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sr. member
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March 12, 2016, 07:21:23 PM
#31
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"Other payment options" such as?

Western Union, Money Gram, prepaid debit cards and I am quite sure that there are a few other options too where you can get the money without leaving any personal details behind.

WU/MG/most PPCC all require ID. But let's forget about hypotheticals, give me some examples of ransomware which offers multiple payment options.

Like "In December 2013 ZDNet traced four bitcoin addresses posted by users who had been infected by CryptoLocker, in an attempt to gauge the operators' takings. The four addresses showed movement of 41,928 BTC between 15 October and 18 December, about US$27 million at that time" -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptoLocker#Money_paid
Only not that, b/c that's BTC only Sad

Some one I know downloaded music and his PC got locked due to a virus. He had to pay €200 and they offered the payment options I listed in order to get his PC unlocked again.

Right. And someone I know got mauled by a unicorn due to a virus.
Citations or pics. Or it didn't happen.
legendary
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March 12, 2016, 07:07:33 PM
#30
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"Other payment options" such as?

Western Union, Money Gram, prepaid debit cards and I am quite sure that there are a few other options too where you can get the money without leaving any personal details behind.

WU/MG/most PPCC all require ID. But let's forget about hypotheticals, give me some examples of ransomware which offers multiple payment options.

Like "In December 2013 ZDNet traced four bitcoin addresses posted by users who had been infected by CryptoLocker, in an attempt to gauge the operators' takings. The four addresses showed movement of 41,928 BTC between 15 October and 18 December, about US$27 million at that time" -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptoLocker#Money_paid
Only not that, b/c that's BTC only Sad

Some one I know downloaded music and his PC got locked due to a virus. He had to pay €200 and they offered the payment options I listed in order to get his PC unlocked again.
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March 12, 2016, 06:48:44 PM
#29
It's very easy to DDOS a certain site and tell them to pay a certain amount of BTC to stop it. In many cases you will get paid as the people that are getting attacked want it to stop directly. It's a shame, but it happens. It's not only Bitcoin. The people behind these DDOS quite often also offer the victim several payment options. But as always Bitcoin is receiving all the blame.

It seems like any entity vulnerable to DDOS should take measures to protect from attack, or hire a service to protect them.

Or, since these are Swiss financial institutions we're talking about, they might just call their puppets, the gubermint (who, in turn, will sic jackbooted thugs upon our Bitcoin).

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March 12, 2016, 05:56:43 PM
#28
It's very easy to DDOS a certain site and tell them to pay a certain amount of BTC to stop it. In many cases you will get paid as the people that are getting attacked want it to stop directly. It's a shame, but it happens. It's not only Bitcoin. The people behind these DDOS quite often also offer the victim several payment options. But as always Bitcoin is receiving all the blame.

It seems like any entity vulnerable to DDOS should take measures to protect from attack, or hire a service to protect them.
hero member
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March 12, 2016, 05:49:14 PM
#27
Offcourse this is bad, criminals thing bitcoin is here to provide them a safe have for their illegal conducts.
In fact i hope it gives the police some extra control to punish them. it's really stupid and it's giving our beloved bitcoin a bad name..
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March 12, 2016, 05:32:11 PM
#26
I reckon it is a tooth less threat hoping that payment will be made.  If they had the ability to do it they would have and then asked for payment....... Grin
legendary
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March 12, 2016, 04:42:30 PM
#25
What a way of extortion...
This, however, had already been expected by many before, as and when Bitcoin came into existence, that due to its anonymity and decentralization, it cannot be traced...
This is the easiest way for any criminal to give their activities the outcome these bloody crime forces need to...
sr. member
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March 12, 2016, 04:07:32 PM
#24
This trend is very alerting. Not only online but also offline scammers/hackers/criminals extort companies.
Even a hospital in the US. I do hope the law enforcement will act harder and very aggressively towards this demands.
sr. member
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March 12, 2016, 02:11:27 PM
#23
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"Other payment options" such as?

Western Union, Money Gram, prepaid debit cards and I am quite sure that there are a few other options too where you can get the money without leaving any personal details behind.

WU/MG/most PPCC all require ID. But let's forget about hypotheticals, give me some examples of ransomware which offers multiple payment options.

