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Topic: monero vs BBR ? (Read 2801 times)

legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas
August 04, 2014, 12:03:50 AM
#52

How many successive drops are you anticipating? macbook will be cheaper than entire market cap on 2 more..

I will switch to base e soon.

Someone bought 100k bbr and an hour later the price was lower than before.  Coin is looking terminally I'll now.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 501
August 03, 2014, 07:08:21 PM
#51
Not trying to spread FUD, but DAMN, that BBR graph looks like a serious falling knife to try to catch.

I plan to buy 10x as much BBR each time it drops by a factor of 10.  In between those times I will have acquired a much larger number of XMR, however.


Ditto. My recent strategy too.  Grin

How many successive drops are you anticipating? macbook will be cheaper than entire market cap on 2 more..

Not sure. I am almost happy to have missed the news around BBR, mainly due to the name when it was announced, to now being able to accumulate BBR  Smiley. Almost a month later I am a bit more informed after completely neglecting it. I don't know if a new chain was needed entirely, but I like the advancements being made by zoidberg with his project.

My dream is tacotime and zoidberg working together, but alas that is not happening it seems  Cry

For me the coins are about developers. I don't pay attention to marketing and gimmicks or world domination of a single coin system.

Evan@Darkcoin, tacotime@Monero and zoidberg@BBR are as cool as they get.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 504
August 03, 2014, 04:09:24 PM
#50
Not trying to spread FUD, but DAMN, that BBR graph looks like a serious falling knife to try to catch.

I plan to buy 10x as much BBR each time it drops by a factor of 10.  In between those times I will have acquired a much larger number of XMR, however.


Ditto. My recent strategy too.  Grin

How many successive drops are you anticipating? macbook will be cheaper than entire market cap on 2 more..
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 501
August 02, 2014, 06:32:34 PM
#49
Not trying to spread FUD, but DAMN, that BBR graph looks like a serious falling knife to try to catch.

I plan to buy 10x as much BBR each time it drops by a factor of 10.  In between those times I will have acquired a much larger number of XMR, however.


Ditto. My recent strategy too.  Grin
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
August 02, 2014, 04:09:07 PM
#48
BBR has no chance! Monero to the Moon!

Monero will win this race! For sure.

Monero is the objectively superior coin man, dont get scammed.

This is the most bizarre string of newbie accounts and postings I've ever seen. Is someone trying to set Monero up for a shill accusation?

Maybe they're just fans. Perhaps they saw the naked pictures of me that got posted online. That would explain it.


legendary
Activity: 3136
Merit: 1116
August 02, 2014, 03:19:49 PM
#47
BBR has no chance! Monero to the Moon!

Monero will win this race! For sure.

Monero is the objectively superior coin man, dont get scammed.

This is the most bizarre string of newbie accounts and postings I've ever seen. Is someone trying to set Monero up for a shill accusation?

...or monero is just sucking up newbs like a Spaceballs sized vacuum cleaner.

suck...Suck...SUCK...SUCK!
donator
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1060
GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
August 02, 2014, 02:51:26 PM
#46
BBR has no chance! Monero to the Moon!

Monero will win this race! For sure.

Monero is the objectively superior coin man, dont get scammed.

This is the most bizarre string of newbie accounts and postings I've ever seen. Is someone trying to set Monero up for a shill accusation?
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas
August 02, 2014, 12:41:53 PM
#45
Not trying to spread FUD, but DAMN, that BBR graph looks like a serious falling knife to try to catch.

I plan to buy 10x as much BBR each time it drops by a factor of 10.  In between those times I will have acquired a much larger number of XMR, however.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
August 02, 2014, 11:00:47 AM
#44
Monero is the objectively superior coin man, dont get scammed.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
August 02, 2014, 10:31:41 AM
#43
Monero will win this race! For sure.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
August 02, 2014, 10:13:50 AM
#42
BBR has no chance! Monero to the Moon!
hero member
Activity: 1204
Merit: 509
July 30, 2014, 04:10:16 PM
#41
If it has fixed the bloat issue + GUI, I now wonder why the coin isn't more popular than it is.
these things take time to get around  Smiley

the name is silly which probably is why there aren't any 250 btc walls hanging around, but zoidberg is working hard at improving the important parts.


I wonder if they have given any thought to a name change (yet again)?

It's weird to think that they chose a name that really works against them. It is hard to take a coin seriously when it sounds like a brand of odd cereal.

