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Quote from: CaVO32 on March 04, 2022, 06:49:03 PM

Zelensky and his people are just fighting for their own freedom, so I can understand that even if they are in the losing end, they will fight up until they die. They want to defend their country and no one is significantly helping them on this war. It is like a solo-man battle over a giant. We don't know what is going to happen to Ukraine if this continues, but definitely, the destruction will always be part of the aftermath. Can they gain freedom after this? If nothing else, the respect among Ukranians will be there as they defend their country from their invader up to the last drop of their blood.

They're not just fighting, they're on the suicide path, not just their lives but the significant infrastructures on the country, its economy and everything will start at zero after war if it last longer.

Quote from: teosanru on March 05, 2022, 12:32:31 PM

Surrender is not an option at all, [...] Talking about destruction, war is all about destruction,

You should stop playing games, war is not a game where you just play to fight and to die, respawn then repeat. And don't just talk about destruction is just normal and easy just because its war when there are lots of ways to prevent it to happen.

Quote from: teosanru on March 05, 2022, 12:32:31 PM

even if Ukraine surrenders today there will be some other neighbouring country of Russia under attack you cannot just expect Russia to be silent after this.

When you become a fortune teller? If the war stops in ukraine, escalating war in neighboring country can be avoided. Also don't assume just because it's "Russia" or "China" where the "West" is "Good" and it's enemy is the "Bad".

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Quote from: PX-Z on March 04, 2022, 04:58:11 PM

Quote from: teosanru on March 04, 2022, 03:14:29 PM

In diplomacy, they want to look like the victims here who are just defending their territory so that if the battle escalates somehow they have favoritism on the international stage

Still caring on how others opinion/look into them at such time? That's nonsense, as the state leader he should think how his government can stop the war, to avoid more damage, and losing its people.
He should know when to stop and surrender if you can't win a war. If this war lasts longer, imagine how ukraine will become. It takes lots of years to recover from a war, building its infras, gaining growth to its economy where all business stopped, destroyed, lack of supplies etc.

Surrender is not an option at all, at this point in global diplomacy the west is pumping up Ukraine with a hell lot of funds and ammunition just to ensure that Ukraine doesn't surrender so Ukraine won't surrender anytime soon. Talking about destruction, war is all about destruction, even if Ukraine surrenders today there will be some other neighbouring country of Russia under attack you cannot just expect Russia to be silent after this.

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We don't know how strong the Ukrainian troops are and how much stock they have against the Russian army. What is clear, their leader must already have a strategy to deal with the opponent and of course, they can continue to defend with all their might. But thankfully, now the ceasefire has started and hopefully, all will end well, even though Ukraine suffered a lot in this war.

Quote from: romero121 on March 05, 2022, 03:46:06 AM

Russia have announced the temporary pausing of war.

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The ministry confirmed its units have stopped firing and opened humanitarian corridors near the cities of Volnovakha and Mariupol which were encircled by Russian troops.
Moscow Declares Partial Ceasefire

This isn't confirmed by the Ukranian forces and there is no clear information how long will the borders opened for the excavation. PayPal have stopped the services in Russia. Now the media and the journalists are eyed and a warning has been issued. Anything reported fake could lead to imprisonment.

At least that can be good news for everyone, especially people in Ukraine. They could breathe a sigh of relief even though they didn't know if the war would start again or would it stop. They really hope the war can stop to live a normal life again.

This ceasefire should be put to good use by both parties to negotiate and discuss the core issues of the war and until it happens again.

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Russia have announced the temporary pausing of war.

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The ministry confirmed its units have stopped firing and opened humanitarian corridors near the cities of Volnovakha and Mariupol which were encircled by Russian troops.

Moscow Declares Partial Ceasefire

This isn't confirmed by the Ukranian forces and there is no clear information how long will the borders opened for the excavation. PayPal have stopped the services in Russia. Now the media and the journalists are eyed and a warning has been issued. Anything reported fake could lead to imprisonment.

