Topic: Monthly Report Statistics - page 5. (Read 3786 times)
This happens when you create a system for ranking up in a pyramidical structure form, in a long term you'll be left with a group of high ranks, decreasing traffic, number of off topic posts to report, forum needs to be fed with new blood. One way for it is by removing merit from the ranking requirement, another way is by giving merits and smerits to reporters. Personally having smerits is an incentive for me to actively report.
It is a chart for Monthly Report Statistics since 2016. Enjoy!
The vertical red lines are for 01January dates. It seems reporters expectedly to have rest times in Christmas and New year holidays.
The vertical red lines are for 01January dates. It seems reporters expectedly to have rest times in Christmas and New year holidays.
That's why I think theymos should introduce badges with a couple of small perks to make it worthwhile. Reporting is a thankless task and most get bored of doing it pretty quickly so at least offer a small incentive/thanks.
The only thing is; if it isn't implemented correctly then the novelty will wear off, and we'll be back where we started. Currently, we don't have much motivation for reporting other than helping out. However, it does seem that a lot of users don't find that motivating enough, which again is fine. As you've talked about it, as well as I, and several others it's largely a thankless task. So, for reporting badges to see long term success we probably need to offer badges based on total reports, as well as within a certain time period; say monthly. So, the top monthly reporters get a badge to distinguish that, as well as badges for all time reports. Implementing a leader board, has it's downsides due to abuse, but would probably motivate a lot of users.
As well, as having large enough badges that users don't achieve them all within a year or two. Since. a lot of users are now either at or approaching 100k reports.
I guess if we get the next statistics period from Dec to Jan there will be a grow up on them again maybe.
Also i dont know if the Bot from Mitchell also counts to the reports that shown in the statistics , maybe hilariousandco can light us or me up on that.
And yes i think that the badges thing would animate more USers to report things .
Also i dont know if the Bot from Mitchell also counts to the reports that shown in the statistics , maybe hilariousandco can light us or me up on that.
And yes i think that the badges thing would animate more USers to report things .
That's why I think theymos should introduce badges with a couple of small perks to make it worthwhile. Reporting is a thankless task and most get bored of doing it pretty quickly so at least offer a small incentive/thanks.
I have nothing against badges, but I think that it should be taken into account that the lowest limit for obtaining them is set high enough that it cannot be reached easily, and on the other hand, that it does not demotivate users to start making reports at all. And while we wait for that to happen, maybe it would be good to publish the list of top reporters for last year and the year before last, because if badges are any kind of technical challenge, the list certainly isn't.
Rest assured, the number of posts has decreased, but the number of shitposts has remained the same, and maybe even increased.
If what you are saying is true, that despite the number of posts going 50% down the amount of shitposts remained the same or even increased, that would mean that forum became much worse place than it was just a year ago. I honestly haven't noticed such a big change, at least not in the parts of the forum where I am active. Now the trend has begun to work in the opposite direction, and many moments are forgiven. Even plagiarists are not touched if he has a high rank. Just recently I found a plagiarist who has over 10 plagiarisms, and they are on the forum right now, they have not been removed. The user is aware of them and is not in a hurry to correct them, continues to calmly wear a signature and receives money. And no one touches him, apparently the global moderators have an amnesty period, they forgive everyone who is older than the newbie rank.
I have to agree with this, situation changed dramatically in that regard and while few years ago high ranking accounts were getting permanenly banned for a sentence they plagiarized years ago (which was too harsh imho), now mods became too lenient and letting obvious offender walk around like nothing happened (good example of that is naim027 who is still roaming around). That's why I think theymos should introduce badges with a couple of small perks to make it worthwhile. Reporting is a thankless task and most get bored of doing it pretty quickly so at least offer a small incentive/thanks.
There is a userscript coded by @mpreptheymos approved SMF patch from PowerGlove and I don't know difference between userscript and SMF patch but if there is a little adjustment to convert a userscript to a SMF patch, theymos will more easily to apply it.
@PowerGlove, could you help please?
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Period Nov 21 - Dec 21. In this period, 3405 reports handled as good, 267 handled as bad, 107 unhandled.
