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How does patience help you to win? If you sit there and spin a slot 1000 times on the same bet amount and hit 100 bonuses, that still doesn't make you a winner. What if all those bonus rounds paid $5 total? You spun 1000 $1 bets and won $500 in money from bonuses, you would still be down $500. I don't see how patience or never giving up on a slot makes you or will make you a winner. It's 100% luck.

Being persistent is not really my point when I describe the patience word here. It’s about playing low and be patient on it so that you can play without busting too early.

Slot games has high house edge which means your chance of being bust on few spins is too high if we will not factor in the luck and just pure stats. The main point is just bet in proportion to your bankroll and never overextend your bet size. Many player becomes impatient when it comes to betting low and do high bets to have quick high profit.

I suppose. If I have $500 to spin a slot with and I want to try to win something significant, I will bet $25 spins and try to get a massive bonus vs sitting there for hours hoping I hit a few bonuses and 1 pays. If I lose the $500 in either scenario, go home and call it a night. No sense in chasing the loss as it's just not your night.

I guess it all depends on your goal. Did you go to the casino with the goal to make money or hang out for awhile? If it's to make money I play like I said, if it's to hang out I play like scenario 2.

Now I understand your point and it’s valid. I’m posting this with a purpose in mind that I play to entertain myself since this always my goal aside from earning money that’s why I want to play it slow to savor the game properly.

It’s always ended to unsatisfactory result whenever I gamble and lose already with just few bets. Also I’m considering the rakeback and leveling my VIP level when wagering so I preferred the slow way to gain wager instead of big bets that result to massive win or lose which doesn’t generate wager.

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Quote from: Eternad on October 30, 2024, 06:46:56 PM

I come to this realization after noticing many use win high multiplier using low amount because they have more chance to spin compared to those betting in high bet amount since it quickly consumed their bankroll.

It's not really a bad strategy, sometimes I have done this as well.

Bankroll management is the combination of many things not just low risk bets, for example if you keep betting with the minimum odd possible multiplier doesn't guarantee you a win on every bet so if you bet 100 times, and assume you won 90 times but the loss of 10 bets won't be covered from the winnings of 90 bets that is why it is okay to mix up things as long as it's within your risk tolerance level.

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Quote from: Eternad on October 30, 2024, 06:46:56 PM

Aside from luck since it can’t be measure and categorized as skill, Patience is the most key factor in able to become successful in slot game. It can help you to minimize your loss and at the same time increase the chance to hit the jackpot since your bet size will be fix.

If you are patient, why looking for money while gambling. Patience will not let you look for money while gambling. You will just do it for fun and to earn just little amount of money so that if it is loss that happen to be the outcomes, the money lost will be small. If someone is patient but gamble, profit is not still guaranteed. Patience can minimize loss but loss is loss. Also patience can not help in hitting jackpot.

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Quote from: Eternad on October 30, 2024, 06:46:56 PM

Most of the losing slot players always use a high bet amount just to increase their potential profit while they didn’t consider their bankroll is not in proportion to their bet already.

I come to this realization after noticing many use win high multiplier using low amount because they have more chance to spin compared to those betting in high bet amount since it quickly consumed their bankroll.

This is actually a partial truth. If we have $100 with a smaller bet, we will have more spins, but that does not mean that we will hit anything...
With a $0.2 bet we will have 500 spins, it happened to me several times that even after 300 spins I did not get a bonus, some even over 500 spins. And if we catch the bonus round, it is not a guarantee that we will get a high multiplier... we can catch more bonuses, but if they all give a little or nothing, we will end up with a 0 balance in the end.

With $100 I would rather choose to play 100 $1 spins than 500 $0.2 spins... or I would go for a bonus buy, super spins are usually x500, so I would rather buy $100 super spin than $20 normal spin, if there is an option.

Basically, there is no "the most important skill" in slots, we just play and hope for some luck to find us. And sometimes that happens, sometimes not...

- You are right there, especially if the only bet to be made in slot games in any casino is the minimum bet amount of 0.2$. A lot of rollout will happen there in slot games.
For only 20$ at 0.2$, you can play casino gambling for a long time, actually, according to my experience.

