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newbie
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December 18, 2015, 01:19:14 AM
#31
Dexon is a admin of bustabit quit lying. After your team of admins have attacked my site + trying to bash us, makes me not care anymore about your site being spammed. I suggest you fix your site from being spammed.
newbie
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December 17, 2015, 10:07:57 PM
#30
I do not want to see anymore post from the bustabit admins on my thread.

That's racist Sad

Dexon you sent a malicious attack on our site, you even made a fake account on here again trying to bash us. This is not a place to flame please stay off our thread.

I don't go on your thread and bash it but i could easily. Especially with your lotto where you show 0 proof its not rigged seems like a ploy to get people to bet at X3. 
full member
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I'm a web dev :D
December 17, 2015, 08:57:37 PM
#29
I do not want to see anymore post from the bustabit admins on my thread.

That's racist Sad
newbie
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December 17, 2015, 08:23:52 PM
#28
@jlfvr your only other post is you talking about bustabit so clearly your just here to bash us.. Reading over your post all your saying we are untrustworthy. The same thing can be said for guys site. This site is all about player vs player when your site is players vs the house. Clearly we are a threat or you guys would not be putting so much effort into trying to make us look bad.

The game is fun the people are loving it. Stop trying to bash us.

@ryan i will have to look into a lot of chats.


I do not want to see anymore post from the bustabit admins on my thread.
newbie
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December 17, 2015, 09:04:38 AM
#27
This game is not provably fair and you are misleading your players by claiming it is.

Granted, by displaying the salted and hashed result before the game ends, you prove that the winning ticket (the "lucky number") was not changed based on subsequent wagers by players. However, there is no way for players to verify that the house isn't posing as other players. These fake players would have an obvious advantage since they know which games to enter and when to do so in order to win the pot with a high likelihood, thereby cheating the real players.

Consider this example:

  • Player A purchases a ticket and the hash 5041f376ddcb15642ffecea159db207945c0dc0f8375fb9c4657b1b27b6b0e1eb4cd9a138939664 acd254839f15e70fd18e670ac814202aea4b860bd2aa56adb is shown.
  • Players B, C, D and E also purchase a ticket.
  • The game ends and the lucky number 9337 is revealed. Also, the salt 774eb411-8f95-4e65-b0cd-89c19d05f03b is now displayed.

Player D is having a bad run and he's getting suspicious, so he decides to verify the last game. He uses the formula in your FAQ and enters the lucky number and the salt. To his surprise, everything checks out. The hash is correct!

So, nothing to see here? Not quite. The house purposefully generated a lucky number near the end of the spectrum (from 1 to 10.000). After players B, C and D purchased their tickets the house decided that more players were unlikely to join, so it purchased the winning ticket itself, posing as player E, and thereby cheating player D of his winnings.

This is just one attack vector and I imagine a clever (malicious) site operator would be able to come up with more. In any case you cannot reasonably claim that the game is provably fair.
newbie
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December 17, 2015, 02:14:03 AM
#26
First off you both are running bustabit you both are attacking me i have not once went and spammed your site chat. I have a bunch of people generating traffic for me it could be one of them ill message everyone.

But the fact is you both are trying to bash my site because you also own pevpot a competitor site.

Please stay off my thread when all your doing is flaming.

First of all, I really don't have a problem with competitors at all. Hell, you can download a copy of bustabit and run it yourself if you want *and* even talk about it on my chat. I don't mind. I'm pretty much the least competitive person you'll find. Pevpot doesn't even come close to paying the bills, it's just a bit of fun for me. Hell, if you want, I'll give you a coule bitmillicents to buy a sponsorship on the page Tongue


As for the spammer being you, this is message was made 9 days before the bitcointalk thread ("2015-12-05 23:00:44.336+00"):

Quote
anyone want to help me test out my new site? http://btc-raffle.com/
(a message that's completely fine, and the sort of conversation I like to see on my site. I personally didn't check out your site, but I know Dexon was)

and later you discuss bug-fixing. All which is fine.

