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Quote from: suchmoon on March 18, 2022, 06:28:52 AM

Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on March 18, 2022, 04:43:41 AM

IIRC, BadBear had posted

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Name: BadBear
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Name: PrimeNumber7
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Date Registered: March 12, 2019, 06:45:31 AM

Should have used your other account here.

Okay SM, you got me. I guess I have no choice but to come clean and admit that I have read posts from before the day I registered my account. No, I didn't use a time machine to read posts from the past, I just reviewed the forum archives to see posts from the past. Anyone can do this.

Quote from: suchmoon on March 18, 2022, 06:28:52 AM

If the post is deleted by the author it's automatically marked as "Good" after a minute or two.

Do you have a source for this? Having to wait a minute for the status of a report to get updated is strange behavior. More importantly, a reporter's individual report stats are not necessarily important in these cases. What is important is that a mod sees the report, and has the opportunity to research the issue and take action.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on March 19, 2022, 03:13:58 PM

GazetaBitcoin, occasionally reporting spammers has become an addiction for me even for just a few posts. LOL

This may be difficult to understand for many people, but I totally understand you here. Two years ago I made 4000+ reports, last year I had 8000 and this year, from Jan 1st, almost 40.000. Yes, it's addictive. In some days I just stay and open in hundreds (sometimes thousands) of tabs the posts I intend to report and then, in the next day I just click on each tab the Submit" report button.

I remember that once I opened so many tabs that Firefox started to act laggy. I think I had more than 5000 tabs opened at that moment. Since then I don't open more than 2000-3000 tabs with future reports

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Quote from: GazetaBitcoin on March 19, 2022, 03:01:44 PM

I think that best approach is to temporary stop making reports similar to those unhandled ones and watch these ones for the next 30 days. In case that in 30 days they are still not handled this means that maybe you should avoid completely such reports. I learned that the hard way, after making 1500+ reports from Press board, which were never handled and now I have to carry with me forever a long queue of 1839 unhandled reports. (This is because you can't see in your report history the reports older than 30 days and mods can't see them anymore either.) Although that board is supposed to be for, as its own description says, "Notable press hits", it's not. A lot of spammers post there and nobody cares. The reports are never handled (you can take this also as a suggestion for avoiding making reports there too).

However, it's also possible that mods were just too busy lately and they will handle your reports, but not as soon as you make them. This is why I suggest to wait and see what happens with current unhandled reports.

Quote from: _BlackStar on March 19, 2022, 02:50:31 PM

^{[will keep spam hunting on other boards].}

This is the spirit

For example, Altcoins board is like cornucopia for spam busters.

Thanks for your suggestion, and now I'm going to stop doing it for the time being but it's still possible to report some nasty violations there.

As always, the altcoin board is like a rice bowl for spambusters and it really is the most popular place for spammers paradise where only a handful of quality posters take part in it. GazetaBitcoin, occasionally reporting spammers has become an addiction for me even for just a few posts. LOL

In the meantime, I will still wait for the results.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on March 19, 2022, 02:50:31 PM

At now, a total of 236 of my reports remain unhandled. I'm wondering what the reason is, but once you answer my question then it would be best if I don't deal with spam posts there anymore and stop reporting them

I think that best approach is to temporary stop making reports similar to those unhandled ones and watch these ones for the next 30 days. In case that in 30 days they are still not handled this means that maybe you should avoid completely such reports. I learned that the hard way, after making 1500+ reports from Press board, which were never handled and now I have to carry with me forever a long queue of 1839 unhandled reports. (This is because you can't see in your report history the reports older than 30 days and mods can't see them anymore either.) Although that board is supposed to be for, as its own description says, "Notable press hits", it's not. A lot of spammers post there and nobody cares. The reports are never handled (you can take this also as a suggestion for avoiding making reports there too).

However, it's also possible that mods were just too busy lately and they will handle your reports, but not as soon as you make them. This is why I suggest to wait and see what happens with current unhandled reports.

Quote from: _BlackStar on March 19, 2022, 02:50:31 PM

^{[will keep spam hunting on other boards].}

This is the spirit

For example, Altcoins board is like cornucopia for spam busters.

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Quote from: suchmoon on March 18, 2022, 09:05:30 AM

I've noticed that very little if anything gets deleted e.g. in soccer discussion threads, even lame shit like "this team won this team is very good because player X played well and very good coach and " and yes, it's coming in bursts of posts across a few threads once or twice a week to fulfill their Gambling board quotas. I have mostly stopped reporting those, waste of time. Maybe I just don't understand soccer - this could be the expected level of intelligence for those discussions.

I would probably stop reporting posts like that if the mod wouldn't handle it for long times.

