Topic: MoneyPot & Investors (Read 2717 times)

I believe that your only key here is to have a large investment in the bank roll. I would try this with a couple of different sides with some smaller Investments and it just kind of bounces all around the original investment number little bit up little bit down looks like that over a period of time there would be a gradual rise but if you're going to get any real money out of it, you're going to have to put real money into it.

All this sites most of the times end up being ponzi sites, when dealing with them you should be very care full so not to lose no matter it's and investment site in a way.

Wrong! Moneypot is trying to manipulate the community!

how can I sink Moneypot? only Moneypot can sink Moneypot!


are you trying to sink Moneypot with your correct and straight forward statement? NO

Monbeypot will sink themselves if not listening to their Investors and Players

I know that JackpotRacer is mainly trying to manipulate the community and sink MoneyPot.

But he's right in some points like RBIES and investor distribution structure. I have nearly 4BTC in other site's bankrolls and I'm always looking to expand my investments. BUT from all casino bankroll investment programs, Moneypot is the only one with -EV for now! Expect scams, of course.

Moneypot, you should change something radically.

4) Regarding the alts, I agreed with you at a certain level, but truthfully I can not speak on behalf of the others.

Myself and DodgeDigital are the only with any access to our servers. Additionally ever single query is logged in our cloud environment. I can provide proof of this. If any of us were to cheat, we would know.

5) The team is under a lot of stress and sometimes we have reached our wits end. We are only human, and again, please take my efforts to resolve our conflicts serious. Its the best for both of us.

6) Im not sure who declined any help. There has been specific times that I have directly interacted with some notable members in this community.

In the case of NotTardy, we didn't find any of their play to be irregular. Everything that we looked into checked out. We spent countless hours researching, communicating as a team, and attempting to identify and adverse actions.

Regardless of how much he/she deposited the idea of your site was to win a jackpot and they did so.  It would be no different from me buying a $5 lottery ticket and winning 20m. The user did go on to play at Yahoo's site and only after did I discover that the client seed length was not having a proper impact on the roll generation. This did not mean that their rolls were invalid, if anything it would be working against them as it would not be provably fair in his favor.

We actually would provide information if a cheat was found. While we would not disclose the exact details for legal reasons, we would have a duty to let our investors know.

thank you for the very straight forward answer without any stupid attacks  (that doesnt help at all anyway)

point 4) there is no reason for any additional alts for you as head dev or for the MP owners. it should be clear for all players and Investors who is who to follow them and their actions. for example if you would have one nick like "Head Dev" or Ranlo would have simple nick = "Ranlo" or Dogedigital would have simple nick = "Dogedigital" or Rango would have simple nick like "Rango" this I would call transparent.

lets take Rango as a bad example. he has many nicks and the nick " Blacksheep was very long hidden from all. he is a sick gambler and also bought apps and partnership and the app owners didnt know who he is. this STINKS! he also had server seeds access at given times.

that you stopped gambling for 8 month now is very positive and I am glad to hear this. (taking my hat off)  MP owners or any casino owner and devs shouldnt gamble and I am still staying to my statement.

point 5) MP owners till today are not accepting any criticism and even behaving like Dictators and the worst Dictator is AcoinL aka Rango aka Blacksheep aka MattN aka............... and sadly Dogedigiatl followed him. at least AcoinL got very quiet lastly

point 6) I talk about investigations MP owners announced here on BCT and even asked all for help and info and when someone want to help they declined it 
especially an important investigation like "NotTardy" and some more big winners. Investors should have the right to get better transparency. MP will never publish any cheat if their investigation was "positiv" and please dont try to convince me on the contrary.