But then after you launched, I can definitively link the original account with 100% certainty to these accounts:

Code:
"lolatdexon"
"ReignofTerror"
"KatnissEverdeen"
"zeb"
"tomtom"
"BTC-Raffle-com"
"botmarket"
"hahahahllololol"
"tahoecale"
"lolatryan"

many which were used to spamming, and some which were created in response to mutes, so you could continue spamming.



Or maybe I'm wrong, and one of the "bunch of people" you've hired is an overzealous marketers who impersonates you and then won't stop spamming?



Anyway, I'll stop posting here if you can refrain from advertising on my site (unless its actual conversation, not just "got some big pots going at btc-raffle.com"). Good luck with everything.







You say you don't care but the 2 people who run bustabit/pevpot both are bashing me. I asked you to stop flaming on my thread.

I have said it is not me who is saying anything on your site. There are 5 owners to this site i messaged everyone saying do not use your chat box. What else do you want me to do?

Also i am building a referral system where people will get 1% of their referrals spending. So are you going to blame me when people just trying to make money with referrals and post a link in your chat too?
legendary
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December 17, 2015, 12:19:50 AM
#25
First off you both are running bustabit you both are attacking me i have not once went and spammed your site chat. I have a bunch of people generating traffic for me it could be one of them ill message everyone.

But the fact is you both are trying to bash my site because you also own pevpot a competitor site.

Please stay off my thread when all your doing is flaming.

First of all, I really don't have a problem with competitors at all. Hell, you can download a copy of bustabit and run it yourself if you want *and* even talk about it on my chat. I don't mind. I'm pretty much the least competitive person you'll find. Pevpot doesn't even come close to paying the bills, it's just a bit of fun for me. Hell, if you want, I'll give you a coule bitmillicents to buy a sponsorship on the page Tongue


As for the spammer being you, this is message was made 9 days before the bitcointalk thread ("2015-12-05 23:00:44.336+00"):

Quote
anyone want to help me test out my new site? http://btc-raffle.com/
(a message that's completely fine, and the sort of conversation I like to see on my site. I personally didn't check out your site, but I know Dexon was)

and later you discuss bug-fixing. All which is fine.

But then after you launched, I can definitively link the original account with 100% certainty to these accounts:

Code:
"lolatdexon"
"ReignofTerror"
"KatnissEverdeen"
"zeb"
"tomtom"
"BTC-Raffle-com"
"botmarket"
"hahahahllololol"
"tahoecale"
"lolatryan"

many which were used to spamming, and some which were created in response to mutes, so you could continue spamming.



Or maybe I'm wrong, and one of the "bunch of people" you've hired is an overzealous marketers who impersonates you and then won't stop spamming?



Anyway, I'll stop posting here if you can refrain from advertising on my site (unless its actual conversation, not just "got some big pots going at btc-raffle.com"). Good luck with everything.



legendary
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December 17, 2015, 12:15:31 AM
#24
I played on this site with just a 0.0005 deposit and all worked out pretty well. I'll look forward to playing there in the future.

Thanks admin
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December 17, 2015, 12:09:00 AM
#23
concept of gambling sites are very nice and I think this is the first gambling site that uses the idea.

And if I find a problem with your site, if I was given a reward for these services .. ?? : V
newbie
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December 17, 2015, 12:00:43 AM
#22
Also you and ryan the owners of bustabit need to stop trying to bash us. i know we are competitors but your acting like little kids.

Dexon's not an owner of bustabit, but a moderator. And both he and I have asked you to stop spamming there, which I don't think is either unreasonable or childish.

BTW it's got absolutely nothing to do with you being a competitor, it's got to do with you being disruptive and annoying. I've never had a problem with people talking about competitors (including direct clones!), but creating multiple shill accounts and spamming ads is something that I don't think any site allows or will put up with.


First off you both are running bustabit you both are attacking me i have not once went and spammed your site chat. I have a bunch of people generating traffic for me it could be one of them ill message everyone.