At now, a total of 236 of my reports remain unhandled. I'm wondering what the reason is, but once you answer my question then it would be best if I don't deal with spam posts there anymore and stop reporting them ^{[will keep spam hunting on other boards].}

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Quote from: _BlackStar on March 18, 2022, 08:14:28 AM

The problem however is, 98% of the posts I report on that gambling section are left unhandled while posts on other boards are almost 100% handled with tag good. So far I don't know what the problem is, could you please tell me about it and should I stop reporting posts on gambling board if it is unhandled in a long time?

I've noticed that very little if anything gets deleted e.g. in soccer discussion threads, even lame shit like "this team won this team is very good because player X played well and very good coach and " and yes, it's coming in bursts of posts across a few threads once or twice a week to fulfill their Gambling board quotas. I have mostly stopped reporting those, waste of time. Maybe I just don't understand soccer - this could be the expected level of intelligence for those discussions.

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I have had several reports in the gambling section where the reports were unhandled by the mod to date. I truly believe that users are spammers and the posts I report are made just to fulfill the signature campaign quota without caring about quality. I don't see them as quality posters where almost 100% of their efforts are spam.

The problem however is, 98% of the posts I report on that gambling section are left unhandled while posts on other boards are almost 100% handled with tag good. So far I don't know what the problem is, could you please tell me about it and should I stop reporting posts on gambling board if it is unhandled in a long time?

I'm willing to tell you via PM about some users I think are spammers ^{[if necessary]} and you can verify for yourself.

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Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on March 18, 2022, 04:43:41 AM

IIRC, BadBear had posted that if you report a post as being an excessive bump, and that post gets deleted (by the OP), your report will also get deleted (or presumably in a prominent status of "unhandled").

If the post is deleted by the author it's automatically marked as "Good" after a minute or two.

Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on March 18, 2022, 04:43:41 AM

IIRC, BadBear had posted

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Name: BadBear
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Name: PrimeNumber7
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Date Registered: March 12, 2019, 06:45:31 AM

Should have used your other account here.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on March 17, 2022, 04:56:33 AM

They will be counted if you nuke a user someone has reported a post of. For instance, if a spambot appears and makes a spam post, someone will report that post. If a mod sees that report and straight up nukes that account (I believe) that will auto handle the report and credit them with the action. If I just nuked someone without a report it might count somehow in the payment algorithm but it probably wouldn't be counted in the report stats. Theymos could probably scrape the nuke stats but he doesn't post them anywhere.

IIRC, BadBear had posted that if you report a post as being an excessive bump, and that post gets deleted (by the OP), your report will also get deleted (or presumably in a prominent status of "unhandled").

The above may does not exactly match a newbie having a post reported who is nuked. Assuming theymos is not going to comment on the affect of nuking a user on any reports against that user, someone could report a single post made by a newbie, a mod could nuke said newbie, and the user could see what happens to their report stats.

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Quote from: Welsh on March 16, 2022, 07:57:13 PM

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If rely on the statistics in the first post, then this is a new forum record for the number of reports sent per month. The previous one lasted over 3 years.

Yeah, although I do expect this number to go back to normal levels in the next few weeks.

It seems like the people reporting the old bumps have slowed to a halt. Either they got bored or run out of ones to report as there's only going to be so many to find. I think they peaked last month as I alone handled an insane amount.

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Quote from: Welsh on March 16, 2022, 07:57:13 PM

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I have this question. On the page https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php, the following lines are often found:

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Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #3455015

Such actions of moderators are included in the monthly report statistics, and if not, are they taken into account anywhere at all? Or is there no counting for such nuke actions?

They will be counted if you nuke a user someone has reported a post of. For instance, if a spambot appears and makes a spam post, someone will report that post. If a mod sees that report and straight up nukes that account (I believe) that will auto handle the report and credit them with the action. If I just nuked someone without a report it might count somehow in the payment algorithm but it probably wouldn't be counted in the report stats. Theymos could probably scrape the nuke stats but he doesn't post them anywhere.

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If rely on the statistics in the first post, then this is a new forum record for the number of reports sent per month. The previous one lasted over 3 years.

Yeah, although I do expect this number to go back to normal levels in the next few weeks. There's been a lot of users which have seemed to have come back recently, and pick up their old habits of reporting, which is nice to see. Although, at least on the reports I see, a lot of these reports are coming from here, which is getting close to being completely cleaned.

I do know there's a lot of reports happening in the marketplace section of the forum, though. So, while I said I expect it to go back down to normal levels, it'll probably be a little bit above that. Nice to see users are now becoming a little more motivated in reporting though, as we did have a few months which seemed like quite a few users turned a little hostile towards reporting.

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Period Jan 25 - Feb 24. In this period, 53968 reports handled as good, 490 handled as bad, 387 unhandled.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on February 15, 2022, 05:33:34 AM

Period Dec 26 - Jan 25. In this period, 30232 reports handled as good, 711 handled as bad, 299 unhandled.

