Topic: 🔄🔄🔄🔄 ――――― ▲ MOIN ――――― It's not dead. It's resting ―――― 🔄🔄🔄🔄 - page 54. (Read 123444 times)

On the 27th of July Moin Movement Foundation address received several transactions in the amount of 500 MOIN.  They did not however include the note "HD Raffle" so they are not currently considered entries into the contest.  If you sent them and accidentally left out the narration let me know through here that you intended them for the raffle.    You will prove your address and then I will send the coins back to you so they can be sent with the proper narration to enter the raffle.  If I don't hear from anyone they will be considered donations to the fund.

the transactions in question are:

7a0bfc056c5f465f9c53b80fba5e48b0d2b5422356639cbed0f9d52bdda1a136
e07a79952a2f919fc3479714feb6b8afcf40f9ebcd9b4ffd1e85deda0df9ced0
59fbc3c40c08f156ffb90cbe8891453e6e82f5a0960788658e914520946ce50a
f7e28b8d678225dcf176bccbf89d6eea55fce17cd5f85938b537023dc9803877
b4186faaad2822093cc3f4df3672ba89ad94b7db79b4c2e1b22bfa9dc389f17f
5c4221c2466782c39846219d89e83c69d884a2d5928ae8de35acd7d669aa0a92
5e5a8d1e64ee94ea0ea1db992b1180649297f0af9d5a02b6c8aaf45bb01446ec
15ea41109e91c10eca9a4bfb379831532af7ffdd407d7169e3475a2ae5a4c01f
4c67e613047e8179324b221c2eb35a3c11192e7cc12782e553242fc113afd645

Time to move coins to Cryptopia all the CUBE holders are CCEX use to be trusted but looks like it turned scam.

I think that was the right thing to do as we don't want new investors coming here and buying MOIN on C-cex exchange and have problems withdrawing there coins. So until C-cex get this issue sorted, I think it's for the best.

Have they given you any update at all dev on why it is only happening on there exchange and not on any of the other exchanges?

I'm removing C-Cex from the OP until we get a satisfactory explanation as to what's going on.

You are right as I just did a check on the explorer and can see that they are actually staking MOIN coins. It most likely is a separate issue but it seems strange that 1337 and CUBE are having the same issues and they are also POS coins. The only other way of contacting them is on this forum as I have done a couple of times.

It is really easy to see they are staking coins, you can load up a c-cex address in the explorer and see the staking occurring.  Although this is probably something not everyone is aware of I think it is a separate issue from the failure to withdraw.  I am going to continue putting in support tickets asking them to take a serious look at this.  Are there any other ways to contact them?

I read that 1337 was also having problems with withdrawing coins from C-cex. So I guess it is them that are causing the issues as they were saying it was the wallets. What they are doing isn't right as I want my coins to stake myself but every time I try and witdraw my coins they fail to send  and I loose a days staking because of it. Even withdrawing 20 coins now gets stuck and fails to send. As I said I'm going to use Cryptopia but the problem is that I still have MOIN coins on C-cex which I want to withdraw. 

About CCEX and their POS coins that they have there it seems they are staking clients coins.

Not only MOIN has problems also 1337 and CUBE

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/c-cex-locking-working-wallets-are-they-staking-or-just-incompetent-1568277

My pleasure   I really enjoy running the raffle.

FYI Moin Movement has so far received 16100 MOIN for the ongoing raffle.  Good luck to all the entrants.

I am starting to think about what to do for the next MOIN raffle or event.  Gotta make it something good 

Great raffle, thank you much to Jookly for gift... I am in & keeping fingers cross.

Just quick thank you to KingCaper for providing so many answers, hopefully it wasn't too overwhelming as that wasn't the goal, just curiosity.

Reminder that there's less than a week to enter the Moin Movement raffle for a Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" 250GB SSD (thanks Jookly!).



100 MOIN per entry

Raffle Page

Okay dev thanks for the reply.

