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Topic: More trust abuse by marlboroza - page 7. (Read 3589 times)

legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
January 31, 2020, 11:21:23 PM
#44
marlboroza   2019-12-31      troll

How much more clear does it need to be made that certain people are intent on using the trust system as a weapon to silence people who disagree with them?
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
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January 27, 2020, 05:02:42 PM
#43
This person is obviously crazy and should be tagged.

Tagging crazy people just makes them more crazy and even lends some legitimacy to their crazy "abuse" claims. Just let them be crazy.

Why would anyone interpret the behavior of yourself or marlboroza as mobbing or abusive?

Beats me.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
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January 27, 2020, 04:46:53 PM
#42
This person is obviously crazy and should be tagged.

Tagging crazy people just makes them more crazy and even lends some legitimacy to their crazy "abuse" claims. Just let them be crazy.

Why would anyone interpret the behavior of yourself or marlboroza as mobbing or abusive? It is not like these strings of accusations made by all the same people are a repeating pattern any time anyone questions any of your behavior... oh wait.


marlboroza   2020-01-27   Reference   Using trust and moderators to silence people.


Now I am using moderators, to silence people? They are just at my command now are they? It couldn't be that your posts were removed because they broke the rules now would it? Now I am using the trust system to silence people? What?
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
January 27, 2020, 12:00:30 PM
#41
This person is obviously crazy and should be tagged.

Tagging crazy people just makes them more crazy and even lends some legitimacy to their crazy "abuse" claims. Just let them be crazy.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
January 27, 2020, 11:55:38 AM
#40
Techshare is sounding more and more Like cryptocunter. Abuse abuse, teams etc etc
mobs... I guess, when reading tec's posts, users should go trough few links first. Lol, somehow I missed this part:

How much longer is everyone going to tolerate the use of the system designed to prevent fraud as a tool to silence criticism?
Complains about abuse, spreads false agenda across the boards, lies that someone has tried to silence him using trust and at the same time:

Uses moderator as a weapon to silence user because user said something TECSHARE didn't like
Dig dirt and use trust as a weapon because someone said something they didn't like

And at the same time:

Punishing people for their speech, no matter how abhorrent you find it, is ALWAYS the tool of totalitarians. I am a free speech absolutist.


I need to update my post with this info for reference purposes. This person is obviously crazy and should be tagged. I just don't see where I abused trust, but OK.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
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January 27, 2020, 10:40:17 AM
#39
*edit* - Have just realised you don't have the required ten users to qualify for DT1.
Marlboroza requested to be blacklisted from DT1.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1808
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January 26, 2020, 01:18:00 PM
#38
Techshare is sounding more and more Like cryptocunter. Abuse abuse, teams etc etc
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 2037
January 26, 2020, 12:30:03 PM
#37
I included TECSHARE for a moment to my trust list and got this as result:
~snip~
Fuck, I shouldn't have changed that feedback, you tricked me, I almost ended up negative and my reputation destroyed because of you troll.
There is no reason you should have included him to your trust list, because you don't trust his judgement. In that case also you would have only appeared negative to yourself, or seen your profile the same way anyone who have included TECHSHARE in their trust list. I'm sure you know this.

In general though if you were so inclined to include TECHSHARE hypothetically, you would then open a discussion with them about users on their trust list you disagree with. That's one of the base points of the new system to allow for discussion and resolutions. Then you decide if you want to keep them there or not.

Changing the feedback was the right thing to do, and this doesn't change that.
legendary
Activity: 3696
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January 26, 2020, 11:59:27 AM
#36
I included TECSHARE for a moment to my trust list and got this as result:
...
Fuck, I shouldn't have changed that feedback, you tricked me, I almost ended up negative and my reputation destroyed because of you troll.

According to this page you have 23 users on DT1 trust you and just five users on DT1 that distrust you.

Your total *should* be DT1 (18) - you'll have to ask LoyceV why there is a discrepancy.