Keep BBR if they want... just come up with something a bit more professional sounding?
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
July 30, 2014, 04:41:08 AM
#40
ok now I'm excited if there's headway being made with regard to the bloating issue (if we can call it an issue really but anyway..) - hope there's something to report soon!
member
Activity: 117
Merit: 100
July 30, 2014, 04:27:59 AM
#39
If it has fixed the bloat issue + GUI, I now wonder why the coin isn't more popular than it is.
these things take time to get around  Smiley

the name is silly which probably is why there aren't any 250 btc walls hanging around, but zoidberg is working hard at improving the important parts.

Not trying to spread FUD, but DAMN, that BBR graph looks like a serious falling knife to try to catch.
i've happily been taking knives to the face for a few weeks now, 0.5 btc at a time  Grin
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
July 29, 2014, 09:37:38 AM
#38
Not trying to spread FUD, but DAMN, that BBR graph looks like a serious falling knife to try to catch.
hero member
Activity: 1204
Merit: 509
July 28, 2014, 05:34:03 PM
#37
What differences are there between the two coins on a technical level? Meaning... has either dev team added something to the cryptonote code, or done anything to really differentiate them?

I'm still waiting for a dev to figure out a solution to the bloat issues with all cryptonote coins. It wouldn't surprise me to see a dev wander in one day with a new coin, have a fix for the bloat + gui wallet, and overshadow all existing cryptonote coins.

Here are some technical differences:

From launch Boolberry has had:
-Ability to prune blockchain as explained here:
http://www.slideshare.net/boolberry/boolberry-reduces-blockchain-bloat
-Better anonymity as explained here:
http://www.slideshare.net/boolberry/boolberry-solves-cryptonoteflaws-37055246
-Network Alerts
-Support for aliases


BBR has had an Official GUI wallet for some time. You can download it here:
http://boolberry.com/downloads.html

Interesting... and thanks. When I have time I'll look them over closer.

If it has fixed the bloat issue + GUI, I now wonder why the coin isn't more popular than it is.
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1001
July 28, 2014, 05:27:09 PM
#36
What differences are there between the two coins on a technical level? Meaning... has either dev team added something to the cryptonote code, or done anything to really differentiate them?

I'm still waiting for a dev to figure out a solution to the bloat issues with all cryptonote coins. It wouldn't surprise me to see a dev wander in one day with a new coin, have a fix for the bloat + gui wallet, and overshadow all existing cryptonote coins.

Here are some technical differences:

From launch Boolberry has had:
-Ability to prune blockchain as explained here: EDIT - Prune is wrong. Reduced block-chain bloat is better.
http://www.slideshare.net/boolberry/boolberry-reduces-blockchain-bloat
-Better anonymity as explained here:
http://www.slideshare.net/boolberry/boolberry-solves-cryptonoteflaws-37055246
-Network Alerts
-Support for aliases


BBR has had an Official GUI wallet for some time. You can download it here:
http://boolberry.com/downloads.html
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
July 28, 2014, 05:15:06 PM
#35
Ten's of thousands of lines of code maybe but are you suggesting to me no eyes were on slow_hash specifically.

No, there probably weren't, as part of the initial fork/launch.

There was never any intention to change the proof-of-work as part of forking bytecoin (unlike BBR which did intend to change its proof of work). It was never even discussed. So no reason specifically to look at it. Certainly none of us (meaning the people approaching this from the outside community, as opposed the bytecoin people) had any reason to suspect that it had been (likely) intentionally crippled, as we discovered later. This simply did not happen.

You have to remember at the time this was just yet another coin fork, not anything like the (somewhat) big deal it seems to be today. The thread discussing the original fork was maybe a few dozen messages, and relatively few participants. At the time few even cared much about it.

There were some other things that were changed (penalty-free size, coin supply, etc.) or fixed (coinbase transation mining bug) so those parts of the code were definitely looked at right away, but those had nothing to do with slow_hash.


hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1001
July 28, 2014, 05:09:12 PM
#34
The subject of this thread was which coin was a better investment(subjective). The op mentioned that someone "swore by" the BBR dev. My comment was meant to highlight that the BBR dev is {probably} untrustworthy. The hashing implementation is {obviously} flawed, and it was {undoubtedly} done on purpose in order for the dev to instamine tons of the coin with a gpu.

The OP never said the subject was about the better investment.

Please enlighten us on the flawed hash.
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1001
July 28, 2014, 05:03:53 PM
#33
Why did such a bug ever make it past the audit stage? unless there was
1) no audit beyond initial copy and paste, (he team lacked the competence to notice such a trivial un-optimization)

I guess you were volunteering to audit the tens of thousands of lines of code with no design documentation and no comments?

For that matter, if you are still volunteering to do this, we have openings, since the process is ongoing.


No one knows for sure when they found out.

The file was named "slow-hash.c". The file name itself says what it does. The bytecoin devs had optimized miners from launch until the crippling was found.
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