A new forum's anti-record for the last 7 years? It is sad that such a function of the forum as reporting is going through hard times. Apparently all the active reporters fled.
That's why I think theymos should introduce badges with a couple of small perks to make it worthwhile. Reporting is a thankless task and most get bored of doing it pretty quickly so at least offer a small incentive/thanks.
A new forum's anti-record for the last 7 years? It is sad that such a function of the forum as reporting is going through hard times. Apparently all the active reporters fled.
Since forum activity has been in decline for years (e.g during 12/2021 287k posts were written and just one year later that number dropped to 147k during 12/2022), its only natural that amount of posts deleted goes down as well. The only way I see this trend changes is if mods/admins become much stricter but whether that's in forum interest is another question. Or if theymos introduces reporting badges or something among those lines, but then I can see people trying to abuse that and even create their own garbage in order to report it.
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Period Nov 21 - Dec 21. In this period, 3405 reports handled as good, 267 handled as bad, 107 unhandled.
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Period Oct 22 - Nov 21. In this period, 8746 reports handled as good, 275 handled as bad, 1840 unhandled.
Only theymos, and possibility Cyrus has access to that information. There's been suggestions that this sort of thing gets implemented publicly, but I don't know what theymos' opinion is of that. I'd be in support of it, maybe having a opt out for privacy sake, but considering theymos has had no issue publishing the list of reporters in the past, I wouldn't of thought it be too much of a problem.
Asking theymos for information is a gamble, I am not taking the risk 😉I sent you a PM, just in case you miss it, please check.
Thanks brother.
Is it possible to know top three reporters from the last year December to till date please?
Only theymos, and possibility Cyrus has access to that information. There's been suggestions that this sort of thing gets implemented publicly, but I don't know what theymos' opinion is of that. I'd be in support of it, maybe having a opt out for privacy sake, but considering theymos has had no issue publishing the list of reporters in the past, I wouldn't of thought it be too much of a problem. I imagine the reporter list hasn't changed too drastically, in terms of users. The reports I receive are generally from the same users.
Period Sep 22 - Oct 22. In this period, 8877 reports handled as good, 291 handled as bad, 1215 unhandled.
Is it possible to know top three reporters from the last year December to till date please? My interpretation is that a Mod isn't sure ("not great, not terrible"). My most recent example: this post has been "unhandled" for 2 days. I assume each Mod doesn't want to remove it because they're not sure that's justified, but they also don't want to mark it as Bad, so other Mods can also have a look at it.
The obvious reports usually don't stay "unhandled" for long.
Yeah, definitely borderline reports are more likely to stay in unhandled status than straight forward cases. I'll need to come up with some examples, which I was struggling for the other day. I was going to do it for my reporting effectively guide I made a few years ago. There's just some instances were a soft bad is more appropriate than handled it as a bad report, and it's usually something along the lines of a borderline case. The obvious reports usually don't stay "unhandled" for long.
One example would be malicious links or distributing malware. While the moderator might agree that it looks malicious, verifying that can sometimes be difficult, and hence they can sometimes go unhandled, which isn't ideal, but verifying something like that is rather difficult. There's a lot of work involved actually verifying whether something is unsafe. Users reporting tend to rely on online virus checkers, but they routinely false flag mining programs as an example.
What makes a report go as unhandled status and why is it not later handled?
My interpretation is that a Mod isn't sure ("not great, not terrible"). My most recent example: this post has been "unhandled" for 2 days. I assume each Mod doesn't want to remove it because they're not sure that's justified, but they also don't want to mark it as Bad, so other Mods can also have a look at it.The obvious reports usually don't stay "unhandled" for long.
What makes a report go as unhandled status and why is it not later handled?
What i know and understand is, like when user A and user B report the same post with the same description (say moving on particular board or etc.) at different time. At the time of handling, when mod A handled the report from user A the remarks will be "Good". Then later on say a mere seconds passed, mod B handled the report of user B which is already handled by the mod A (already moved to the reported board) the report will be remarked as "Unhandled"
Well, that's only my guess, much better if a mod will give an specific example.