"suicide" it was meant business wise. I understand your point because I was also in the army and was active in more than one war ( all know about my age cause I dont hide it). I hate war and Dictator ship and I am sure you will understand this. I learned to defend myself, family and comrades so I understand your point

please let me mention again that we at Jackpotracer always pointed out that MP business model is one of the best ideas but sadly it was sold to the wrong people

btw let me ask another question. how did the buckets idea work out? as far as I can see only one or 2 app owners are using it. and no faucet was imo a bad decision. how many apps have a bucket faucet?

best of luck

I am alive and well. I haven't been as active on the forefront as contrary to your beliefs, I have been highly active on the back-end of our applications.
Ill try to address your points to the best of my ability since my role focuses on development and not the business side of things:

1) MoneyPot strives to be as transparent as possible with investors. But like any business, some information is confidential.

2) I cannot comment on this as it is something that you would need to discuss with DogeDigital. There are many factors involved with this but I will say that I know that a plan is in the works.

3) MoneyPot has been extremely respectful to players and investors alike. On an extreme basis, such as yours, there have been times where the frustrations have gotten the best of people. We are only human. Please take into consideration that I am doing my best to resolve our differences at this time. I am being "respectful."

4) I can agree with you to a certain extent with this. However owners have always been transparent with their alts and there are cases when multiple alts are needed. I for one have two. I use one mainly for testing apps and another for testing against the upcoming production environments. Other owners may use an alt for "lurking" in chats. I cannot speak directly for them, but I have always been transparent.

My alts are Pumpkinspice and CCTestAccount. There was a time that I did gamble on MoneyPot. At the time, our majority investors were okay with it (still are) and the cost per coin was considerably less than it is today. I haven't gamble on MoneyPot or in reality, any casino, in over ~8 months.

5) We openly accept constructive criticism. There has been several occasions that I personally have admitted that I have could have done things better or admitted my wrong doings.

6) Since bitcoin and our services are largely "anonymous" and we have the responsibility to safe guard our users data, we are limited to what we can and cannot disclose. We have always been transparent on our investigations and always note of the outcome, however, transparency does not involve disclosing pivotal information about an investigation or player. This is to protect ourselves and the player in the event of any legal action.

I will tell you that every single MoneyPot account is tested against an in-house designed algorithm that attempts to score an accounts trust/threat level. Because this algorithm is proprietary, I will not discuss the details.

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Suicide is a serious matter and using it in jokes or slander is childish. I served in the military, and have personally lost friends who have committed suicide.

i think its no pain, no gain. people is attracted in investment because of the profit and they deposit some money and then they are hope for getting profit in some period of time. but what they found is many of the investment is scam but some of them is true and they really make money. if somehow they can really make money, then i think they are lucky in investment and they can continue for next investment.

nice to see you are still alive and caring about Moneypot

What I want? I would like to see actually nothing special but
- that Moneypot will be transparent towards Investors and Players
- that Moneypot will keep promises and compensating Investors as promised and not "Soon" (means never or in in a few years in
  case MP is still up and running)
- respect Investors and Players
- all Moneypot owners should only have 1 nick name and published so it will be transparent ( not like Rango, aka MattN, aka
  Blacksheep etc
- accepting critiques because critiques good or bad is always healthy
- publish any high winner investigation and outcome

I know and I am aware that the MP owners can do what they want because it is their business and their money they even can commit suicide


there will never be a guarantee for Profit but if all goes clean and without a cheat there is no better investment than in a casino Bank Roll! and only a question of time

I agree with you that with Moneypot it is very strange that the MP owners make money and no one else and they really dont care about Investors and Players and even accepting Rain from Players (what a shame)


Exactly! but then again the Owners need to be honest and not trying to cheat

When was investment a guarantee profit? No matter what investment you make, whether in the real life or in btc world, there is risk. It is just that the risk here is bigger but at the same time the reward is also bigger. In my country, i can only find investment vehicles with around 5% of dividend, profit etc. I also have invest in many other btc sites and you will be surprised that no all are making money. And even those who has shown profits consistently, if you invest at the wrong time, you will also loss. The key is just to wait it out and profit will come.

What you say is one of the worse thing you can assume in any investment. There is no such thing as "guaranteed profits" that would be stupid. There is always a risk involved in every investment. Which means there is a chance you could lose money or earn some. The higher the risk, the higher the chances of profiting. Nothing guaranteed.

