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Topic: Mooncoin taken over by the feds? (Read 15016 times)

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January 01, 2012, 10:04:58 PM
aye, good to recall the past lest we condemn ourselves to repeat our same mistakes.  It would be nice to see Mybitcoin brougt back up as well.

Hard to say if anyone botherd. My interest was purely to help people who would wish to take legal action determine who the moon person was. I'm not sure that any one lost any significant amounts to motivate them to take legal action.
Of course the other thing is, if one were to be tied up in some sort of civil matter they may not be able or desire to speak about it here.
Anyone who lost money here care to chime in?
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January 01, 2012, 09:52:43 PM
I think its kinda funny how abruptly the thread just ended.

Damn I wish this person would have gotten caught.

Did noone involve police or fbi?
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January 01, 2012, 07:42:11 PM
So is this over now? did anyone get any compensation? Did we find the guy?
legendary
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October 05, 2011, 02:25:01 AM
Seems like the Bitcoin mafia & mob don't want the other coins to succeed.

Why would you say that? You should give the thread a read before jumping to conclusions. Wink

This was a classic case of a scammer who stole Bitcoins (and Solidcoins, but that chain was shut down and yet to restart). Mr Moon tried to make it look like his site was hacked, but he fumbled that ruse quite badly. Now people are trying to determine his identity in order to recover damages.
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October 04, 2011, 10:59:21 AM
Seems like the Bitcoin mafia & mob don't want the other coins to succeed.
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October 03, 2011, 02:34:12 PM
Hey, somebody might even believe you one day... it worked for OJ.

Mr Moon will be in jail one day for beating up a person who was trying to sell his artwork but not this crime lol
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October 02, 2011, 10:33:38 PM

 Aye, the last one at least likely saves one the trouble of a vital stats search. Parents, Tina and Jesse Verdun. As pointed out a few pages back from CV's blog posting in 2003 about a car issue and asking his father to fix it. His parrents own Jesse's Radiator shop in Ventura. I do however find it odd that I don't recall reading much in CV's blog about an older brother. Though at that age ones mind tends to be more localy fixed. GF, Car, Evil parents trippin on ya. ;p


I am sure his brother has advised him not to communicate here further but he thinks he is smarter than every one else, so who knows.

Just come clean, Christian...
 
legendary
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October 02, 2011, 10:15:46 PM

Any proof that he's the same guy as the lawyer as CV's brother?



Someone more bored than I will need to check vital statistics to see if they are brothers. You have both of ther DoBs... But, I can atest to Andre Verdun the wrestler being Andre Verdun the San Diego attorney.

Andre Verdun (Youth Suicide) @ 16:40~
http://www.mtv.com/videos/wrestling-society-x-full-episode-ep-1/1554865/playlist.jhtml#series=2211&seriesId=21955&channelId=1

Andre Verdun (Youth Suicide) MySpace tagged photos making the easiest match.
http://www.myspace.com/youth_suicide/photos/7579918/tagged#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A7579918%7D

Andre Verdun; same facial features and balding pattern as the attorney..
http://www.myspace.com/youth_suicide/photos/27426619/tagged#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A27426619%7D


Andre Verdun (Youth Suicide)/ (San Diego Lawyer)
http://crowleylawgroup.com/AndreVerdun.html


Have to make up your own damn minds and/or do some more research from there.

One of CV's old merchant sites had an address that can be linked to Andre.
https://checkout.google.com/reviews/merchant/endUserReviews?sellerId=277296763527281
https://usidentify.com/christian-verdun
http://www.ci.santa-paula.ca.us/Minutes/2004/4cc11_08.pdf
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October 02, 2011, 09:19:23 PM

Any proof that he's the same guy as the lawyer as CV's brother?



Someone more bored than I will need to check vital statistics to see if they are brothers. You have both of ther DoBs... But, I can atest to Andre Verdun the wrestler being Andre Verdun the San Diego attorney.