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If NATO's sovereignty in Ukraine is trampled recklessly by Russia, it will have no value in existence. What NATO does is to defend the values of democracy and freedom without hesitation, and must resolutely fight back against the robbers who savagely devour civilization and stop the destruction at any cost. Civilized behavior demonstrates justice, maintains international order, and guarantees everyone's normal and free life

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Ukraine's nuclear power plant is the largest in Europe, and the dangers are well known, just like the nuclear power leak caused by the earthquake in Japan caused harm to people, and the damage caused by Russia to Ukraine caused huge losses to Ukraine, but Russia The economy is also being sanctioned.

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Yes it’s pretty bad especially when you look at all those residential building which have gotten a missle thrown at it. Those apartment buildings were peoples homes and now they got nothing.

Looking outside you see burnt cars, tanks, smashed windows, etc. basically looks like you are watching a war movie however it’s real life. There are reports of air horns sounding which means you need to leave and seek shelter. Never would of thought this would happen.

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Quote from: gantez on March 04, 2022, 06:25:31 PM

Quote from: PX-Z on March 04, 2022, 04:58:11 PM

Quote from: teosanru on March 04, 2022, 03:14:29 PM

In diplomacy, they want to look like the victims here who are just defending their territory so that if the battle escalates somehow they have favoritism on the international stage

Still caring on how others opinion/look into them at such time? That's nonsense, as the state leader he should think how his government can stop the war, to avoid more damage, and losing its people.
He should know when to stop and surrender if you can't win a war. If this war lasts longer, imagine how ukraine will become. It takes lots of years to recover from a war, building its infras, gaining growth to its economy where all business stopped, destroyed, lack of supplies etc.

This war is looking like it is a tough one really and Ukraine is at the losing end that because the battle is fought in the soil of Ukraine. That gives easy access to Russia for easy destruction. Actually playing of diplomacy is good but more Ukrainians are dying daily and the economy is being shut down when businesses are being locked up.

Zelensky and his people are just fighting for their own freedom, so I can understand that even if they are in the losing end, they will fight up until they die. They want to defend their country and no one is significantly helping them on this war. It is like a solo-man battle over a giant. We don't know what is going to happen to Ukraine if this continues, but definitely, the destruction will always be part of the aftermath. Can they gain freedom after this? If nothing else, the respect among Ukranians will be there as they defend their country from their invader up to the last drop of their blood.

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Quote from: PX-Z on March 04, 2022, 04:58:11 PM

Quote from: teosanru on March 04, 2022, 03:14:29 PM

In diplomacy, they want to look like the victims here who are just defending their territory so that if the battle escalates somehow they have favoritism on the international stage

Still caring on how others opinion/look into them at such time? That's nonsense, as the state leader he should think how his government can stop the war, to avoid more damage, and losing its people.
He should know when to stop and surrender if you can't win a war. If this war lasts longer, imagine how ukraine will become. It takes lots of years to recover from a war, building its infras, gaining growth to its economy where all business stopped, destroyed, lack of supplies etc.

This war is looking like it is a tough one really and Ukraine is at the losing end that because the battle is fought in the soil of Ukraine. That gives easy access to Russia for easy destruction. Actually playing of diplomacy is good but more Ukrainians are dying daily and the economy is being shut down when businesses are being locked up.

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Quote from: teosanru on March 04, 2022, 03:14:29 PM

In diplomacy, they want to look like the victims here who are just defending their territory so that if the battle escalates somehow they have favoritism on the international stage

Still caring on how others opinion/look into them at such time? That's nonsense, as the state leader he should think how his government can stop the war, to avoid more damage, and losing its people.
He should know when to stop and surrender if you can't win a war. If this war lasts longer, imagine how ukraine will become. It takes lots of years to recover from a war, building its infras, gaining growth to its economy where all business stopped, destroyed, lack of supplies etc.

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Quote from: gantez on March 04, 2022, 12:56:58 PM

My question is when these satellite images where shown and again they got some delay while coming to Ukraine, then why can't the Ukraine stop them by throwing missiles on them or Ukraine don't have such rocket missiles that can set the tanks ablaze.
Or Russia got everywhere covered by closing up the space that they can be attacked on air ?