Thanks. The best result in terms of the number of reports in the last 2 years. Interestingly, is there any data in which particular section was the main number of reports sent out of these 30 000?

I think it was Marketplace and Altcoin sections.

Only theymos will have that data. Anecdotally I would say that it's the marketplace right now due to people reporting a lot of old bumps. Then maybe spam in alt coin sections.

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Period Dec 26 - Jan 25. In this period, 30232 reports handled as good, 711 handled as bad, 299 unhandled.

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Quote from: actmyname on January 20, 2022, 04:52:57 PM

An interesting stat to measure would be the percentage of posts that have been deleted, either across the forum or (better) within each board.

It feels as though certain boards would have a number 20%+ or higher, were all the spam posts to be reported.

I would say most sections would have over a 20% handled ratio, as opposed to bad or unhandled reports. I'd go as far as saying its probably well over 50%. What would be interesting is seeing the amount of posts deleted which haven't been reported across the forum, unless that's what you meant. I expect that the final figure would probably show how vital reports are in the grand scheme of things.

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An interesting stat to measure would be the percentage of posts that have been deleted, either across the forum or (better) within each board.

It feels as though certain boards would have a number 20%+ or higher, were all the spam posts to be reported.

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Quote from: LoyceV on January 19, 2022, 03:29:08 AM

is that incentivized in any way?

I'd say its probably best to avoid thinking what's best for the moderators in terms of getting paid, and just use common sense when reporting. So, if the thread is fairly obvious what needs to be removed or the user in question is a mass spammer, then its probably more time efficient for both the moderator, and yourself to just report with a "check post history" rather than going through their entire post history, and reporting it.

Same as threads, sometimes with obvious cases its just best to report one post, and indicate there's more posts like it in the thread. For example, a lot users do this with bumps.

Also, sometimes when reporting consecutive reports some users report each post, when really only one needs to be reported.

Quote from: hilariousetc on January 19, 2022, 04:37:38 AM

The way staff are paid can't be perfect though as it doesn't take into consideration PMs reported and issues handled with that. I've suggested before that PM reports should also go into a queue which can be handled/marked bad like current reports are. Hopefully it will be on the new forum.

I always assumed they went into the same queue as traditional reports. I'm assuming that its the default way that SMF handles these types of reports, and its too much hassle to change rather than it being intentional?

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Quote from: LoyceV on January 19, 2022, 03:29:08 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on January 18, 2022, 08:39:28 AM

Also, theymos changed the payment algorithm back in May and now I think it's more proportional to how many reports you handle so maybe that's a factor. I know I at least have to handle a lot more reports for the payments to be anywhere near how they used to be before the change so maybe everyone is handling more now to keep up.

Out of curiosity: if I report one post and write: "many shitposts, please check post history", and the Mod deletles spam from his post history, does that earn the Mod something too? Or just in general if a Mod removes a post that hasn't been reported: is that incentivized in any way?

I wouldn't know ultimately as theymos keeps the actual details of the algorithm secret so mods can't try game it. Makes sense really as many mods would probably just concentrate on what earned them the most if they knew. The weighting of merely just deleting a post is probably minimal though and it's actually handling the report that will be the bulk of it so if you really wanted to help mods reports are where it's at, but at the same time it's not always necessary for you to waste your time reporting every post. If deleting a post carried a lot of weight staff might be more heavy handed and start removing posts that don't really need to be removed so maybe that's another good reason. The way staff are paid can't be perfect though as it doesn't take into consideration PMs reported and issues handled with that. I've suggested before that PM reports should also go into a queue which can be handled/marked bad like current reports are. Hopefully it will be on the new forum.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on January 18, 2022, 08:39:28 AM

Also, theymos changed the payment algorithm back in May and now I think it's more proportional to how many reports you handle so maybe that's a factor. I know I at least have to handle a lot more reports for the payments to be anywhere near how they used to be before the change so maybe everyone is handling more now to keep up.

Out of curiosity: if I report one post and write: "many shitposts, please check post history", and the Mod deletles spam from his post history, does that earn the Mod something too? Or just in general if a Mod removes a post that hasn't been reported: is that incentivized in any way?

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Quote from: Welsh on January 18, 2022, 03:13:10 PM

Yeah, report anything that you believe to be spam. The moderator handling it will use their own discretion. If it's not immediately obvious what your reporting it for, include as much detail as possible. However, in general anyone posting low quality content in order to satisfy their signature campaign quota can be reported to the moderators, as well as the signature campaign manager.

Thanks, I got a satisfactory answer from the moderator. The first step is how can I detect spammers and who is doing it just to fulfill their weekly quota, this will surely be difficult but I will do my best without any interest ^{[only contributions].}

Previously I have also managed to detect them in several campaign and I have reported them to the manager, of course I didn't do it because I don't want them to be paid but I can say that every post and their activity is never for the sake of the forum ^[quality] but only for personal interests ^[quantity].

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