account. I guess I do not have any proof that I am not selling that account. I just suddenly came back to Bitcointalk and saw my account being used and I want to take it back.

I did not change make any request of secret question. I only changed my password via email

Quote from: Upgrade00 on January 24, 2023, 12:47:55 AM

Quote from: Crypto-DesignService on January 24, 2023, 12:43:27 AM

will this be viable proof for ownership?

I don't think it does. Besides the reason you pointed out, I believe only Bitcoin signed messages are accepted for account recovery and doesn't include addresses from other networks.

Let the admin decide which can be used. But that is my only address on the forum.

Quote from: Upgrade00 on January 24, 2023, 12:47:55 AM

Quote from: SoYouThinkYouArePiesel on January 24, 2023, 12:10:10 AM

I did not even sell it. I also do not have time to check the private message on yesterday when I first made my password change via email. I just hope that the account will be backed to the true owner, in this case, is me

You claim the account was hacked, but you say here you made the password change via email and did not make a complaint of being hacked, despite there being a huge gap from the password reset to the last password change.

When I tried to reset via email, I still received the resetting password request so i think that complaining is not necessary when you are able to solve the problem yourself, until right now.

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Quote from: SoYouThinkYouArePiesel on January 24, 2023, 12:10:10 AM

I did not even sell it. I also do not have time to check the private message on yesterday when I first made my password change via email. I just hope that the account will be backed to the true owner, in this case, is me

You claim the account was hacked, but you say here you made the password change via email and did not make a complaint of being hacked, despite there being a huge gap from the password reset to the last password change.

Quote from: Crypto-DesignService on January 24, 2023, 12:43:27 AM

will this be viable proof for ownership?

I don't think it does. Besides the reason you pointed out, I believe only Bitcoin signed messages are accepted for account recovery and doesn't include addresses from other networks.

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Quote from: SoYouThinkYouArePiesel on January 24, 2023, 12:10:10 AM

So you think you are hacked. Or perhaps you bought an hacked accounts then the owner suddenly came back from the death

So are we talking with ghosts right now?

Quote from: SoYouThinkYouArePiesel on January 24, 2023, 12:10:10 AM

I did not even sell it. I also do not have time to check the private message on yesterday when I first made my password change via email. I just hope that the account will be backed to the true owner, in this case, is me

What happens if you sell it yourself and then you try to lock the account because you still have access to everything including email because you don't really want to lose the account? Then who should we believe in each other's claims?

I believe if you are the account owner then you have access to the email address, wallet address and it is very possible to get you signed messages with it. But just one thing, what if it's actually you who sold the account and then you lock the account by resetting the password with a secret question?
IMO, only main users know about secret questions.

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Quote from: SoYouThinkYouArePiesel on January 24, 2023, 12:10:10 AM

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Signed message verified https://etherscan.io/verifySig/13636

However upon checking your message with the address you provided to quote it, this is what I only gather. A quote of the supposed address, the orignal post is removed.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.33170519, will this be viable proof for ownership?

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Quote from: Piesel Alt on January 23, 2023, 10:15:48 AM

This is my last activity before the hackers took control, please below is a sign message from my wallet used on the account.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am piesel
23-01-2023
bc1q22ssr8r5rxtjh4wqaj8kj8rtvwudngd7p8qq7v
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: bc1q22ssr8r5rxtjh4wqaj8kj8rtvwudngd7p8qq7v

HyAw5qtADDo4fkRrZQkqXrUk+Qw+dBADEXlKjzsIs85QFoL36AlxKBWsycJQmfPDnfs9vBFaJUK+44KRpBESe0w=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

OP can you sign another message using this address? I can't verify it using Electrum, you may also sign a message using this address for the other one claiming to be the original owner.

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So you think you are hacked. Or perhaps you bought an hacked accounts then the owner suddenly came back from the death

The oldest address is: 0xc08f62f38998784cEf6803006ff8C4bE50326B3C from https://ninjastic.space/address/0xc08f62f38998784cEf6803006ff8C4bE50326B3C

Here is the sign message from it, I hope that I make it correct:

Code:

-----BEGIN ETHEREUM SIGNED MESSAGE-----
SoYouThinkYouArePiesel is here to claim back his account in 24/01/2023
-----BEGIN ETHEREUM SIGNATURE-----
{
  "address": "0xc08f62f38998784cef6803006ff8c4be50326b3c",
  "msg": "0x536f596f755468696e6b596f7541726550696573656c206973206865726520746f20636c61696d206261636b20686973206163636f756e7420696e2032342f30312f32303233",
  "sig": "4f69b8208c8dfeedfa808e2a39b01fbe84ae84405a5950d5201f30e0797542d81a640488fd96cddeede2e505e52ecaf697570e2b69189b85f4ebb916a3bb7e771c",
  "version": "3",
  "signer": "MEW"
}
-----END ETHEREUM SIGNATURE-----

The below are some of the private messages sent to MY EMAIL

https://i.imgur.com/G2vMZBl.png

I did not even sell it. I also do not have time to check the private message on yesterday when I first made my password change via email. I just hope that the account will be backed to the true owner, in this case, is me

Crypto-DesignService

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This happened to me aswell when I tried changing my password via secret question, you're account is safe because there's no way the hacker can use it once locked.
Fastest way to retrieve your account is email the recovery team and provide a signed message, timeframe of unlocking your account is usually 1-3 days after verifying your signed message.

Quote from: alanst on April 05, 2021, 09:03:37 AM

The answer time at the moment is probably one or two days tops, rarely three if we're very busy. He's emailed us and since we've already started, I'd rather have him go through our process

but thanks a lot for your help!

Quote from: Piesel Alt on January 23, 2023, 11:59:29 AM

Note: the hacker have access to my email and my secrete question is saved in my draft on the email.

You can message them with a different email as long as you have the signed messaged verified, that won't be a problem. Here's the email they provided to reach them out

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locked(_)2019(_)[email protected]
*remove open and close parenthesis

You may also try reaching out hilariousandco if they did not respond within a day.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on January 23, 2023, 05:33:04 PM

Do you mean an account can be hacked using the secret questions and the process gets terminated on the way, due to some inaccuracies?

Due to the database leakage in the 2015 hack, theymos doesn't allow people to reset their password via answering the secret question.
For more information about this, you could visit the topic I already shared.

Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on January 23, 2023, 05:33:04 PM

how's the OP gonna get 'em back after every claims that he's rightfully the owner of the account ??-- (remember, that's after when the hacker had changed the passcode already?)? This is only possible if the forum has access to people's personal data, Which is curruptible in my opinion...or is there an alternative?

One way to prove your ownership of your account is to sign a message from an address which you have posted before in the forum and is obviously yours.
The recovery team surely has some other criteria to verify the claims. For example, they can check IP logs.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on January 23, 2023, 12:37:03 PM

The good news is that using the secret question caused the account to be locked and the hacker can't use it now.
You should contact the recovery team. The link to the instruction was shared by _BlackStar above.
You will get access to your account if you can prove that you are the owner of that account.

Sorry, I couldn't get that fact correctly....
Do you mean an account can be hacked using the secret questions and the process gets terminated on the way, due to some inaccuracies? If yes, then how's the OP gonna get 'em back after every claims that he's rightfully the owner of the account ??-- (remember, that's after when the hacker had changed the passcode already?)? This is only possible if the forum has access to people's personal data, Which is curruptible in my opinion...or is there an alternative?

Quote

By the way, I can't verify the message you signed.

The same thing I was wondering too.

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