Andre Verdun (Youth Suicide) @ 16:40~
http://www.mtv.com/videos/wrestling-society-x-full-episode-ep-1/1554865/playlist.jhtml#series=2211&seriesId=21955&channelId=1

Andre Verdun (Youth Suicide) MySpace tagged photos making the easiest match.
http://www.myspace.com/youth_suicide/photos/7579918/tagged#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A7579918%7D

Andre Verdun; same facial features and balding pattern as the attorney..
http://www.myspace.com/youth_suicide/photos/27426619/tagged#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A27426619%7D


Andre Verdun (Youth Suicide)/ (San Diego Lawyer)
http://crowleylawgroup.com/AndreVerdun.html


Have to make up your own damn minds and/or do some more research from there.
legendary
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October 02, 2011, 09:05:14 PM

Any proof that he's the same guy as the lawyer as CV's brother?



CV's mother's myspace page lists a YouthSuicide as one of her top friends.
CV also complained about his family being harassed after an email was sent to Andre.
You could wander through the #solidcoin IRC logs for Freenode.net and find a lot more stuff.
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October 02, 2011, 07:25:30 PM

Any proof that he's the same guy as the lawyer as CV's brother?

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legendary
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October 01, 2011, 07:28:42 PM
I'm wondering if CV's brother was a wrestler.

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October 01, 2011, 05:49:32 PM
  Ok, so why doesnt Big brother shut down websites he doesnt like in Iran, N Korea, etc?   What is the antidote or preventative measure to avoid the US gov. shutting down any btc accepting site?


All you need to do is register your domain offshore so ICE can't take it. No GoDaddy or other popular US domain registrars. Servers should also be far away from US MLAT treaty.. failing that any Euro country or host that respects privacy and resists simple takedown orders like prq.se

Liberty Reserve exchangers and other e-gold type IBCs that have been around for 20+yrs all know never to host anything financial related in the US unless you want everything eventually seized. Especially if you're promoting online gambling like mooncoin guy was doing.. recipe for disaster

Looks like this guy was scamming anyways and ICE wasn't remotely involved
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October 01, 2011, 04:27:37 PM
I would like to remind everyone of California Law

"California Penal Code Section 653m

Any further messages, emails, etc that are sent to me (or any family members, etc) about this will be forwarded directly to the police after I do a quick google/lexis nexus search and find out more about you. I will also contact your local police.

This is not a warning. In our country you cannot harass someone based on the assumption they did a crime - if you have evidence take it to the authorities.

Three things to think about here... first off, the citation that you make covers only those communications made for purposes of harassment. No judge in the world, not even California, will permit anybody to hide behind that from those who are pursuing a legitimate obligation to them by someone who has been identified as the person behind a fraud. Can't use legalese to shelter criminal activity. Sorry.

Secondly, it is interesting that you would state that you would do a "quick google/lexis nexus search and find out more about you." I assume you meant a LexisNexis search, the access to which is a very closely controlled system, and misuse of it for purposes other than the narrowly defined parameters established by law, most specifically the FFCRA would land you solidly into stalker land. And that, dear readers, will most certainly get the UC Davis police, your local police; and going across state lines, even the FBI involved. Interstate electronic stalking IS understood by every law enforcement official in the country, and they have established procedures to deal with it. You want to find yourself treated like the perps on To Catch a Predator, you just go right ahead and abuse LexisNexis to "find out more about people", or better yet, have your brother the lawyer do it. Can you say disbarment? Can you say sanctions? Can you say what a crappy Thanksgiving it will be at your house with the two of you under indictment for really stupid behavior?

And third, consider if you will those self same California Codes in respect to a citizen's right to protect themselves, their family and their property. Up to and including the right to reasonable forcible restraint of a suspect in a crime. Hell, the law specifically protects an intended victim when he takes action to prevent criminal action against himself, and requires law enforcement officers to assist in the apprehension and prosecution of the criminal thus apprehended.

Come clean, do your proper mea culpas and return the ill-gotten fruits of your theft to the rightful owners, or start helping find your real mr.moon. Hey, somebody might even believe you one day... it worked for OJ.
legendary
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October 01, 2011, 02:54:37 PM
I would like to remind everyone of California Law

"California Penal Code Section 653m

Any further messages, emails, etc that are sent to me (or any family members, etc) about this will be forwarded directly to the police after I do a quick google/lexis nexus search and find out more about you. I will also contact your local police.

This is not a warning. In our country you cannot harass someone based on the assumption they did a crime - if you have evidence take it to the authorities.

