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Quote from: Lucius on October 09, 2022, 11:08:46 AM

Report profile? So what does that have to do with plagiarism, you are not reporting a profile, but some kind of content that has to do with that profile. Given that the posts in question have been deleted, the only thing someone can do now is to find new plagiarized posts (if they exist) and then make a report.

I think he probably meant report one of the posts with a message to the mods to check the user's profile for other instances of plagiarism, although that's not the right way to go about it--or it could just be a misunderstanding due to language. Either way, if the member in question hasn't been banned within maybe a month I'd probably report those posts again. I don't think this is a case where "leniency" should come into play.

Quote from: Tutte on October 09, 2022, 04:01:58 PM

@iroh, don't waste your energy here, probably he has the big Boss in his corner.

If you're referring to Theymos there, I seriously doubt it. The only member who might have Theymos in his corner is Coolcryptovator, or Cryptovator, or whatever his name got changed to. Twice. Sorry, I'm not bitter about being refused a change of username. Not at all, not one bit.

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Quote from: Crypt0S0ul on October 09, 2022, 12:02:46 PM

So, Based on that. I assume Mr. Right will not get banned because he already deleted those posts before moderators saw the report. So instead of reporting them on the Report Plagiarism thread, You can report to Moderators silently describing the reason. Of course, if you badly want to get him banned. Or maybe you can ask him to add source and follow the rules.

Why do you assume that the user deleted his posts himself and not the moderators? Those reports are months old, so there was plenty of time for the moderators to react, which they probably did. Mr.right85's profile on bpip.org shows that 7 of his pots have been deleted by moderators. Second, if you read the OP's post more closely, you'll notice that he quoted reports from the Report plagiarism thread.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on October 09, 2022, 11:07:04 AM

Quote from: logfiles on October 09, 2022, 10:51:17 AM

Report the Profile to the mods again and wait for the result.

It's 4 to 5 months old. Why even should someone do that? I am curious about motivation of the OP.

Why am I not surprised Mr/Miss Royse777 at your meaningless reply!
The MODs clearly fail to do their job of giving the right punishment to a repetitive plagiarized content. Not even a few days ban as a warning doing something he/she has full knowledge of.

@iroh, don't waste your energy here, probably he has the big Boss in his corner. Lol, what's good for the goose is good for the gander but it does not apply to Mr Plagiarism. Cheesy

Maybe I should do a text too...... Tongue

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Quote from: Crypt0S0ul on October 09, 2022, 12:02:46 PM

I knew I will get this question. So, I immediately started searching for the post. It takes 50 Minutes to find this post. Here it is,

Quote from: Xal0lex on August 13, 2022, 04:37:10 PM

Based on their own experience, global moderators do not consider links to posts from Ninjastic.space, as well as Loyce.club, as evidence. Posts that are used as evidence of any violation of the rules by users should be on the forum on a mandatory basis.

So, Based on that. I assume Mr. Right will not get banned because he already deleted those posts before moderators saw the report. So instead of reporting them on the Report Plagiarism thread, You can report to Moderators silently describing the reason. Of course, if you badly want to get him banned. Or maybe you can ask him to add source and follow the rules.

Don't treat my comment as some sort of established rule on the forum. I merely wrote that I was based on my experience of submitting applications to global moderators. Such submissions have not been reviewed for rule violations. That's why I drew that conclusion. But that's not a statement, it's just my assumption. Only global moderators can give a definitive answer on this matter.

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Quote from: Crypt0S0ul on October 09, 2022, 12:02:46 PM

Quote from: Rikafip on October 09, 2022, 11:08:23 AM

Quote from: Crypt0S0ul on October 09, 2022, 10:59:51 AM

To get someone banned, The plagiarized post must be available on the forum. Moderators do not consider Post Scraping links like Loyce.club or Ninjastic. This is not my statement. One of the Mods said that, but I cannot find the Post now.

First time I hear about this and honestly doesn't make much sense to me. Can you please (or anyone else) find the source of that claim?

I knew I will get this question. So, I immediately started searching for the post. It takes 50 Minutes to find this post. Here it is,

Quote from: Xal0lex on August 13, 2022, 04:37:10 PM

Based on their own experience, global moderators do not consider links to posts from Ninjastic.space, as well as Loyce.club, as evidence. Posts that are used as evidence of any violation of the rules by users should be on the forum on a mandatory basis.

This makes sense why wouldn't mods trust such an archiving links. It is possible that TryNinja and/or LoyceV can manipulate the content in their website since they have access to their website, though we know any of them would never do that. But still, mods have their responsibility to ensure everything. Maybe that's why they don't take action based on such proofs.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on October 09, 2022, 11:08:00 AM

That's true. Your points ain't disputed as those post aren't currently in his history but,how bout having it somewhere,

I don't think Moderators consider evidence from outside of the forum.

Quote from: Rikafip on October 09, 2022, 11:08:23 AM

Quote from: Crypt0S0ul on October 09, 2022, 10:59:51 AM

To get someone banned, The plagiarized post must be available on the forum. Moderators do not consider Post Scraping links like Loyce.club or Ninjastic. This is not my statement. One of the Mods said that, but I cannot find the Post now.

First time I hear about this and honestly doesn't make much sense to me. Can you please (or anyone else) find the source of that claim?

I knew I will get this question. So, I immediately started searching for the post. It takes 50 Minutes to find this post. Here it is,

Quote from: Xal0lex on August 13, 2022, 04:37:10 PM

Based on their own experience, global moderators do not consider links to posts from Ninjastic.space, as well as Loyce.club, as evidence. Posts that are used as evidence of any violation of the rules by users should be on the forum on a mandatory basis.