*edit* - Have just realised you don't have the required ten users to qualify for DT1.



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Trust list for: marlboroza (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (1320 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-01-25_Sat_05.12h)
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marlboroza Trusts these users' judgement:
-

marlboroza Distrusts these users' judgement:
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(if you *do* add ten users, then I'll drop from DT1 (-12) to DT1 (-13)) - the choice is yours. Cause and effect.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
January 26, 2020, 11:44:38 AM
#35
As usual, you spout a bunch of shit that is barely decipherable as English

I posted several times that I will not dumb things down for idiots.  Get someone to help you.

Always an excuse for never explaining your behavior... Vod does what he wants, even when it endangers and harasses the community members, and no one ever holds him responsible.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
January 26, 2020, 05:32:57 AM
#34
As usual, you spout a bunch of shit that is barely decipherable as English

I posted several times that I will not dumb things down for idiots.  Get someone to help you.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
January 25, 2020, 08:45:03 PM
#33
Well just declare some one a "troll" and "dangerous" and you can do whatever you like then eh?

I included TECSHARE for a moment to my trust list and got this as result:



Seriously https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ban-evasion-by-ban-evader-please-permaban-case-5-5207811 ?



http://loyce.club/trust/2020-01-25_Sat_05.12h/982288.html

Really? I suppose you removed that account.

Fuck, I shouldn't have changed that feedback, you tricked me, I almost ended up negative and my reputation destroyed because of you troll.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
January 25, 2020, 08:10:39 PM
#32
You're still in the blame/misquoting phase I see.  :/   I won't push you to do anything that makes you call for an adult; all I ask is that you clean up your own shit before you complain about mine.  TTYL

Cool

As usual, you spout a bunch of shit that is barely decipherable as English, then run away when confronted and asked to provide any kind of logical retort.
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
January 25, 2020, 08:05:39 PM
#31
You're still in the blame/misquoting phase I see.  :/   I won't push you to do anything that makes you call for an adult; all I ask is that you clean up your own shit before you complain about mine.  TTYL

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
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January 25, 2020, 06:22:13 PM
#30
I would say an exclusion is more than enough based on how you perceive their judgement, but if you stick solely with Default trust then I can understand not deviating from that.
Nah, I don't do that exclusion/inclusion thingy.
That's what I believe would be best in this situation, as you clearly want to leave the feedback.
Actually, I should have done what TECSHARE suggested:
It's entirely legitimate to give someone a new positive rating just to negate a negative rating. (In this case you should explicitly respond to the negative rating you're negating.) It is not legitimate to keep deleting and reposting negative ratings to put the system back into "this guy just turned scammer!" mode. People who do that shouldn't be trusted.
Smiley
Great. Now if only Lauda and Vod would follow suit, that would be great. I am not holding my breath though.
It is not really great, I think your trolling is very dangerous. Over and out.

Well just declare some one a "troll" and "dangerous" and you can do whatever you like then eh?




Great. Now if only Lauda and Vod would follow suit, that would be great. I am not holding my breath though.

What would you like me to do Techy?  Change my feedback so it isn't based on what you think is just my opinion?

I'll remind you of your trust abuse against me - unless you can show medical evidence I am mentally ill, or produce evidence of my future plans, you are a hypocrite and can fuck off. 

Hold your breath.

 Cool

As usual, more insane jibbering that makes little to no sense from you. Your rating is "based on what you think is just my opinion" What the fuck does that even mean? As I have explained many times before, the rating I left for you was because of your doxing OG Nasty and your claimed reports to government agencies in retribution for his criticisms of you.

As Theymos said about your behavior:



"I was disgusted by the reckless and vicious doxing in this case, where:
 - The evidence was very thin.
 - Even if all of the allegations were true, it'd likely result only in civil penalties, not criminal.
 - The whole thing was motivated merely by past arguments. OgNasty never caused Vod to even lose anything, as far as I know. An utterly ridiculous & disproportionate escalation.
 - It's based on the premise that purely statutory crimes are directly unethical, which I don't agree with at all, though I'm willing to mostly look past this as subjective.

