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July 27, 2014, 08:57:09 PM
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July 27, 2014, 08:49:37 PM
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How can we discuss the positives of both coins and see what the differences are there?

I have read this instamine by a certain miner allegation. I then read about Botnets mining Monero and this discussion was getting masked by cheerleaders, which is why I started looking at other CN coins.

Negatives
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BBR has been mined by a miner who specializes in writing GPU miners (years or experience starting with BTC, LTC etc)
XMR has been mined by 2 large Botnet operators amongst other malware purchasable on HackForums (100s of thousands of overall supply to date)


Positives
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Lets start adding them here.


Positives
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XMR

  • Monero has a pretty big community, lots of big names are in Monero, most of them don't buy altcoins but they do buy Monero.
  • Poloniex recently replaced their LTC markets with XMR markets so it's definately not just a simple shitcoin.

BBR

  • Has an official GUI wallet.
  • Can send/receive to aliases


Anyone know more details about the technical achievements of both coins, please report and discuss. Want some good CN information coming out of this thread. Thanks OP!





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July 27, 2014, 08:40:31 PM
#10
Folks, Instamining/centralized mining/botnet mining these tend to lose any impact on the coins lives. Artforz was known to have mined 100s of thousands of LTC, along with BCX and a few others. IT IS NOT A VALID POINT TO DISCUSS. Even if it is, please stop garbaging this thread with negativity.


Compared to Monero BBR has pretty low volume, along with the instamine it should be an obvious choice.

noone cares who mines the coins, it's either dumped by a lot of individuals to pay for mining costs etc. or it's dumped by one or two botnet operators, noone really cares,

See what you did there? Contradicted yourself. I started reading about this type of typical arguments and started looking into BBR.

It looks like you have bought into a certain coin, and now will have to inevitably live the life of a cheerleader. You make your decision based on who else is buying the coin(which isn't bad per se), but it can bite you back in the arse.

Now who is knowledgeable to list positives of these two coins. Constant negativity is not going to help.

Botnets dont have much of an effect, that is true, since it's known that the majority of them dump anyway. But when it comes to truly unfair instamines, like Boolberrys instamine with PGPU's(which is still going on), in which the instaminer holds his/her coins, that hinders the coin Immensely(it wont ever get accepted by store, regular joe, etc) since one person has gained unfairly, a huge amount of coins, especially since BBR has a slower emission rate than XMR, that only makes the instamine much worse.
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July 27, 2014, 08:38:02 PM
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Folks, Instamining/centralized mining/botnet mining these tend to lose any impact on the coins lives. Artforz was known to have mined 100s of thousands of LTC, along with BCX and a few others. IT IS NOT A VALID POINT TO DISCUSS. Even if it is, please stop garbaging this thread with negativity.


Compared to Monero BBR has pretty low volume, along with the instamine it should be an obvious choice.

noone cares who mines the coins, it's either dumped by a lot of individuals to pay for mining costs etc. or it's dumped by one or two botnet operators, noone really cares,

See what you did there? Contradicted yourself. I started reading about this type of typical arguments and started looking into BBR.

It looks like you have bought into a certain coin, and now will have to inevitably live the life of a cheerleader. You make your decision based on who else is buying the coin(which isn't bad per se), but it can bite you back in the arse.

Now who is knowledgeable to list positives of these two coins. Constant negativity is not going to help.

I never contradicted myself, you really seem to miss the point.

I should mention though that I forgot to add that Monero might be mined by one or two botnets ALONGSIDE with many individuals, this is really something else than one person with a PGPU miner who now probably has ~25% of the BBR coins out there who can dump the coin to 0 satoshi, the distribution of Monero and Boolberry is completely different and is this is definately in favor of Monero.

It definately looks like you bought into a certain coin (BBR duh) and you are living the life of a cheerleader, I posted simple facts you can't deny.

Also I listed a couple positives off the top of my head but it seems that you have a hard time reading/interpretating.
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July 27, 2014, 08:25:37 PM
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Folks, Instamining/centralized mining/botnet mining these tend to lose any impact on the coins lives. Artforz was known to have mined 100s of thousands of LTC, along with BCX and a few others. IT IS NOT A VALID POINT TO DISCUSS. Even if it is, please stop garbaging this thread with negativity.


Compared to Monero BBR has pretty low volume, along with the instamine it should be an obvious choice.

noone cares who mines the coins, it's either dumped by a lot of individuals to pay for mining costs etc. or it's dumped by one or two botnet operators, noone really cares,

See what you did there? Contradicted yourself. I started reading about this type of typical arguments and started looking into BBR.

