Topic: Money and people - page 5. (Read 4779 times)
They should spend all of the money on removing greed from humans and then letting them graze with no concept of money at all.
I voted "the more you work the more you get" but I think that obviously a university teacher should earn more than a taxi driver (nothing against taxi drivers 
) for the same hours of work. There are jobss that less people can do or jobs that are more useful than others and it's fair that they are payed the most.
) for the same hours of work. There are jobss that less people can do or jobs that are more useful than others and it's fair that they are payed the most.Indeed, even school teachers rant about McDonald's employees getting more paid than teachers do. Well if they've got a problem with their salary, they can always switch to another job. My point is, people are free to choose what to do in life so we do not have the rights to rant if we think some people are getting paid more with their easy job.
Money and people are related each other.Money can made chance to peoples mind. And people can made money.
Some people change their behavior whenever the topic is changed to money. Some people use money as an inspiration to do their tasks but this actually just make a person greedier. Although we can always make money when there's an opportunity, our nature makes us greedier whenever we once handle a big amount of money.
this is the right way that the more you work the more you get.
and money and people are two opposite things.
one with money will be just a man without feelings.
and some one with money will be a man with a good heart.
and money and people are two opposite things.
one with money will be just a man without feelings.
and some one with money will be a man with a good heart.
Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?
You don't have to imagine: something like that was tried in the real world after the U.S.S.R. imploded. When it came time to desocialize, the new Russian government decided that the best way was to issue shares in State-owned enterprises to everyone. It was like a gigantic "Free and Fair Distribution" experiment - and it had the same results.
Most of the folks who got their shares said, "Yay! Free money!" and sold their shares for whatever they could get. The biggest buyers with the most liquid bids - those folks were the first oligarchs.
"Pareto's Law" lives. What was interesting about the '14 Free-And-Fair fad is that it showed why Pareto's Principle worked. The ones who "scooped up all the money" were a mixture of bad and good, but what they had in common was that they were more future-oriented.
Funny that a big swinging whale would have so much in common with a bagholder, but there you go.
Without context people could think you were right. Truth is more complicated. Before the first shares were issued the russian people had been under extreme austerity measures. Very high taxes and interest rates, so no borrowing or financing for many industries and businesses, very big cuts to welfare programs, high unemployment, hyperinflation, etc. It's not that the oligarchs were more future oriented as you say. It's that they weren't at risk of being homeless or starving. So could take advantage of the shares and buy shares from others. Something most people couldn't afford. Easy to see when you look at who many of them are: old business managers and other party insiders. And the other privatizations they did after were worse. Just fraud nothing else.
Its not about diving money in my view.
Op has a bit flawed, and should be can everyone pay their fair share of taxes according to how much they make.
Op has a bit flawed, and should be can everyone pay their fair share of taxes according to how much they make.
I voted "the more you work the more you get" but I think that obviously a university teacher should earn more than a taxi driver (nothing against taxi drivers ) for the same hours of work. There are jobss that less people can do or jobs that are more useful than others and it's fair that they are payed the most.
) for the same hours of work. There are jobss that less people can do or jobs that are more useful than others and it's fair that they are payed the most.More you work, more will be your earning but here as mentioned every user has a unique perspective about their own job. The pay or money they get is totally upon the universal analysis and acceptance.
I voted "the more you work the more you get" but I think that obviously a university teacher should earn more than a taxi driver (nothing against taxi drivers ) for the same hours of work. There are jobss that less people can do or jobs that are more useful than others and it's fair that they are payed the most.
) for the same hours of work. There are jobss that less people can do or jobs that are more useful than others and it's fair that they are payed the most. 
Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?
First, government can't create something from nothing, even money
In order that government can have money, first they have to collect it from the taxes.
In order to collect taxes, some people should earn money first.
In order that people can earn some money, jobs are needed.
There a no jobs without government regulations and no government regulations without government
So, everything is connected.
Government don't have absolute freedom to do whatever they wants with public money.
It's naive way of thinking.
They have to give salary to many workers in the government offices, army, public health industry etc.
They also have to pay for national loans, cover international cost for international organization as World bank, Unite Nations etc.
So it's impossible that government can share all money with people, even small amount of public money is difficult to share, because of so many different agendas and interests in society.
Yes, people should receive salary for their work but if they work in private area, they can't request government to give them salary.
It will be strange to do such thing.
the sincerity of people will come out at that time when have alot of money and you borrowed some and they refused at your face.
Money changes people when they don't respect it and it comes back to bite them. It's important as a way of getting through but experience has taught that having too much breeds unhappiness and misfortune. The more you have the more likely you will lose it!
you have to believe that live is unfair. money can not distributed equally between people because if that happen, noone will do his work and money will be useless. So everyone have to work hard in order to earn some money
perfectly agreed .. life is unequitable for humanity.. incomes can not be allocated equally because of our modern world 's economical systems. so everybody have to work hard for money ..