But the fact is you both are trying to bash my site because you also own pevpot a competitor site.

Please stay off my thread when all your doing is flaming.
newbie
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December 16, 2015, 08:55:43 PM
#21
Your game is still not provably fair.

If you could stop spaming your site's link on other casino's chat, I would be really thankful.
You are being really annoying and kiddish.

Thank you for considering my request...

Please read our FAQ page as to how we are provably fair. We show a before and after hash you can verify the hash. Also you and ryan the owners of bustabit need to stop trying to bash us. i know we are competitors but your acting like little kids.
full member
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I'm a web dev :D
December 16, 2015, 08:44:43 PM
#20
Your game is still not provably fair.

If you could stop spaming your site's link on other casino's chat, I would be really thankful.
You are being really annoying and kiddish.

Thank you for considering my request...
newbie
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December 16, 2015, 07:22:56 PM
#19
Yeah let say that it is almost the same at dice and it is 98% chances and then Im sure he will win a lot of money first before he collapse and he will get his profit after his loss. This will make this game one sided match, it is almost the same as usual lottery that let people buy so many tickets. You let 10 accounts playing in the same game? So what are you called this if this will not boost his chance to win?

For 98% bets on dice, the chance to lose in the each game is the same at 2%. The player could lose the first bet if he is very unlucky, or he could win 200 bets in a row if he is very lucky. The same applies to this raffle. It is possible for the player to "win a lot of money first before he collapse", and it is possible for him to "win a little bit and then lose a lot of money". Anyway, I guess I have said enough on this matter. If you (or anybody reading the posts) like this way of playing, you can do so yourself on this raffle site or on dice games as you prefer.

I think everyone have their own thought. I can't debate about this forever with you. I just do what I think its logic. I dont ask you to agree with me or anything. I just feel this is matter of chances so it is my thought and I can't ask you to follow me or else so this is my doing here


i have done a lot of testing and people who buy 10 tickets over the players who only buy 1 ticket do have a better chance to win but i have seen 100s of times where they did not win.
legendary
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December 16, 2015, 12:44:38 PM
#18
Yeah let say that it is almost the same at dice and it is 98% chances and then Im sure he will win a lot of money first before he collapse and he will get his profit after his loss. This will make this game one sided match, it is almost the same as usual lottery that let people buy so many tickets. You let 10 accounts playing in the same game? So what are you called this if this will not boost his chance to win?

For 98% bets on dice, the chance to lose in the each game is the same at 2%. The player could lose the first bet if he is very unlucky, or he could win 200 bets in a row if he is very lucky. The same applies to this raffle. It is possible for the player to "win a lot of money first before he collapse", and it is possible for him to "win a little bit and then lose a lot of money". Anyway, I guess I have said enough on this matter. If you (or anybody reading the posts) like this way of playing, you can do so yourself on this raffle site or on dice games as you prefer.

I think everyone have their own thought. I can't debate about this forever with you. I just do what I think its logic. I dont ask you to agree with me or anything. I just feel this is matter of chances so it is my thought and I can't ask you to follow me or else so this is my doing here
hero member
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December 16, 2015, 08:59:50 AM
#17
Yeah let say that it is almost the same at dice and it is 98% chances and then Im sure he will win a lot of money first before he collapse and he will get his profit after his loss. This will make this game one sided match, it is almost the same as usual lottery that let people buy so many tickets. You let 10 accounts playing in the same game? So what are you called this if this will not boost his chance to win?

For 98% bets on dice, the chance to lose in the each game is the same at 2%. The player could lose the first bet if he is very unlucky, or he could win 200 bets in a row if he is very lucky. The same applies to this raffle. It is possible for the player to "win a lot of money first before he collapse", and it is possible for him to "win a little bit and then lose a lot of money". Anyway, I guess I have said enough on this matter. If you (or anybody reading the posts) like this way of playing, you can do so yourself on this raffle site or on dice games as you prefer.
legendary
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December 16, 2015, 12:44:56 AM
#16
What is the problem of that? I mean, that user with 10 different accounts could have 10x more chance to win, but at the same time he has to risk 10x more in the round for the same potential profit.