It looks like you have bought into a certain coin, and now will have to inevitably live the life of a cheerleader. You make your decision based on who else is buying the coin(which isn't bad per se), but it can bite you back in the arse.

Now who is knowledgeable to list positives of these two coins. Constant negativity is not going to help.
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July 27, 2014, 08:15:34 PM
#7
How can we discuss the positives of both coins and see what the differences are there?

I have read this instamine by a certain miner allegation. I then read about Botnets mining Monero and this discussion was getting masked by cheerleaders, which is why I started looking at other CN coins.

Negatives
=======

BBR has been mined by a miner who specializes in writing GPU miners (years or experience starting with BTC, LTC etc)
XMR has been mined by 2 large Botnet operators amongst other malware purchasable on HackForums (100s of thousands of overall supply to date)


Positives
=======

Lets start adding them here.

The largest confirmed botnet owner for xmr only had 20 cpu's under his control...That is hardly anything tbh. Only 11% of all XMR's have been mined, and there is no instamine, you can check by on monerochain.org

Boolberry is a different story, it has a confirmed PGPU miner who is confirmed to make over 4,000 Boolberry per day at currency hashrate, and was making 5,000-7,000 per day just a month ago. Lowest he was making, was 1,000 per day(which is still very high) during the pump, so he at least has over 200,000 Boolberry by now, making that a HUGE instamine BTW, Boolberry has a PGPU miner AND Botnets
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July 27, 2014, 08:13:35 PM
#6
Definately Monero.

Compared to Monero BBR has pretty low volume, along with the instamine it should be an obvious choice.

Also Monero has a pretty big community, lots of big names are in Monero, most of them don't buy altcoins but they do buy Monero.

Poloniex recently replaced their LTC markets with XMR markets so it's definately not just a simple shitcoin.

https://www.poloniex.com/press-releases/2014.07.23-Poloniex-Welcomes-New-Monero-XMR-Markets

To comment on the botnet argument: First of all I don't know if it's true and even if it's true noone cares who mines the coins, it's either dumped by a lot of individuals to pay for mining costs etc. or it's dumped by one or two botnet operators, noone really cares, if anything it shows that there is a lot of interest in the coin.
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July 27, 2014, 08:10:31 PM
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How can we discuss the positives of both coins and see what the differences are there?

I have read this instamine by a certain miner allegation. I then read about Botnets mining Monero and this discussion was getting masked by cheerleaders, which is why I started looking at other CN coins.

Negatives
=======

BBR has been mined by a miner who specializes in writing GPU miners (years or experience starting with BTC, LTC etc)
XMR has been mined by 2 large Botnet operators amongst other malware purchasable on HackForums (100s of thousands of overall supply to date)


Positives
=======

Lets start adding them here.
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July 27, 2014, 08:03:40 PM
#4
Boolberry has an instamine of over 100k coins at least, by that guy with the PGPU, getting previously 5-7k coins per day, now getting above 4k+ coins per day since the difficulty drop again. He probably has over 200k boolberrys by now, especially since hes been mining for months.

I dont know why anyone would even buy that coin. Its instamine is similar(though not as severe) as Darkcoins instamine.

Boolberry is able to be instamined with a PGPU, because it uses the Wild Keccak algo, instead of Cryptonight, which xmr and the other cryptonote coins use.
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July 27, 2014, 07:58:44 PM
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Do not put all your eggs in one basket. But "Divergents" like you are a threat to the "system" lol You must conform with only one choice!!  Not many BBR threads in the main alt section, so I am sure not a lot of people even know the differences. Their PR sucks, but even I have read and did some research on the dev(s) before buying the coins and can see some quality work.

@r3wt

Can you please elaborate on this GPU exploit? I might have missed this in their ANN thread.
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July 27, 2014, 06:44:44 PM
#2
3 people including 1 die hard dark coin supporter has told me the dev of BBR is the  one to watch.

I have a few xmr and bbr but can't decide which is the best bet at the current price.

Most of the talk is about xmr though so put half in each or go all in on xmr?



BOOLBERRY is purposely flawed in order to be exploited with a  gpu. just look at the code.
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July 27, 2014, 06:05:49 PM
#1
3 people including 1 die hard dark coin supporter has told me the dev of BBR is the  one to watch.

I have a few xmr and bbr but can't decide which is the best bet at the current price.

Most of the talk is about xmr though so put half in each or go all in on xmr?

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