Anyone has the right to contact you to collect the debts that you owe to them. In fact, it is a prerequisite for lawsuits to first contact you for payment.
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October 01, 2011, 12:48:22 PM

Please set me straight with your comments.

Golly, I was noticed by a Genuine Hero Member!

Why pick this thread? No particular reason. I happened upon it looking for a support thread on an alternate currency, read it and felt inspired to remark.

Why the 23 day vacation (and don't I wish it had actually BEEN a vacation!)? As above, no particular reason, I was mostly on a laptop in the intervening time, and didn't have my login on it, and with real world business responsibilities, just didn't take the time. As to great content... well, just like my ex-wife, judgement is best reserved for the eyes of the beholder, I write, you decide. But like like any self-respecting knee-jerk reactionary out there I will rise to the rhetorical bait when offered the opportunity. Want to paint me with shades of mr.moon colors? I have to offer a cogent response. Perhaps even one that that will stand up to the scrutiny of the Gee Whiz Super Dooper Secret Investigator Club that is able to find all 11 posts by a given nick and leap to conclusions therefrom.

Did I miss a requirement in the newbie training that says we aren't supposed to have opinions about tacky behavior, like stealing and abusing trust? I was so busy picking up trash along the expressway for my Community Service time, I might have fallen asleep in the back of the lecture.

Special Bonus Hint: For all you forensic didactic diagnosticians out there, take careful note of my use of the word "expressway". Your Regional Colloquialisms Handbook will indicate that my reference to an inter-urban paved transport path as such, will give a clear indication as to my linguistic roots, and support that whole IP resolution thing. Had I been from California, I would have called it a "freeway". Wicked clever Machiavellian thought right there, for damn sure.
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October 01, 2011, 12:24:29 AM
Somebody help me with an issue I'm having!

I can't understand how somebody who wrote as their first post,...

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Well, since this is the place to post those abhorrent, "golly, I'm new and I have to post enough rubbish to actually be able to sit down with the big kids and talk for real" posts, here is my first. And like so many others utterly devoid of worthwhile content. Of course, in about 3.71 hours I will be full of great content, but until then, ticket punched, number one.

...posted 7 times in the newbie section (had to pen at least 4 or 5 posts, plus community service of 4-5 hours), once on Alternate Cryptocurrencies, and the last 4 posts on this thread.

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...I will be full of great content...

I read well written content, but the timing of joining this board and opting where to post after serving Newbie time--and a 23 day vacation--has me puzzled.

Please set me straight with your comments.
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September 30, 2011, 11:42:17 PM
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I'll save everyone the eyeball bandwidth repeating those sections here in toto, but whoever did this is looking at multiple felony counts, and at least $250,000 in fines per count. And every criminal diversion above $250 is a felony count for the fine. Hmm, $20,000 divided into $250 counts equals 80 felony counts, which at a cool quarter mil a pop will have you clipping coupons in the Grey Bar Hotel at San Quentin for probably the rest of your adult lifetime.

How often people even charged much less found guilty of every instance of the offence they've committed in these cases and how often is the maximum possible penalty applied against every instance, though?

I once copied a VCR tape and gave it to a friend for his friends to view. Luckily I wasn't caught like SO MANY OTHERS who are probable still sitting in prison. Tomorrow, I'm going to press my luck and copy a song off the internet and play it in my truck with the windows open.

BRB!

I'm back. The lights went out so I took a $1.00 bill out of my wallet and lit with a match to use as a light to see where I have going. It worked so well, I did it again.

I also once put a quarter on the rail tracks to have a train flatten it.

I'm such a rebel!

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September 30, 2011, 09:52:49 PM
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I'll save everyone the eyeball bandwidth repeating those sections here in toto, but whoever did this is looking at multiple felony counts, and at least $250,000 in fines per count. And every criminal diversion above $250 is a felony count for the fine. Hmm, $20,000 divided into $250 counts equals 80 felony counts, which at a cool quarter mil a pop will have you clipping coupons in the Grey Bar Hotel at San Quentin for probably the rest of your adult lifetime.

How often people even charged much less found guilty of every instance of the offence they've committed in these cases and how often is the maximum possible penalty applied against every instance, though?
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