This will not fair. He is going to have 10 times more chances than usual people. Sure he risk the 10 account of that but that is almost guarantee win for him. Let say there is 20 people out there playing with his 10 accounts that means he have 50% chance of winning out there

Why would it be not fair? Having a lot of raffle tickets on many different accounts does give him a very high chance to win the raffle, but it is never a guaranteed win. It is just like playing some 98% bets on dice sites, and one day the player will lose an "almost guaranteed win" and lose a huge amount. Would you consider playing 98% bets on dice sites unfair?

Yeah let say that it is almost the same at dice and it is 98% chances and then Im sure he will win a lot of money first before he collapse and he will get his profit after his loss. This will make this game one sided match, it is almost the same as usual lottery that let people buy so many tickets. You let 10 accounts playing in the same game? So what are you called this if this will not boost his chance to win?
hero member
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December 15, 2015, 11:23:26 PM
#15
Vouch for this site!

Started gambling here and had a blast!
newbie
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December 15, 2015, 05:28:45 PM
#14
What is the problem of that? I mean, that user with 10 different accounts could have 10x more chance to win, but at the same time he has to risk 10x more in the round for the same potential profit.

This will not fair. He is going to have 10 times more chances than usual people. Sure he risk the 10 account of that but that is almost guarantee win for him. Let say there is 20 people out there playing with his 10 accounts that means he have 50% chance of winning out there

Why would it be not fair? Having a lot of raffle tickets on many different accounts does give him a very high chance to win the raffle, but it is never a guaranteed win. It is just like playing some 98% bets on dice sites, and one day the player will lose an "almost guaranteed win" and lose a huge amount. Would you consider playing 98% bets on dice sites unfair?


Exactly even if someone was to make 10 accounts its not like he is going to have a 100% chance to win. Each account can only buy 10 tickets just like every other player can. 
hero member
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December 15, 2015, 11:26:34 AM
#13
What is the problem of that? I mean, that user with 10 different accounts could have 10x more chance to win, but at the same time he has to risk 10x more in the round for the same potential profit.

This will not fair. He is going to have 10 times more chances than usual people. Sure he risk the 10 account of that but that is almost guarantee win for him. Let say there is 20 people out there playing with his 10 accounts that means he have 50% chance of winning out there

Why would it be not fair? Having a lot of raffle tickets on many different accounts does give him a very high chance to win the raffle, but it is never a guaranteed win. It is just like playing some 98% bets on dice sites, and one day the player will lose an "almost guaranteed win" and lose a huge amount. Would you consider playing 98% bets on dice sites unfair?
legendary
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December 15, 2015, 07:27:51 AM
#12
It is good that you thought about limiting ability to purchase tickets. But I am afraid that current system can be exploited. After all you can have 2 and more accounts.
And is keeping you from buying with your multi account as many tickets as you virtually want?

That is true someone could have a bunch of accounts buy 10 tickets on each account and have a high chance to win. But thats a huge risk. In testing i have seen a 4% win. So even know other people purchases a ton of tickets the person who purchase 1 ticket won.   

Btw your idea is good enough but still I agree with maku. If you can keep on making a new account and that people will have a better chance to win. Let say he make 10 accounts and together in one game the chance for their winning is higher than others than only make 1 account to participate. Btw I havent saw any pot there in your site. May be you need to make some promotions or giveaways to let them tried it anyway because this is 30 sec games and it will be sure fast enough to end

What is the problem of that? I mean, that user with 10 different accounts could have 10x more chance to win, but at the same time he has to risk 10x more in the round for the same potential profit.

This will not fair. He is going to have 10 times more chances than usual people. Sure he risk the 10 account of that but that is almost guarantee win for him. Let say there is 20 people out there playing with his 10 accounts that means he have 50% chance of winning out there
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