I guess I'll start using Cryptopia for now until C-cex fixes the issue. I just hope they don't delist MOIN because of low volume as most of us will start trading on the other exchanges.

I sent them a message a week ago to which I haven't had a response. I sent another today asking for details and offering to help with any problems they might have. I'll let you know when I hear from them.

Till the issue's resolved I advise everyone else to use one of the other exchanges listed in the OP.

You're right, we have a system that uses a secondary currency called MOINX which like CryptoNote uses ring signatures and dual-key stealth addresses to create untraceable, unlinkable transactions.  [White paper] We never pushed it or the privacy angle very hard out of courtesy to SDC. It was their innovation and despite them not getting it quite right the first time, it's one I think they deserve more credit for. Later I held off on mentioning it until we'd implemented the fix.



There are various levels of privacy available to users:

• (low privacy) Standard transactions on the main chain
• (moderate privacy) Transactions using (single-use) stealth addresses on the main chain, making them unlinkable
• (strong privacy) MOINX to MOINX transactions

There are some caveats though. The MOINX system is currently unused. I'm not sure if that's because we chose not to promote it heavily or because it's something people don't really have a use for, but if we were to start using it it would take some time before it could function effectively as each conversion from MOIN to MOINX creates more outputs that can potentially be used in MOINX transactions. I believe given the direction we'll be taking the project that the option to transact privately is something that users will come to appreciate.
Also, it's worth noting that having to convert from MOINX back to MOIN means compromising your privacy to an extent. This could be mitigated if we were to make MOINX the focus of the ecosystem, making it the currency of any services we build for example. We could even ask that exchanges switch to MOINX and leave MOIN purely for staking.



When Monero does finish RingCT there's probably no reason why it couldn't be integrated.



If someone wanted to hide it from their ISP there are already options such as using a VPN or running MOIN over the TOR network. (Settings>Options)




I believe SDC was working on native I2P support at one point, but I'm not sure if that's still planned. Again though, as the anonymous transaction function hasn't sparked a lot of interest so far we haven't given much thought to introducing other privacy-related features for which there might not be any demand.



No plans for this at present.



We've landed on PoS v3 for now but I appreciate it's not perfect (and doesn't address nothing at stake). As you point out, the Eth team seem to be doing to most promising work in this area at the moment. It's something we plan to reevaluate and we'll be monitoring alternatives in the mean time. Perhaps in the end we'll just go back to trusty old proof of work.  


This isn't a pressing concern. If we get to a stage where we're even remotely close to processing that many transactions we'll start giving thought to solutions.

I'll come back to that final question next time I'm on. Thanks a lot for the thought-provoking questions.

I agree and if this keeps up I'll have to start using Cryptopia to get my MOIN coins. If it was the wallet like C-cex is saying then why is everything working fine with Cryptopia and I bet Livecoin also works just fine. Again I just tried withdrawing from C-cex and this time I tried 25 coins and again same thing but this time the site went offline while it was sending so I think it actually is C-cex now as the site went offline while sending so how can that be the wallets fault?

Dev have you heard anything from C-cex as to why this is still happening?

yeah i wish they would take the time to actually look at the issue.  The response to the latest ticket was once again copy and paste saying that it must be a problem with the wallet.  I don't think they are accepting that this is fixable.  I mean it did used to work until fairly recently.  Their unwillingness to really address this is quite frustrating I agree.

I just don't understand why it is only happening with C-cex exchange as it's not happening on Cryptopia so surely it is to do with C-cex exchange. It's frustrating and annoying as it happens all the time even now with 50 coins when before it was working okay with that amount. We really need MOIN to get listed on Bittrex and Poloniex sooner rather then later.

Agreed same problem still.  I sent in another support ticket.

The MOIN wallet is now out of maintenance on C-cex exchange however I'm still having the same issues withdrawing my MOIN coins. I thought it would of been fixed since the wallet went into maintenance but it's not