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I have no idea why he was so fixated on the fraud part, if I believe someone is doing shady things then I will usually make that clearly known. Like with MF trying to get me to sweep Barry's debt under the rug and just let him keep my coins, or him offering me a fraction of my BTC back to leave it alone after so I wouldn't hurt his investment.

This is correct. The MOON community doesn't owe me anything and it would be unfair to ask them to provide me the money they didn't take. I said long ago that I had already accepted the loss of BTC.

Didn't post for awhile.
Glad to see some good activity of the community. Sad to see that the thread became toxic.
A lot of fear, a lot of anger.

I will try to answer real questions (about SmartLikes, about issues with Proof-of-Stake and with Proof-of-human algos etc. and why the community had chosen Proof-of-Work and about barrysty1e's protection) and your messages in upcoming days.
Remember that I'm just an investor like you. I'm not a crypto coder. I'm not familiar with barrysty1e, Vassilis and other Mooncoin devs.
I communicated with them only via PM and transparent posting in this forum. I deliberately was not active for awhile, not to look like I speak on behalf of community in this situation. The community decides everything.

Now the consensus is clear: 1 person (coinflow) said to burn no coins, 1 person claimed several millions, 1 person (probably without knowing the situation) posted he's against forks, burns etc, and A LOT of people voted by their posts for burning of coins.

Also there is no 'Foundation' group. 'Foundation' is just a word in my nickname, it's my Bitcointalk account. That's disclosured in the OP.
We are not familiar in real life with coinflow, agswinner and other users.
2 years ago I suggested to make a conference in Europe to meet with coinflow, agswinner and other investors, an user coinflow (a recognised Mooncoin leader in 2014-2016) blocked the idea. We don't know each other yet.

In fact I'm familiar with no one from Bitcointalk in real life.
I'm one Mooncoin investor who started my account and this ANN thread to help the community (the original thread was outdated after disappearing in 2014 of deaconboogie, an original dev of Mooncoin, after he had reported health issues). If you need to update the original post of this ANN thread with some actual info, please tell me. Unfortunately, other things don't depend on me, but we have a strong community, since 2014 it survived many devs. Now it is just another crisis, we saw many of them during several years. Anyway the project is growing. Don't believe? Look at Mooncoin's network hashrate. In 2014 it was about 1GH/sec, and now?

Good morning ! I prefer this attitude 100% ! 

see Paccoin, why Mooncoin can not be like Paccoin?
from 1 sat to 100 sat more?
let's make Moon like PacCoin now this is the time 

I have decided to sel loff my mooncoins and move to better cryptos.  This "Dev" had plenty of time to burn the stolen coins and still wouldn't do it.  I believe he already dumped some of the other coins and is planning to dump more and I deem him unstrustworthy.

I have decided to sel loff my mooncoins and move to better cryptos.  This "Dev" had plenty of time to burn the stolen coins and still wouldn't do it.  I believe he already dumped some of the other coins and is planning to dump more and I deem him unstrustworthy.

Polar has obvious ly stated the reason why he decided to keep these information away from the community due to his personal reasons which I respect. But I still think in times like this, your interest alone shouldn't always count rather also think of others.

I have decided to sel loff my mooncoins and move to better cryptos.  This "Dev" had plenty of time to burn the stolen coins and still wouldn't do it.  I believe he already dumped some of the other coins and is planning to dump more and I deem him unstrustworthy.

Good morning ! Congratulation for your efforts ! Mooncoin must be one of the first 100 cryptos in coinmarketcap.
We can do it !

Why did you not shared this information with the community? It looks like you and agswinner know a lot but do not share.

I have seen your posts about your lawyer but I dit not know that Vasillis did not communicate with the community because of the behaviour of some people and on advice of his lawyer. I hope things wil be turn for the better in the future for Mooncoin!

I and Agswinner have talked about our lawyers' opinion. Also, I have said that Vassilis is waiting his lawyer's finally solution. But the basic issue now is the development.

