Topic: More people now work in clean energy than in fossil fuels (Read 167 times)

I think that directing individuals to clean energies will not be enough to meet all their needs. What is required is that the state's policies tend to abandon the old sources of energy and direct its policies towards clean sources.
It must also be taken into account that working on alternative energies also has a cost, which may in many cases exceed the traditional methods. Until today, no society, regardless of its size, has reached complete dependence on clean energy alone.

The tendency of green renewable energy is towards greater efficiency where as oil, coal and other similar burning energy is a fixed process and fixed yield its harder to improve old technology.     The argument in favor of green energy is increasing but it will still be decades before its perfected.  Most obvious case for this would be solar panels which I think are now more then 70x cheaper per watt of energy produced (then 1970's), its been a great journey but they have to still continue to improve in great leaps.  
  One day all windows in new buildings will have a dual purpose of producing energy for that building, especially in places like Greece with a great amount of sunlight and natural advantage in placement to the seasons.  Some parts of the world have poor access to the sun so other types of green energy will develop, I believe even outside of solar we see great advance and efficiency.  In the end no special argument will be required, it will have become obvious but before then we do need people to recognize the silent cost to polluting 'old' energy types.
    For employment of people, its probably not a small amount to include R&D for new developments and integration into society.   IMO hydro is the most neglected and obvious large energy type.  When people wake and realize we throw away so much 'free' energy it will pivot the world in a better direction, I think all societies become richer at this time.

We also had to revert back to coal in Greece. Due to the energy crisis, coal factories that had closed down have now reopened. I'm all for renewable energy sources and green energy. However, I've found it pretty common (at least here) that green energy is disrupting the environment and we must find a way to overcome it. In particular, Greece is known for installing wind turbines in forests that were previously burned in wildfires (I hate to act like a conspiracy theorist, but in some cases, it has been proven that such plants were planned before wildfires occurred). On top of that, their installation requires heavy equipment and the creation of larger roads for transportation, while it's also claimed that it disrupts fauna and flora wild life.

We live in the innovation world, we need to find a way to overcome such challenges, because green energy is the future, we can't rely on fossil fuels forever. We can't have green energy hurting the environment in the process, it's hypocritical.

Too bad, some of the countries are reverting back to coal power, if I remember correctly there's a news about Germany slowly dismantling their nuclear powerplants and they are continuing their reliance on fossil fuels for electricity. Hopefully it's not a big impact but we know that some countries will likely follow them.

I am in agreement with this one, clear and shear truth on spot on that
one. It’s just gonna get hotter and hotter every year now, climate
change is realistically and ineluctably here to stay for good. We are
just too late and too damn slow on doing anything about it for the past
10 to 20 years. The pandemic however during the span of Covid-19’s
peak and global incursion did lower gas emissions and somehow
benefited the planet with all the travel restrictions and quarantine
protocols. Now everything is up and running again everywhere,
emission’s gonna pick up the pace even speed it up by a few degrees
annually. All kinds and forms of clean and renewable energy are really
good. It’s just hard to fully put it out there for everyone since setting
it up is costly to lot of people. No matter how many people work on it,
it is still behind and things are getting a bit warmer everywhere on
the planet.

It's wonderful news that more people are already in the clean energy because it can be good for argumentative purposes of moving further away from fossil fuels. But are there largely new people who are getting these jobs or is it that people who worked in fossil fuels are getting a chance to re-educate and switch to clean energy jobs? After all, it's very important to support those who worked in industries that are now going away, right? That would also help responding to concerns that many are losing jobs because of mines and other things closing down.

Do you all roll your eyes when you see yet another set of lies about Bitcoin?


So do I!  I also roll my eyes when I see yet another set of lies about global warming rolling by.  


You People should know by now that the media lies to generate FuD about BTC and Anything At All in order to have a business model to make money.  

You've DYOR on BTC.   for the love of Gawd.   DYOR on the BS of global warming.  

"Clean energy" isn't that clean and one-for-all solution to reduce fossil fuel if you know how tricky to make it work with the national power grid. For example, Solar energy only provides power on a sunny day and even its power load isn't fixed, very varies. Carry a risk of spiking your power grid hence you have to spend a lot of money on power stations and electric lines aka putting a burden on the grid.

Wind energy main concern is its wind blade waste which cannot be recycled. Mean you can only bury it under some landfill aka waste of land resource. Talking about land, both Solar energy and Wind energy require a lot of space for their solar panel and wind turbine to work. Basically, the trade-off for renewable energy isn't that great to push for a massive switch from fossil fuel source energy.

What is the primary greenhouse gas?  Both in volume and heat retention?  If for a second you thought is was what the media tells you it is?  Well you would be wrong.   CO2 isn't primary.   Its not even secondary or third.  iIs 4th on the list and in rather tiny amounts.


Knowing how much the media FuDs up Bitcoin.  Why are you assuming that the various other stories about whatever disaster they are predicting are even close to reality?