If I may ask, why are there unhandled reports? Are the unhandled reports handled in the next month? Do they stay unhandled? I'm pretty sure they stay unhandled as I have 14 unhandled posts in my history and only 3 of them are recent.
What makes a report go as unhandled status and why is it not later handled?
Unhandled reports are simply that, reports which have not been handled for whatever reason. The reason can vary, in some instances it's probably the best thing to do. I'm failing to come up with any good examples, but there's been plenty of times where I've personally elected to do it. What makes a report go as unhandled status and why is it not later handled?
However, the unhandled reports in this statistic is likely they were unhandled at the time of theymos scraping the data, hence why it varies from each period. So, a large majority of those were probably handled later. That would be my guess.
As for your unhandled reports. Some reports do stay unhandled indefinitely. This is when no one has taken an action on them, and then they eventually fall out of everyone's report queue. I don't know the exact time frame that is, but it does happen.
If I may ask, why are there unhandled reports? Are the unhandled reports handled in the next month? Do they stay unhandled? I'm pretty sure they stay unhandled as I have 14 unhandled posts in my history and only 3 of them are recent.
What makes a report go as unhandled status and why is it not later handled?
A report isn't marked as such, it just becomes 'unhandled' when it's been in the queue for x amount of time and is eventually pruned.
Partial answer, still searching this thread for more.
AFAIK, the mods have a restricted board where they can discuss reports and in a case where a report is presented and no one can come up with a solution, it will be marked as bad.
AFAIK, the mods have a restricted board where they can discuss reports and in a case where a report is presented and no one can come up with a solution, it will be marked as bad.
Unhandled means it was not picked up by any mod at all; you only take action when something is handled. These numbers are insane, and there must be leftover cases every month; I'm curious if these unhandled cases are cleared every month. to make way for fresh cases?
Unhandled means it was not picked up by any mod at all; you only take action when something is handled. These numbers are insane, and there must be leftover cases every month; I'm curious if these unhandled cases are cleared every month. to make way for fresh cases?
I assume the unhandled cases are not ‘cleared’ every month as they would not show up in your report history anymore ?
Isn't there a standard? Do moderators not all agree on issues reported? Maybe there should be a standard?
What makes a report go as unhandled status and why is it not later handled?
When a report is market as "unhandled", is it because moderators were busy or something or is it a way to acknowledge the report is not bad but not so good as to act either?
A report isn't marked as such, it just becomes 'unhandled' when it's been in the queue for x amount of time and is eventually pruned.
When a report is market as "unhandled", is it because moderators were busy or something or is it a way to acknowledge the report is not bad but not so good as to act either?
From my perspective, reports remain unhandled because no mod decided to take any action, based on their judgement. The report may technically not be bad (cause it would be marked as such), but it's a complicated situation and each mods chooses not to act. AFAIK, the mods have a restricted board where they can discuss reports and in a case where a report is presented and no one can come up with a solution, it will be marked as bad.
When a report is market as "unhandled", is it because moderators were busy or something or is it a way to acknowledge the report is not bad but not so good as to act either?
From my perspective, reports remain unhandled because no mod decided to take any action, based on their judgement. The report may technically not be bad (cause it would be marked as such), but it's a complicated situation and each mods chooses not to act. AFAIK, the mods have a restricted board where they can discuss reports and in a case where a report is presented and no one can come up with a solution, it will be marked as bad.
Unhandled means it was not picked up by any mod at all; you only take action when something is handled. These numbers are insane, and there must be leftover cases every month; I'm curious if these unhandled cases are cleared every month. to make way for fresh cases?
Unhandled means it was not picked up by any mod at all; you only take action when something is handled. These numbers are insane, and there must be leftover cases every month; I'm curious if these unhandled cases are cleared every month. to make way for fresh cases?
I assume the unhandled cases are not ‘cleared’ every month as they would not show up in your report history anymore ?
Isn't there a standard? Do moderators not all agree on issues reported? Maybe there should be a standard?
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Period Sep 22 - Oct 22. In this period, 8877 reports handled as good, 291 handled as bad, 1215 unhandled.
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