Topic: MoneyPot & Investors - page 3. (Read 2718 times)

Moneypot negative investor profit is very bad. How can investor lose so much but moneypot and dev profit?

I understand that there may be transparency issues and your believe that it is wrong for me to gamble on MP. The truth is, I could gamble behind the scenes and nobody would know. Doing it under my user account creates transparency and opens my play to the public. We log every query, anything abnormal sends an alert.

I am not a degenerate gambler. I gamble from time to time and am not dependent on gambling to survive. I did whale a point but quickly stopped when the value of bitcoin increased. At a brick and mortar casino, I play odds that relate to those of my bitcoin bets. $25-100, $200+ depending on certain circumstances.

There is nothing negative about owning an app on Moneypot. We are not in competition with each other. Stop looking at it like that. I have preached from day 1 that we need to operate together.

I created the app in an effort to learn and understand the API in a quick method. I would actually say this has been a positive for Moneypot because I have found bugs, have been able to relate with app owners, and have tailored future features around the experience I gathered owning an app.

Im not going to get involved in the business math / decisions of Moneypot. I am just a developer.

I also have nothing against you. I have never once created a shill to attack you. When I have voiced my frustrations with you its been under this account. I get frustrated with you at times because you fail to see my points and beat a dead horse.

Link?

What i heard is the Identity from the owners are known

Does anyone know the true identity of the money pot team?

Nearly one year ago MP Bankroll was only around 120BTC and maxpayout was 1.2BTC.

For me the biggest mistake is/was to lower the maxpayout to 0.5% from the bankroll. How should the IVP grow?

again wrong posting and calling me a Troll will not help you vice versa it shows you wont learn and stop talking BS and I call it an insult on my intellect. check my answer to your head dev

hi

I dont have any vendetta with MP I am just defending and not attacking

ok lets try to start a serious conversation/discussion with facts. I remember very well that we had some nice conversations (PMs) on slack when you started at MP

I also remember very well that you said the following about our app:
"your site has a good thing going for it.A solid Dev and you can take it to the next level. Truly thats all it really takes"

I really appreciated your comment.

but suddenly your changed your behavior and started to attack me and without any reason and even attacking normal users as my shill accounts.

IMO the head dev should not own an app because he has insider knowledge and always an advantage against any other app owner. he sure can have an app for testing but no one beside him and MP owners should have access to gamble on it.

you are gambling like a whale on your app and promised to stop and then started again. all those signs are showing to experienced casino owners (like us) that you are a gambler and a gambler should not have server seeds access and there should be no discussion about it. but sure we can do another Poll but IMO not needed cause it is again a question if 1 + 1 = 2?

why would you think it is an attack on your person? it is a given fact that a business like MP should not let the head dev or anyone with server seeds access gamble. I am sure if you think about it you will agree but if you just want to attack JPR you will say I am a Troll. it could be any other head dev working for MP. lets take Blacksheep aka AcoinL aka Matt etc he is also a gambler and I have nothing against gamblers but a gambler and MP owner it does not fit together and lets be clear about it that he had server seeds access at one point.

if MP owners and you would just accept the obvious stuff I am asking and talking about there should be no attack and I dont need to defend.

MP business model had a very good chance to work out very fine but looking at the BR you will agree that something went wrong and if MP will close or be sold again it is not because of JPR who asked some legit questions. MP did all the mistakes long ago.

please let me repeat that all my questions and postings are not to attack anyone but to get answers and fair solutions. but not giving any serious answers and only "soon" or you are a Troll will not satisfy me or any other normal person. I call it an attack of any ones intellect.

I hope you understand my point and we can get to a normal discussion with respect for each other

i could see why JackpotRacer nitpicking that particular part only but another user saying my English is bad! is it that bad or are you just messing with me.
i did some edits to make it more "grammatically correct" i hope that helped!

as a summary:
- the investment in moneypot is not the most profitable based on my observations.
- in the time i spent observing moneypot and also based on the link that i gave the loss was never big as OP claims.
- things that OP says such as accusing admins with database access to steal are just empty accusations without proof.

JPR I don't care what your vendetta is with Moneypot. Just please stop attacking me.

I'm just a developer and do not participate in business discussions. I have invested countless hours into the project. I'm invested myself and have not stolen. I'm actually in the process of buying 7-8 BTC and plan to invest more into MoneyPot.

You do not see what goes on in the backend, only the front. I am well aware that it might appear that little progress has been made. This is actually extremely false. I am a one man show managing servers, supporting legacy code, and developing for our future. We have several different platforms that power Moneypot.

I wasn't here in the beginning. I have been involved in the project since April? May? of last year and didn't take over the reins until June.

His language is hard to understand, I'm not sure what I'm going to say here is true, but I hope it helps you. He sees a lot of things develop, investment moneypot is an example of what he said. He has been looking at it for a long time, but it seems that the profit from it is not enough to attract him. And he has never seen an investment of any kind which is of great value - 400BTC for example. So, he needs the best ways to invest, and of course he does not need the accusations about it.
I hope I'm right with what he says, he has a very confusing language.
Regards
Paul

My experience with moneypot as an investor not so good for many months and so I just withdraw my investment and invested in other sites. Last time I also asked the question like why moneypot owners are not sharing losses and only taking profits? But somehow I didn't convince with the profit sharing model with investors so I just withdraw my funds. It is our money and no need to argue with the owners, if you think it is not for you then just not invest in it.

coul dyou please explain what you want to say with this paragraph? I really didnt understand it. you never saw 400 BTC! what do you mean? you never saw MP investors had 400 BTC profit? you didnt see deleted postings? how could you see deleted postings if it is not yours? I can show you a lot of my postings deleted by MP owner. but maybe I did not understand your point so please explain

thx

so much drama these days, what is up!

we know that investment moneypot (for some reason) has not bee the best for a long time. i watched it for a while when i wanted to invest and since i didn't see it as profitable i changed my mind. i never saw 400BTC or saw any deletion of posts or in general any shenanigan though. that is investment, some businesses are profitable and some aren't. learn to find the best to invest in, instead of making weird accusations.

there is also this topic here which had a public investment in moneypot and the OP of that thread stopped it since it wasn't going anywhere.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-gambling-investments-1585408

Lol so you suggest  he gambles the little money left he has on you I never heard about this 400btc loss of investors, something sure seems fishy there.

It seems moneypot is now at the bottom of wealth, i dont know the whole scenario but i remember JackPotRacer used to be best man advertising his app which was built on MP. Never-mind, if Dogetail wants to recover his money then i can suggest him to join me , i have fundamental trading project which is good and you can make upto 20% with it in 1 day, the major trade there is LISK , so let me know if you want investors to be paid off.

Regards,
Chevas

Oh. Ok. Got your point. Thanks.

you misunderstood me

RHavar called/titled Dogedigital in a posting in the old MP thread a clown (he wrote "you are behaving like a clown"). the clown is Dogedigital according to RHavar and it is not that I am saying that RHavar is a clown.

I hope I could clear this point and sorry for my bad english

cheers

Why do u call RHavar a clown? That guy appeared pretty sensible to me. Any context?

thx for posting your story and experience. may I ask to which site you switched with your investment? (no must though)

edit
did you see this Poll of mine?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1865749.new#new