Oh, and the correct answer to the primary greenhouse gas is....    H2O in gaseous format    Yes.   Water Vapor.   By volume its 85% on average of the total greenhouse gas.  CO2 is in the parts per million.  Something like 5 ORDERS of magnitude less.  so small that it it only constitutes 400 parts per MILLION. 

It gets better. Of that 400 parts per million   maybe 15% of it is human caused.    Do you realize that Ants alone out mass all of humanity and produce more co2? just by breathing?  Just ants

While it may be quite late to begin, climate change today can be pretty obvious, almost all of us feeling it. This is one of the strategies to limit climate change rapidly, so it will have to go on, I believe it won't stop.
Many countries have realized this, even in the poor countryside where I live, in my hometown, the government has begun to erect towering wind power poles, well-off households started buying their own solar energy instead of using electricity from the government. People have begun to pay attention to the issue of climate change as well as the use of green energy.

Definitely we are on the verge of loosing fossils now and there won’t be much to dig out from earth. We have already digging enough to loose earths valuable resources in the process and increasing the atmospheric pollution too. Today you open up any news channel you see land slides, burning forests, heavy rain, rainfall that’s lasting longer than usual and what not!

This is why it’s time to switch to renewable energy sources and this could be happening in various regions thus getting more employment to that field. Already various nuclear plants been shut down so loosing employment to that field.

Moreover, electrics era is next Gen thing right now. Could be the reason for requiring electrical energy and thus increased focus towards renewable energy sources.

It's in part due to the government subsidies that are allowing renewables to dominate the job market, also ESG. Part of ESG are environmental concerns, so companies are going to be investing into environmental enterprises/initiatives in order to check the box, not because they believe it'll be profitable.

Fossil fuels still hold the vast majority of energy market share and will for the foreseeable future. I don't doubt that fossil fuels will phase out with renewables taking its place. It only seems premature to believe that it can happen within the next 20-30 years (some of the climate change alarmists think it can happen sooner, even).

The comparison is this, do you want a worse world and cheaper energy that is easier to get, or do you want a better world with a bit more expensive energy prices and more scientists working on making better? I would prefer a better world, and this Russia crisis showed the world that if the nations of the world do not go energy independent then we are going to end up with being depending on dictators.

So, the benefits of renewable energy is higher, maybe not so much great when you look at it today, but in 10 years it would be better for the consumer as well, you would be happier about it than old school sources, and you will have it cheaper by that time as well.

I never did come across this news back in 2019 and I probably have missed it or something. It's been 3 years since its genesis and having no updates at all is just devastating because there's no improvement or something. Maybe the research done there has not yet been born fruit but that is worth publishing and the risk that it has with the unknown is a factor

They are probably trying to save face or something, knowing that they are out there exposed or they have no publishable data or something like that.

Clean power is making big strides and moving fast as far as our energy source. It's pointless to think that clean energy will eventually replace fossil fuels completely, but that's not the case. In fact, humans and power plants both need a variety of energies to function properly. Fossil fuels have their place, but so does clean energy. I think the crypto community also recognizes the importance of clean energy, and those involved are also innovative in their efforts to bring it to market. We may not be able to travel back in time to prevent disaster, but we can work towards a better future for our children and grandchildren.

That's not sometimes weird to see this happening all over the world and especially in the developed countries where they care about the environment more than other countries, using clean energy was always a great goal for governments but as far as I know, this requires more complicated technologies and in the being it's more expensive and needs some more investing compared to fossil fuels. I think using clean energy will decrease the usage of fossil fuels over time, and we are happy to see mining bitcoin is also getting adopted for renewable and clean energies.

Because his project will surely died in the future since the price of the token always continue decrease [1] that's why there's no discussion about his project.

Nowadays almost every countries always discuss about green energy and CO2 emissions, if his project is successful I believe it should be place on the top 10, but the fact isn't. His project has no use cases, the news only contain about the token listed on several exchanges.

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[1] https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/efforce/

Whether actually true or not, I wonder if entry through top level position salaries for clean energy are on par, higher, or lower than the fossil fuel equivalents.  Have a sneaky suspicion that old money petro is paying more due to margins and subsidies.

off course because the demand of green energy is ramping up, and not just this. most of the country now have the initiative to zero carbon by mostly 2060

so it will pump it up and created new all time high in the process

It be a positive (job creation) or negative in terms of costs it could point to renewables having some downsides in their production requirements.  Oil can be tricky but in places like Saudi Arabia its apparently relatively easy from ground to sale barring the transport part I guess; renewables do I guess have greater point of presence in their favor .
   I think low cost no hassle nuclear is going to prove important in that it needs to succeed in order that oil and coal are once and for all put into the shadows as clearly less efficient.    There is the new idea of small scale nuclear with little operational oversight required comparatively where as nuclear power is traditionally feared for its worst outcomes from mismanagement and poor maintenance.   If we can make renewable hands off, with the least people required as possible it might be a point towards renewables.