Moolah Scam on Mintpal - Reporting Missing Coins - page 49.

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Quote from: BagHolder010 on November 08, 2014, 11:35:27 PM

I wonder how people would get their coins back if they just put whoever responsible in jail; I don't think I was the only one who doubled he's coins so even if it was Ryan he would have to pay more than what he stole "that if he did really stole coins"

To me it's a mix of people using BTC for personal benefits and a major technical issue.

They can be effectively "Motivated" to do the right thing.
Just as Alex said he would do BUT had not yet.

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I wonder how people would get their coins back if they just put whoever responsible in jail; I don't think I was the only one who doubled he's coins so even if it was Ryan he would have to pay more than what he stole "that if he did really stole coins"

To me it's a mix of people using BTC for personal benefits and a major technical issue.

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Quote from: BlockaFett on October 15, 2014, 02:20:29 AM

Quote from: mentaldepth on October 15, 2014, 02:04:22 AM

I still have an open ticket, sent 1,000,000 karma coin to mintpal and nothing arrived, I have been told they are investigating.

thanks, I added a section to the OP to list any coins returned since listed here, let me know if you get anything back.

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There might be bits of important information some people have they
are not aware of how it will greatly aid this cause.

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Quote from: coinism on November 08, 2014, 09:51:52 AM

Now that mintpal is gone. maybe Exco.in will replace it. site looks awesome, something mintpal should be https://exco.in/

No thanks!
Why should we trust this site?
It might just be another scam !

I Think thats the 3rd party exchange for Blackcoin, its down for now..

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Quote from: ontopicplease on November 08, 2014, 07:17:19 AM

Hi, just like most you I was a mintpal victim, managed to get a few coins out, but still have a lot XMR there. The problem with XMR getting out, was I wasn't sure what to fill in regarding address and payment id/destination tag. Mintpal only offered the possibility to fill in the address, there was no option to fill in a destination tag. How did you guys solve this.
I am aware that it is probably all a bit too late, but still am curious

I have quite a few XMR there also. I just put in the payment ID (supplied by Poloniex) in the notes section (as I don't have a wallet on my computer).
Note - For a personal wallet, you don't need a payment ID, just the address.

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Now that mintpal is gone. maybe Exco.in will replace it. site looks awesome, something mintpal should be https://exco.in/

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Quote from: Minted on November 08, 2014, 09:37:56 AM

Is there any case/claim against Mintpal, seperate from Moolah, claiming against them for the loss of our coins?

No idea. I think there's supposed to be eventually. But, having said that, you have to be your own best advocate. Don't rely on Mintpal or anybody else to get your coins back. If you want them, you'll need to go after them. Everyone looks after number 1 first - Mintpal will look after itself first; Syscoin devs will look after themselves first; etc. (which is appropriate).

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Quote from: Revelation on November 08, 2014, 02:53:52 AM

What have you done apart from wining on this forum?

A hell of a lot more research and coin tracing and detective work than you.

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Is there any case/claim against Mintpal, seperate from Moolah, claiming against them for the loss of our coins?

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Quote from: count_cyrpto on November 08, 2014, 07:56:19 AM

Quote from: Mr Felt on November 07, 2014, 10:17:41 AM

Update on Syscoin's involuntary bankruptcy action against MooPay here:

https://network23.org/dogecoin/2014/11/07/winding-it-up/.

Ok, so I'm going through the process of of filling out this paperwork. Can someone walk it through to make sure we're all writing the correct information?

1. Name of creditor = MOOPAY LIMITED (Company Number 08920347)

2. Address of creditor for correspondence. = 1st Floor, 2 Woodberry Grove, Finchley, London N120DR

3. Total amount = 1.60817516 BTC

4. Details of any documents by reference to which the debt can be substantiated = Still have access to the site showing balance. Screen snapshot? What else could I add to this field?

5. If amount in 3 above includes outstanding uncapitalised interest please state amount. = N/A

6. Particulars of how and when debt incurred (If you need more space append a continuation sheet to this form). What should I add in this field?

7. Particulars of any security held, the value of the security, and the date it was given. = N/A?

8. Particulars of any reservation of title claimed in respect of goods supplied to which the claim relates. = N/A?

You are the creditor; Moo = debtor (going of U.S. BK Code's use of the terms). Anyone who has a potential claim against Moo = creditor. Syscoin = creditor; Mintpal = creditor; etc. In the U.S., there would be one pot and all the creditors get to battle over the order of bites from the apple. Incidentally, this is why I'm curious about Syscoin and Mintpal having the same counsel - they seem like adverse parties. In the U.S., they wouldn't have the same attorney because they may potentially have to fight over the pot as GUCs (General Unsecured Creditors).

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Quote from: Mr Felt on November 07, 2014, 10:17:41 AM

Update on Syscoin's involuntary bankruptcy action against MooPay here:

https://network23.org/dogecoin/2014/11/07/winding-it-up/.

Ok, so I'm going through the process of of filling out this paperwork. Can someone walk it through to make sure we're all writing the correct information?