They both posted thier discussion 2weeks back (or 2 months my memory sucks)
.    but they was also trounced upon.  

  

Why did you not shared this information with the community? It looks like you and agswinner know a lot but do not share.

Why did you not shared this information with the community? It looks like you and agswinner know a lot but do not share.

I have meet Vassilis before about 2 weeks. He said that was dissapointed with the behaviour of some people in community. So, he did not communicate for this reason. Also, his lawyer have gave the same advice. He said me that he is waiting his lawyer's finally solution too. But I and Agswinner have asked lawyers for the same issue. Their answer was the same: It's not a simmple issue. Vassilis' lawyer has the same opinion too. So, we know that these coins are safe now ! Vassilis will not use them for any reason ! And in my opinion, the most important things now is the support and development of Mooncoin. Let's do it !  

Was not right by saying 'not dangerous' in my previous post. The case is dangerous to a degree. It's not so dangerous as destroying of the project, but it is dangerous if Vassilis decides to scam and to dump coins. Vassilis doesn't post and doesn't answer PMs since Jan, 20 : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/vassilisdev-1403637 that's why people begin to doubt in him. Why doesn't he post?
Could the community ask polemarhos888 who lives in the same town with him to meet with Vassilis and to try to convince him to disclosure his plans?   

About Vassilis Kritharakis: ask an user polemarhos888 (George) who lives in the same town with him (Crete island, Greece). Only he (George) is able to communicate with Vassilis in real life. George invited Vassilis when Barrysty1e (James) from Australia, another Mooncoin dev, stopped communicating/fixing issues in 2017. Don't you remember? The community was mad that barry didn't make any progress since summer. When he finally delivered a wallet, unfortunately it was needed to fix many issues and to contact exchanges, pools, block explorers about the fork - they need updates from a dev, not from investors,
to change the fork block (initially on his own initiative barrysty1e had set a block 1,165,000, it was unreal to make a consensus to update all wallets before the block 1,165,000). Then possible issues with an exotic Balloon hash algo and low txs fees were disclosured.

People were looking for a new dev, no one from devs agreed, and George (polemarhos888) invited Mr. Adonis Valamontes (he didn't agree), then he invited Vassilis K.
George (polemarhos888) told he had been convincing Vassilis to join Mooncoin development during 1 month.
The community agreed and accepted Vassilis (including the Mooncoin dev barrysty1e)


to make progress. Had the community any other choice? Remember it could be a catastrophe with network.

Also Barry didn't implement SmartLikes (he was focused on other things and then stopped communicating). Vassilis agreed to implement this feature.
Suddenly the unbelievable situation with 62 B. I understand all doubts. I don't understand why Vassilis doesn't post. The community gave a lot of trust to Vassilis, he should respect that.
It's a crisis. The community has to find a way to overcome the situation.
The only person who has a control on these 62 B is Vassilis_Dev. You can make a research. He posted the address in his signature, and you can search his address in block explorers to see all transactions.

I personally don't read Discord. If you don't like Discord, just don't read it. It's simple. Anyway Discord, or not, we all are in the same boat. We all are the community. And even if someone leaves the community, it's his right. Don't offend people, whether they are from Discord or from Bitcointalk. We all are different. Mooncoin is an international decentralised project. A lot of misundersanding. A lot of mutual doubts. Fear, anger etc. Let's overcome the crisis step by step.

Now at least the network and the Mooncoin wallet work good and safe. The issue is about Vassilis and Cryptsy funds. The community has time to fix the issue. It's not the dangerous case with possible major issues with the wallet itself - they were successfully fixed by Vassilis in December with the help from experts (an user mebagger) and other community members. It's completely another problem. It's not a problem with the project itself. It's not a problem with the code. It's a problem with Vassilis and with: legal or not it is to burn coins and how to proceed with no possible claims in the future.
Mooncoin is a serious project. Decentralised or not, it's not a scam and people, involved with Mooncoin, always will ask what is legal and what is not. It's normal.