If you follow the news back to back concerning the ongoing war, you will discover that its not only Russia that is striking Ukraine but rather vise versa, Ukraine too are giving it hot on Russia, in fact Russia never expected such moves from Ukraine but nevertheless Ukraine still suffer more casualties, as at today it was recorded that Russia lost 3 of its commanders amidst the struggle as they try to ignite one of the EU nuclear power plant which could cause a great havoc on humanitarian life and well-being as the Russian citizens also cry out lamenting on such step is inhuman and a genocide which could affect the entire world and not only Ukraine if allowed.

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Quote from: gantez on March 04, 2022, 12:56:58 PM

Lately the Ukraine territory have been seriously destroyed, some cities captured by Russian troops making the Ukrainian economy gradually going into the hand of Russia and the power plant that was blown up is one of the economic resources for Ukraine.

Few days back, US reviewed a satellite image of Russian military approaching Ukraine with all the warfare like the armory being taken to Russia and later , same US updated through the satellite image that the movement seem to be slowed down for whatever reason including disagreement, shortage of gas for those vehicles etc. Now I think they finally got inside of Ukraine and the reason for Ukraine economic buildings badly hit and the battle much intensity. Is a pity that they entered Ukraine and causing more destruction.

This is the picture below

My question is when these satellite images where shown and again they got some delay while coming to Ukraine, then why can't the Ukraine stop them by throwing missiles on them or Ukraine don't have such rocket missiles that can set the tanks ablaze.
Or Russia got everywhere covered by closing up the space that they can be attacked on air ?

Ukraine can do a lot of things. Things that might not help them win the war but can definitely make the war last many years. The only problem is the approach of Ukraine. Even though I have liked the leadership of the Ukrainian President, only problem is that he doesn't want to attack Russia, I think his approach is that if it Attacks Russia then it will not look as if they are the peace followers and might even lose the precious support from the west. In diplomacy, they want to look like the victims here who are just defending their territory so that if the battle escalates somehow they have favoritism on the international stage, but I don't know for how long they will keep on doing this because eventually if the capital is beseiged by the Russians there is no point of diplomacy anyway.

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I'm following the war very closely, op, and I can tell you why: Ukraine is lacking strong aircraft right now. We have some stuff, of course, and sometimes we do destroy the enemy from the sky with, for example, Bayraktars. But Ukraine needs more of it. Another reason is strategic: if there's a significant distance between military vehicles, it's very inefficient to fire on it. It's better to wait for them to be very close to one another, so that one hit can affect many vehicles and tanks at once.
As for Ukrainian economy, I hope it'll remain more or less afloat thanks to the Western support, but of course the hit of the war on economy is very high when so many people and businesses cannot operate.

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From the history it is well known, if you going on a war then you destroy enemies economic sources, cut off the power houses and food, water etc. That's what happening here. The movement of Russian troops is slower because Ukraine is also fighting back at an alarming rate. However with the economic outburst Ukraine is way behind.

But who knows the dices can turn to six for Ukraine soon. Considering the fact that NATO is funding Ukraine with billions of dollars and also world has cut off Russia from SWIFT. So anything can go south in Economic situation.

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Lately the Ukraine territory have been seriously destroyed, some cities captured by Russian troops making the Ukrainian economy gradually going into the hand of Russia and the power plant that was blown up is one of the economic resources for Ukraine.

Few days back, US reviewed a satellite image of Russian military approaching Ukraine with all the warfare like the armory being taken to Russia and later , same US updated through the satellite image that the movement seem to be slowed down for whatever reason including disagreement, shortage of gas for those vehicles etc. Now I think they finally got inside of Ukraine and the reason for Ukraine economic buildings badly hit and the battle much intensity. Is a pity that they entered Ukraine and causing more destruction.

This is the picture below

My question is when these satellite images where shown and again they got some delay while coming to Ukraine, then why can't the Ukraine stop them by throwing missiles on them or Ukraine don't have such rocket missiles that can set the tanks ablaze.
Or Russia got everywhere covered by closing up the space that they can be attacked on air ?

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