Like "In December 2013 ZDNet traced four bitcoin addresses posted by users who had been infected by CryptoLocker, in an attempt to gauge the operators' takings. The four addresses showed movement of 41,928 BTC between 15 October and 18 December, about US$27 million at that time" -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptoLocker#Money_paid
Only not that, b/c that's BTC only Sad
sr. member
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March 12, 2016, 02:01:51 PM
#22
This was surely just a duplicate of the earlier attempt or rather something similar that has no validation at all. It seems that most just jump in with a hope of getting easy money through this way (in this case BTCitcoin). Unfortunately most don't spend much to strengthen their security and as result some might still choose a safe way (not risking their website getting dos, if ever) and as result, pay these criminals what they want and that's makes this process to actually never end.
You mean, thousands of institutions should spend billions to harden their websites, just so that you can use BTC?
Might they not think outside the box & ask their jackbooted friends to ban Bitcoin instead? Kill it before it lays eggs, so to say?
legendary
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March 12, 2016, 02:01:17 PM
#21
... The people behind these DDOS quite often also offer the victim several payment options. But as always Bitcoin is receiving all the blame.
"Other payment options" such as?

Western Union, Money Gram, prepaid debit cards and I am quite sure that there are a few other options too where you can get the money without leaving any personal details behind.
legendary
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March 12, 2016, 01:46:34 PM
#20
This was surely just a duplicate of the earlier attempt or rather something similar that has no validation at all. It seems that most just jump in with a hope of getting easy money through this way (in this case BTCitcoin). Unfortunately most don't spend much to strengthen their security and as result some might still choose a safe way (not risking their website getting dos, if ever) and as result, pay these criminals what they want and that's makes this process to actually never end.
sr. member
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March 12, 2016, 01:44:56 PM
#19
... The people behind these DDOS quite often also offer the victim several payment options. But as always Bitcoin is receiving all the blame.
"Other payment options" such as?
legendary
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March 12, 2016, 01:40:52 PM
#18
It's very easy to DDOS a certain site and tell them to pay a certain amount of BTC to stop it. In many cases you will get paid as the people that are getting attacked want it to stop directly. It's a shame, but it happens. It's not only Bitcoin. The people behind these DDOS quite often also offer the victim several payment options. But as always Bitcoin is receiving all the blame.
legendary
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March 12, 2016, 01:13:17 PM
#17
If they own botnets then it probably won't be that easy to stop them .
Speaking about what he said : "Bitcoin is anonymous, nobody will ever know you cooperated." , his address is known  , if it receives something we will know they cooperated  Roll Eyes

uh and how do you know who he is? you can not, that is the anonymous part of bitcoin, not the address itself

now to remove the coin from that dfirty address, that is another story
sr. member
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March 12, 2016, 12:55:41 PM
#16
Lauda: It's not about what actually works.

Assume you're a script kiddie or just a random jerk. You have just enough wits to know telling your victims to pay you via PayPal is a bad idea, but are too lazy, dumb and unconnected to what.other options are available. Until, presto, Bitcoin! You hear it's anonymous and exactly what you need, so you're in business now!

Sure, it's not actually anonymous, but you and people like you won't figure that out until enough of you inevitably get busted.

That's why cryptolocker is such a failure, script kiddies only managed to get US$27 million before not getting busted.
Of course, the script kiddies that h4xx0rd Hollywood hospital only got $17,000 in bitcoin before getting not busted, but that's a different story...
legendary
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March 12, 2016, 12:39:48 PM
#15
Lauda: It's not about what actually works.

Assume you're a script kiddie or just a random jerk. You have just enough wits to know telling your victims to pay you via PayPal is a bad idea, but are too lazy, dumb and unconnected to what.other options are available. Until, presto, Bitcoin! You hear it's anonymous and exactly what you need, so you're in business now!

Sure, it's not actually anonymous, but you and people like you won't figure that out until enough of you inevitably get busted.
sr. member
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March 12, 2016, 11:46:20 AM
#14
Sure. The difference being you gotta reveal identity/leave Mom's basement to extort fiat. Bitcoin? Not so much.
Not really if you execute it in a better way (however, let's not discuss this). Getting rid of dirty Bitcoin without almost a trace isn't as simple as you think.

Lol no, it's *exactly* as simple as I think.
legendary
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March 12, 2016, 11:34:19 AM
#13
Sure. The difference being you gotta reveal identity/leave Mom's basement to extort fiat. Bitcoin? Not so much.
Not really if you execute it in a better way (however, let's not discuss this). Getting rid of dirty Bitcoin without almost a trace isn't as simple as you think.

normally ignorant people and no open to innovation
People are very ignorant in regards to a lot of things. This is why Bitcoin's adoption is slower.

Anyway my local mall also being extort by noob terrorist recently that will blow up it's toilet. He asked for 10 BTC ransom.
But at the end , he being captured by police on his place. When police asked why he did that , he answered that he want to make some money.
What a shame that person was a IT officer !
That was badly executed. It seems that a lot of people think that Bitcoin is completely anonymous. This is obviously wrong and we need to work on spreading the message. We should see a decline in such incidents afterwards.
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March 12, 2016, 11:09:02 AM
#12
in the same time mean that btc is more adopted Smiley also for the criminals (normally ignorant people and no open to innovation)
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