1. Name of creditor = MOOPAY LIMITED (Company Number 08920347)

2. Address of creditor for correspondence. = 1st Floor, 2 Woodberry Grove, Finchley, London N120DR

3. Total amount = 1.60817516 BTC

4. Details of any documents by reference to which the debt can be substantiated = Still have access to the site showing balance. Screen snapshot? What else could I add to this field?

5. If amount in 3 above includes outstanding uncapitalised interest please state amount. = N/A

6. Particulars of how and when debt incurred (If you need more space append a continuation sheet to this form). What should I add in this field?

7. Particulars of any security held, the value of the security, and the date it was given. = N/A?

8. Particulars of any reservation of title claimed in respect of goods supplied to which the claim relates. = N/A?

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Hi, just like most you I was a mintpal victim, managed to get a few coins out, but still have a lot XMR there. The problem with XMR getting out, was I wasn't sure what to fill in regarding address and payment id/destination tag. Mintpal only offered the possibility to fill in the address, there was no option to fill in a destination tag. How did you guys solve this.
I am aware that it is probably all a bit too late, but still am curious

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Thing is the community indeed can't be based on the Syscoin legal efforts... say Ryan gives the BTCs to Syscoin to get off the legal hook... what about the rest that are owed thousands of BTCs? There would simply be no case for them (except the complaints filed in the fraud fighting unit - which from what I understand is somewhat bureaucratic in their response times and methods).

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Quote from: slax0r on November 08, 2014, 12:06:13 AM

It is seemingly nice and all that the Syscoin devs have supposedly filed their papers (although I haven't found proof of that anywhere in the court record). Doesn't anyone remember the scandal that happened when Moolah co-sponsored the launch and then held the 250 BTC escrow for Sysoin's outrageously shady ICO and then failed coin launch? Curious how those coins aren't missing, don't you think?

There is definitely a rat there. Don't trust the Syscoin devs to be of any help to anyone other than to help Alex/Ryan get away with our coins and cause great damage to the cryptocurrency scene.

piss off ryan

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Quote from: slax0r on November 08, 2014, 12:06:13 AM

It is seemingly nice and all that the Syscoin devs have supposedly filed their papers (although I haven't found proof of that anywhere in the court record). Doesn't anyone remember the scandal that happened when Moolah co-sponsored the launch and then held the 250 BTC escrow for Sysoin's outrageously shady ICO and then failed coin launch? Curious how those coins aren't missing, don't you think?

There is definitely a rat there. Don't trust the Syscoin devs to be of any help to anyone other than to help Alex/Ryan get away with our coins and cause great damage to the cryptocurrency scene.

They are fighting against Ryan through courts and are working with Ferdous. What have you done apart from wining on this forum?

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It is seemingly nice and all that the Syscoin devs have supposedly filed their papers (although I haven't found proof of that anywhere in the court record). Doesn't anyone remember the scandal that happened when Moolah co-sponsored the launch and then held the 250 BTC escrow for Sysoin's outrageously shady ICO and then failed coin launch? Curious how those coins aren't missing, don't you think?

There is definitely a rat there. Don't trust the Syscoin devs to be of any help to anyone other than to help Alex/Ryan get away with our coins and cause great damage to the cryptocurrency scene.

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Where should the Proof of Debt form be sent? Is there even an official receiver yet?

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Quote from: SnjafSnjaf on November 07, 2014, 03:28:35 PM

Quote from: Mr Felt on November 07, 2014, 02:15:19 PM

Quote from: DonQuijote on November 07, 2014, 12:10:08 PM

Some twitter updates from mintpal, but no news about our BTCs

I'd encourage you to file a creditor's claim in the current insolvency proceeding. See my last post in this thread. You don't want to be left out in the cold when the receiver starts selling off MooPay's assets (possibly Ryan's personal assets if they were purchased with ill-gotten gains (e.g., sports cars)) to pay Syscoin devs and others who have filed such a claim. In other words, you need to investigate to what extent you need to be on the receiver's creditor list to protect your interests. If the process is similar to bankruptcy actions in the U.S., its not terribly hard or burdensome - may be free even.

These forms can be filled and sent in even if someone is not from UK?

yes

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Quote from: Mr Felt on November 07, 2014, 02:15:19 PM

Quote from: DonQuijote on November 07, 2014, 12:10:08 PM

Some twitter updates from mintpal, but no news about our BTCs

I'd encourage you to file a creditor's claim in the current insolvency proceeding. See my last post in this thread. You don't want to be left out in the cold when the receiver starts selling off MooPay's assets (possibly Ryan's personal assets if they were purchased with ill-gotten gains (e.g., sports cars)) to pay Syscoin devs and others who have filed such a claim. In other words, you need to investigate to what extent you need to be on the receiver's creditor list to protect your interests. If the process is similar to bankruptcy actions in the U.S., its not terribly hard or burdensome - may be free even.

These forms can be filled and sent in even if someone is not from UK?

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