Moneypot is surely a mysterious site even i have invested some bitcoins on it and after 5 months i still see I'm in loss which i didn't understand why as in past after 4 months my investment was a guarantee profit but now in moneypot it seemed impossible. It's better if you don't invest in moneypot as they make lot of profits but never really share with us

What do you want? What is the point for all of this? It has been going on months and months. Lets put an end to it mutually and work a way to go forward.

finally another investor is posting his straight forward opinion. thank you for that!

IMO you will get soon a PM from Dogedigital

I agree that Moneypot was and is a great business idea but it looks it is in the wrong hands (sadly)

The fire does not seem to go away even after so many months. Anyway i used to be a Moneypot investors. Have been there even before the takeover. In justice, Moneypot has been doing extremely well for the start. I never see any casino able to double my investment and Moneypot did that within a year. It was so successful that i remember the bankroll hit a record high of 1.2k BTC investment. However, things just go down from there. When i realise that there is no profit and then suddenly there is a huge payout, i still think it is normal. However, I am not convince when the huge payout happens one after another one. I am totally not good in finding out what happen but it is the same answers that is repeated over and over again that i start to smell things are not right that i withdraw. My 200% profit drop to 140% before i withdraw all. I invest in betking before spreading out to cryto and i did not regret at all.

clap clap clap Mike Mayor for not giving in to MP's Dictator ship behavior

that is exactly what Moneypot/Dictator ship is doing! they always PM the users who are posting something negative about MP to convince him to delete his posting. therefore Dogedigital is not quoting when he is answering because he thinks he is smart but he is not because he shows that he tries to cheat and manipulate other users.

he quoted you now because after the PM and your posting he knows you will not delete it

just check how long AcoinL aka Rango aka ......... aka ...... or Laremar aka Ranlo or CrazyCraig didnt answer for MP? I need to ask if they are still partner or Dogedigital is sole owner now?

I PM a lot of people to try and straighten facts and answer their questions.  I can't remember if I PM'd you, but it's definitely possible.

While the investment section isn't as high as we'd like, overall, Moneypot has made money on whole.  No disrespect intended whatsoever to Bustabit, but if they had investors and charged 25% of house edge (MP gave away 50%), investors would have lost there too (and I think Ryan is as straight as they come).

Not once did we send a withdrawal to a wrong address.  Our system is automated.  Can you point me in the direction of the person making that claim?

Lol I got a pm from moneypot for telling the truth that they suck and lost money for investors. Bow the hell do you lose money running a casino ? Rather funny how they rather pm you instead of fixing the problem. The idiot actually told me I was posting just to increase my post count. Ya .... Sure..... Let's go with that shall we.

Moneypot never made sense the investment constantly lost money. I withdrew long ago just to watch it all burn at it did. Also I know some people have had wierdoes things happen like withdrawing but it went to another address not there's. Hacker ? Who knows ?

I know that that has not happened elsewhere so. Man if you can't take flak get out of the game.

your lies have short legs and you are welcome to delete more of my postings because they all come back like a boomerang

but as you dont read all my postings I copy an important part in here cause you are proud to mention eeeth

my posting
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20152369

and there is written and for the poster @enquirer and his question to add from my side regarding eeeth

 a trusted user posted and then deleted. but why did he post this? to delete it?  he was warning you long ago and you guys as always didnt listen to him

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That said, I'd give MoneyPot a bit of slack. Just looking at http://eeeth.com/mpstats/ there clearly seems to be something wrong, I wouldn't blame them for being on a heightened state of alert (which is a good thing, as they need to safe guard investors money). "

These are the games you play that I am talking about.

The statistics are fine.  We don't hide the statistics and we encourage those interested to visit eeeth.com/mpstats to see a more detailed graph.

I deleted YOUR posts when they include attacks and don't add to the conversation.  We have never deleted anyone else's despite you trying to lead people to believe otherwise.

The problem is quite clearly the bolded part which you intentionally created to start FUD.