Money and people are related each other.Money can made chance to peoples mind. And people can made money.
Let's imagine the world, where government has all the money at the beginning and we need to decide how this money can be shared with people. Do we all need to be equal? Or should our salary depend on the work we do?
it's better to get salary depends on how hard works we do. if our works need much power or much thinking, the salary should be big then.I think it's not fair to get the same salary in doing different level of difficulty.
(a.) If you gave everybody else the same amount of money, for some reasons that would be considered as equality. But for people that are willing to work harder than those slackers that are going to have the same amount of me money as they are, it is very unfair.
(b.) The world is full of greedy people. If you let them take how much they want, there will be a person willing to get all the money in the world, leaving the other people having no money at all.
(c.) For me the money you get should depend on your knowledge and how you use it. If you do have a lot of knowledge and can make a lot of money without doing much effort, then that's okay. If you otherwise are not knowledgeable and can only do heavy stuffs of work, then you have to do much effort. Both deserves to be paid higher than the people who does nothing in their lives.
(b.) The world is full of greedy people. If you let them take how much they want, there will be a person willing to get all the money in the world, leaving the other people having no money at all.
(c.) For me the money you get should depend on your knowledge and how you use it. If you do have a lot of knowledge and can make a lot of money without doing much effort, then that's okay. If you otherwise are not knowledgeable and can only do heavy stuffs of work, then you have to do much effort. Both deserves to be paid higher than the people who does nothing in their lives.
if we work hard whatever we can get. government only monitors while the action is in our hands. we can get what we want if we have the motivation to get it.
You can live a decent life. It's not easy but it is doable. I don't say rich, but decent.
That's the right term for it. Decent but not rich it is better to live with a decent life in peace and you have enough profit for a living rather than living a rich life but you are wasted with your full time work or business on it, most people wants to be rich but there are rich people wants to live a peaceful life.
It must be "the more you work, the more you get" there should be no space for lazy people...just put to the exemption those who are disable...besides, even those disable sometimes work harder than those physically fit...
Agree with you sir, money shouldt be directly proportional to its effort get it. The more harder a person works,the more money or compensation he should get.Its Fair.
Another consideration is physical effort. Some hard manual jobs create major stress on bodies that can prevent long term dedication to that job and cause long term physical damage.
Yes but where would these "free" money come from?
Guaranteed Minimum Income is a well known concept. The base idea is that all people have the ability to care for themselves no matter what employtment circumstances they're in. Having a relaxed confident core of workers theoretically creates a more unified and prosperous society.
Any person can view themselves in regard to employment, and take whatever time is necessary to shape themselves to fit their employment views.
However, there is a need for education such that a welfare state of dependancy is not created.
Such GMI is not necessarily of benefit to a psychologically ill culture.
What would be the right way of dividing money in the world?
give everybody the same amount
a person decides how much he/she needs and takes it
the more you work the more you get
Give everybody 15k a year for free .Then the more you work the more you get rule included..
if your worth more than 3 million you don't get the 15k any more..
With the 15k poor people will pay there own rent then live of the rest if you have loads of children its your own fault you only got 15k .still go out and work tho and earn more..
and you don't get the 15k till your 21 years old
Also free education and free health..my ideal world and it would work
give everybody the same amount
a person decides how much he/she needs and takes it
the more you work the more you get
Give everybody 15k a year for free .Then the more you work the more you get rule included..
if your worth more than 3 million you don't get the 15k any more..
With the 15k poor people will pay there own rent then live of the rest if you have loads of children its your own fault you only got 15k .still go out and work tho and earn more..
and you don't get the 15k till your 21 years old
Also free education and free health..my ideal world and it would work
Yes but where would these "free" money come from?
Guaranteed Minimum Income is a well known concept. The base idea is that all people have the ability to care for themselves no matter what employtment circumstances they're in. Having a relaxed confident core of workers theoretically creates a more unified and prosperous society.
Any person can view themselves in regard to employment, and take whatever time is necessary to shape themselves to fit their employment views.
However, there is a need for education such that a welfare state of dependancy is not created.
Such GMI is not necessarily of benefit to a psychologically ill culture.
You can live a decent life. It's not easy but it is doable. I don't say rich, but decent.
All this is predicated on the idea that people would be honest. But there will always be thieves and scammers.
Not only that many people not start from equal starting position so this is very unfair to talk about this topic. More you work your employer will have more. And if you live in third world countries..
This can apply only if we live in UTOPIA but even then you will work more for others..
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