Topic: More proof that savegox.com is a sham. - page 4. (Read 29705 times)

If the guy is NOT worthy to be involved in a potential GOX rehabilitation, then the Japanese court should be presented with that information or if the plan to save GOX is NOT legitimate and genuine, then the Japanese court should be presented with that, as well, in order that those matters can be taken into account.  To me, it seems that some plan to rehabilitate GOX, whether it involves Brock, or some other rehabilitation plan, would likely be much better for GOX account holders and bitcoin as a whole, rather than liquidation, yet certainly, I have NOT seen all of the evidence presented to the bankrupcy court.

Here is a clear and substantive outline:
yantis' (interesting and effective) re-post in this thread is (partly) a direct response to this list.


A thorough background check
I did some checking and there is little (if any) doubt that Brock Pierce:

1) Repeatedly starts (and helps to start) companies that lose many millions of investor funds.
2) Allegedly cheated a partner for a huge sum in a stock deal.
3a) Left the country when he knew some "wild parties" had gone way too far.
3b) Was sued for child rape by more than one (alleged) victim.

I think the above is reasonably accurate, the sources are (relatively) easy to find on google and in current threads here.

To be fair, in a recent video Brock Pierce seemed like a great spokesperson for Bitcoin.
If the world is ready to completely forgive "thieves and (alleged) pedos", then he's the perfect man to help lead BTC into the future.




I would add that the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" applies to court cases.
My interest in this story spiked when I read Brock left the country with his "sex crime" partners.
I viewed "fleeing" the country as a strong sign of guilt.
If that is wrong, then I am very sorry.

When there are so many character attacks, and a lack of a clear and substantive outline and/or argument, one surely must wonder whether there is any validity to the claims or if it is merely spreading FUD. 

Seems like the very articulate proponents of bitcoins are frequently being attacked based on allegations that may be stretches of the truth or expecting some kind of inferences to be made about facts that do NOT exist.

Phinnaeus Gage

Can we get a summary please of what exactly you are alleging. It's a lot to go through.

Thanks

I cut and pasted my response form the other Brock hate thread:

Truth from a long time friend, enemy, business partner & competitor:

Pretty amazing the amount of damage someone can do with some fake facebook accounts. I have to wonder what the agenda is here and if it has something to do with the Bitcoin Foundations elections...or worse someone trying to hurt Bitcoin as Brock is one of the most outspoken people in the Bitcoin space.

I clicked on Brock's timeline on his real facebook for the supposed above dates and he was in Los Angeles, California and not in Spain. Don't let someone troll you with fake facebook accounts.
Instead of reading all this made up crap and coming up with a bad opinion I suggest you reach out to him and talk to him yourself.

The true facts are pretty simple:
- Brock was associated with Rector when he was a teenager. I don't know any details. I personally think he was a victim. He has never mentioned it and I don't bring it up.
- Think about this one: Brock was my #1 competitor. If I could have used it against him I probably would have if there was something to use.
- Most everything is about money. People sue and make stuff up to try to get you to pay something. Sadly this is how it is.
- If you noticed on the lawsuit on his partners suing Brock for cheating his partners I took no part of because it was mostly lies.
- Brock makes more money for his investors that you know. He might fail in 3 out of 4 of his companies but that fourth one makes so much money for his investors which is why they keep investing in them.
- People get fired from businesses which why you only hear their side of the story and its always negative.
- I can also guarantee you without a doubt is Brock is a lover of women (so much that I fear that it keeps getting him into trouble).

From someone who knows all the facts. There is some agenda being played out here. What a better way to take one of Bitcoin's star advocates and link him to Paedophilia. This is FUD in the worst possible way.

As for Sunlot I suggest you guys read the FAQ before bashing it and make your own opinions and reach out to John if something isn't on there and get a real answer. Its your money after all.
http://www.savegox.com/?page_id=35

Heh,just let the law take it's course. There's no saying whether or not they found any of the "lost" coins,and who is supposed to be given priority even if some of the coins are found? Let the authorities deal with it,the ball's in their court now. No one knows if they'll even return the coins/money from liquidated coins to their owners. What's all this 3rd party initiative to deal with the case themselves?

That chart pretty much sums it up.

You're totally killing me Phinnaeus, hahahaha

The Wall Street Journal and the class action lawyers are aggressively supporting and positioning themselves behind Sunlot.
Who is representing the interests of people who do not want this plan?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/219613733/sunlot-holdings-proposed-rehabilitation-plan-ENGLISH#fullscreen


Jesus Fuckin' Christ! First, Jed McCaleb hands over Mt Gox to Mark Karpeles because of his skill sets, and now the hacked together team wants it handed over to them. I suggest letting this dude from Finland run it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p3c4viNMNk

FTFY!

Brock Pierce does well in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pBd-OD9Rns
He will make a great head thief* for the new Gox.

*Edit: That comment was based on Brock being sued by one or more former partners who claim to have been cheated.

I asked a Man of God for guidance regarding Brock Pierce buying MtGox and he said not to worry:

sorry for crossposting but here are more articles regarding Pierce's story:

a capture of the mentioned (http://boingboing.net/2007/11/15/goldfarming-empire-l.html) radar magazine article Nov 2007 covering the connection between Collins-Rector and Pierce's former company IGE:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080418073324/http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2007/11/den_chads_world_marc_collins_rector_1-print.php

two wired articles on Pierce's career as a whole, DEN case is only briefly touched, still an interesting read:
Part 1 "A Drive Through Laurel Canyon With Brock Pierce"
http://archive.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/16-12/ff_ige_pierce
Part 2 "The Decline and Fall of an Ultra Rich Online Gaming Empire"
http://archive.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/16-12/ff_ige?currentPage=all

Excellent plan! The promissory notes are already in production.