It's good that Vod came to his senses on this after the fact, though doing it at all certainly blemishes his reputation in my mind, and I added to my notes the fact that those users merited such a post. Meriting it is saying basically that we need more posts like this on the forum, and we do not need more posts like this on the forum.

Red-trusting Vod over this is an appropriate usage of red-trust, since his actions here are highly trust-relevant."



Your negative rating for me however:

Vod   2019-09-09   Reference   This profile has fundamentally abused the trust system, trading positive trust with as many others as possible to get on Default Trust. See reference and the BPIP DT Change Log for examples. Do not trust this profile's trust of others by adding ~TECSHARE to your personal trust list.

You and the usual retribution mob invented a bunch of unsubstantiated speculation and then claim it is abuse of the trust system, some how "justifying" your use of the trust system. Even if it was true, "abuse of the trust system" alone is not a valid reason for leaving a negative rating, this is what exclusions are for.

Clearly this is just retribution because I dared to tag you for your dangerous and insane behavior regarding OG Nasty, as you also tagged others who left you negative ratings for this behavior, and habitually leave frivolous and unsubstantiated retaliatory ratings. This is just the last act in your YEARS long pattern of abusive and stalking behavior against me documented here. In the past you were forced to remove your abusive and unsubstantiated ratings under threat of exclusion. This is just an extension of your past abuse of the trust system against me.

Would you like me to remove the reference to your obvious mental illness and repost the negative rating without it? Would that make the rating valid in your mind?
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
January 25, 2020, 04:44:26 PM
#29
Great. Now if only Lauda and Vod would follow suit, that would be great. I am not holding my breath though.

What would you like me to do Techy?  Change my feedback so it isn't based on what you think is just my opinion?

I'll remind you of your trust abuse against me - unless you can show medical evidence I am mentally ill, or produce evidence of my future plans, you are a hypocrite and can fuck off.  

Hold your breath.

 Cool
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
January 25, 2020, 04:27:44 PM
#28
I would say an exclusion is more than enough based on how you perceive their judgement, but if you stick solely with Default trust then I can understand not deviating from that.
Nah, I don't do that exclusion/inclusion thingy.
That's what I believe would be best in this situation, as you clearly want to leave the feedback.
Actually, I should have done what TECSHARE suggested:
It's entirely legitimate to give someone a new positive rating just to negate a negative rating. (In this case you should explicitly respond to the negative rating you're negating.) It is not legitimate to keep deleting and reposting negative ratings to put the system back into "this guy just turned scammer!" mode. People who do that shouldn't be trusted.
Smiley
Great. Now if only Lauda and Vod would follow suit, that would be great. I am not holding my breath though.
It is not really great, I think your trolling is very dangerous. Over and out.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
January 25, 2020, 01:27:02 PM
#27
Great. Now if only Lauda and Vod would follow suit, that would be great. I am not holding my breath though.
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 2037
January 25, 2020, 12:58:50 PM
#26
That is actually very good argument. Should I make that feedback neutral then?
~snip~
I have default trust settings since 2019.
That's what I believe would be best in this situation, as you clearly want to leave the feedback. I would say an exclusion is more than enough based on how you perceive their judgement, but if you stick solely with Default trust then I can understand not deviating from that.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
January 25, 2020, 12:54:54 PM
#25
You're off base here. Does what you are referencing show in any way that TECSHARE is likely to scam someone? No. If you insist on using the feedback system for this then at most a neutral tag should be applied. More to the point the post you use as a reference points to you not trusting their judgement, which comes down to excluding them from your trust list... which I will assume you have already done.
That is actually very good argument. Should I make that feedback neutral then?

which comes down to excluding them from your trust list... which I will assume you have already done.
I have default trust settings since 2019.

@TECSHARE I didn't repost anything, as you can see there is difference between old and new feedback.
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