So, Based on that. I assume Mr. Right will not get banned because he already deleted those posts before moderators saw the report. So instead of reporting them on the Report Plagiarism thread, You can report to Moderators silently describing the reason. Of course, if you badly want to get him banned. Or maybe you can ask him to add source and follow the rules.

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@joeperry, that post was also copied from the thread you suggest, don't you see the date above the quote?

Quote from: joeperry on October 09, 2022, 10:10:25 AM

Ps. Mods doesn't choose who to ban or not.

Who decides about it, maybe some secret forces that we don't know about? I don't think all mods have perma-ban authority, but global moderators and admins do.

Quote from: logfiles on October 09, 2022, 10:51:17 AM

Report the Profile to the mods again and wait for the result.

Report profile? So what does that have to do with plagiarism, you are not reporting a profile, but some kind of content that has to do with that profile. Given that the posts in question have been deleted, the only thing someone can do now is to find new plagiarized posts (if they exist) and then make a report.

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Quote from: Iroh on October 09, 2022, 09:17:28 AM

With the fierce stand against plagiarism on the forum, one would think there would certainly have been a repercussion of some sort when someone commits the heinous crime of taking credit for someone else work.

Heinous crime? Plagiarism sucks and I reported my share of those, but lets not exaggerate here.

Quote from: Iroh on October 09, 2022, 09:17:28 AM

The post has been long deleted so I can safely assume that not all users on the forum gets the same treatment when found out for plagiarism

That's a known fact for a long time, nothing new here. And I see nothing wrong if someone who is net positive to this forum gets signature or temporary ban instead permanent one, unlike some shitposter who is probably an alt account of previously banned account.

Quote from: joeperry on October 09, 2022, 10:10:25 AM

Ps. Mods doesn't choose who to ban or not. They ban all the users who was verified that plagiarized, if you think why they are not banned yet. Of course, they with a lot of people posting in the forum they wouldn't be able to filter it out that's why there's a board for that so some users who caught users plagiarizing content can report it.

Situation is not so simple as you presented it. If mods ban all users who plagiarized, @Mr.right85 would have been banned already but as we can see, he still hasn't been banned so when it comes to plagiarism its case by case scenario.

Quote from: Crypt0S0ul on October 09, 2022, 10:59:51 AM

To get someone banned, The plagiarized post must be available on the forum. Moderators do not consider Post Scraping links like Loyce.club or Ninjastic. This is not my statement. One of the Mods said that, but I cannot find the Post now.

First time I hear about this and honestly doesn't make much sense to me. Can you please (or anyone else) find the source of that claim?

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I'd assume a user like 'right' to have known the rules of this community, if not all, atleast -- that plagiarism is something the whole community revert discreetly and that people barely got second chances when caught in this mischievous act.

Hey you, Op, move this to the proper thread as directed above.
It really baffles me; the why and the how a user should plagiarize his gambling post, isn't that really uncalled-for? Was it ever necessary? Of is this the OP's means to met up post quota for the week? Then why hesitate to add source links all through?
Look man, I just dunno how the mods will react on this cus I've known you not to be a troll but you've messed up. I just hope he pops-up to solicit for himself or maybe, mods would take actions accordingly but,damages should please be controlled.

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Quote from: Crypt0S0ul on October 09, 2022, 10:59:51 AM

Mr. Right Deleted all those posts before any moderator saw the plagiarism report.
So, He is safe now and don't expect to get him banned if no new on-forum plagiarism is found.

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That's true. Your points ain't disputed as those post aren't currently in his history but,how bout having it somewhere,
Pending in here just so that references could be made with it? Isn't this type a kind of reference that fits the very fact that things were meant to be archived? ^{I dunno tbh. I'm just curious}
This also doesn't mean that I'm rekindling the whole issue. I just had to ask; leave him be.

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Quote from: logfiles on October 09, 2022, 10:51:17 AM

Report the Profile to the mods again and wait for the result.

It's 4 to 5 months old. Why even should someone do that? I am curious about motivation of the OP.

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I tried to check all the posts you refer to, but none of them are available on the forum anymore.
To get someone banned, The plagiarized post must be available on the forum. Moderators do not consider Post Scraping links like Loyce.club or Ninjastic. This is not my statement. One of the Mods said that, but I cannot find the Post now.

Mr. Right Deleted all those posts before any moderator saw the plagiarism report.
So, He is safe now and don't expect to get him banned if no new on-forum plagiarism is found.

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Report the Profile to the mods again and wait for the result. If it is not banned, then it probably means that the mods were a little lenient to the user and there have been such cases in the past. Nothing new.
Low ranking members are likely to get instant bans because some accounts have minimal contributions in the forum except posting bounty reports or one liners.

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Quote from: Iroh on October 09, 2022, 09:17:28 AM

I’m not advocating for this user to get banned. I’m just curious if a low ranking member also does the same, would the user be given a pass as well?

I have not yet gone through the case and don't know the update but for sure, there should be exceptions always based on users' contributions toward the forum. Someone may make a mistake when they share a piece of news but getting banned for that doesn't make any sense in my opinion. Regarding low-ranking members? It should be the same. There are also users who didn't get the pass despite being a senior members or higher. I really hope it makes sense to you. There are cases where signature banned has been given and I believe this should be practiced more.

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Please do post it here: Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed

Ps. Mods doesn't choose who to ban or not. They ban all the users who was verified that plagiarized, if you think why they are not banned yet. Of course, they with a lot of people posting in the forum they wouldn't be able to filter it out that's why there's a board for that so some users who caught users plagiarizing content can report it.

It's my first time to see plagiarized deleted content, I'm not sure what's gonna be the decision.

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