So if you deposit $100 in the casino, the time you can play slot games in the casino will be longer for sure, and you will experience winning many times there; maybe you will get a jackpot prize there in the slot games or get lucky indeed.

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Patience for me is just a way to wait for my turn to win but still, I must control my funds so I don't use too much money to playing slot game. When play slot game, we really need to have luck because without luck, we will not win the game. But if you want to hit the jackpot, you really need to have big luck which is not related to patience.

Patience will help you to manage your time and not too rush in gambling. You will not break your limits as you know that will gives you more losses. You will not trying to use a high bet because that can makes you lose your money fast.

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Yes I agree that patience is an important and mandatory skill for a gambler, especially those involved in casino games, but of course I can't say that patience can guarantee success because this is something that is more about risk management to minimize the possibility of losing too much, but yes on the other hand I can also agree that patience can help you enough to win but it also depends on your luck.

Basically in any case patience is always an attitude that needs to be applied because it is useful to avoid you from various problems and regrets, but for the problem of results in random games it doesn't really matter even if you bet using a large amount, it doesn't mean it's impossible for you to win big but it must be remembered that it will happen only when luck comes, and that's why a gambler is always advised to bet with a small amount only.

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Quote from: PX-Z on October 30, 2024, 06:59:19 PM

Patience and more money lol. Because you can't move forward and win much larger if you have low range of money to spin more and more until you hit a jackpot. Although it's self-explanatory to have more money in gambling to get more win and probably losses as well.

Patience actually works more like a way to minimize your risk of losing everything in one round.. what I think about being patient, from my own experience is that sometimes you might use a bigger bet and end up being unlucky but when you place your bets on a low amount and be patient then you might be able to sum up to a reasonable amount later on... The fact is that luck is what really drive the slot in all those spins, you might be lucky and get a good amount of wins.. if you aren't you will end up losing no matter the hours of patience you have..

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Quote from: Eternad on October 30, 2024, 06:46:56 PM

I come to this realization after noticing many use win high multiplier using low amount because they have more chance to spin compared to those betting in high bet amount since it quickly consumed their bankroll.

Most important skills on slot is patience what a "patience is the key" I don't know I doesn't feels right in my opinion slot is just pure luck and maybe the factor is RTP and things like that patience and deposit more is not a choice.

Small bet and roll more is just same as you buy a bonus spin In my opinion and it can lead the same 50. chance of winning 50 chance of losing

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Quote from: Eternad on October 30, 2024, 06:46:56 PM

Most of the losing slot players always use a high bet amount just to increase their potential profit while they didn’t consider their bankroll is not in proportion to their bet already.

I come to this realization after noticing many use win high multiplier using low amount because they have more chance to spin compared to those betting in high bet amount since it quickly consumed their bankroll.

This is actually a partial truth. If we have $100 with a smaller bet, we will have more spins, but that does not mean that we will hit anything...
With a $0.2 bet we will have 500 spins, it happened to me several times that even after 300 spins I did not get a bonus, some even over 500 spins. And if we catch the bonus round, it is not a guarantee that we will get a high multiplier... we can catch more bonuses, but if they all give a little or nothing, we will end up with a 0 balance in the end.

With $100 I would rather choose to play 100 $1 spins than 500 $0.2 spins... or I would go for a bonus buy, super spins are usually x500, so I would rather buy $100 super spin than $20 normal spin, if there is an option.

Basically, there is no "the most important skill" in slots, we just play and hope for some luck to find us. And sometimes that happens, sometimes not...

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Patience and hard work are the keys to success.

How can patience work in betting? I know betting always depends on luck. Hitting more doesn't mean you're going to get anything. I think unlimited patience in betting will be enough to calm you down. In gambling you need money and luck rather than patience. You don't need a lot of hits to succeed. If you're lucky you'll be able to hit the jackpot in a few hits, if you're not lucky, patience will take your money. I don't think an ideal gambler ever bets with patience for their own results, they always bet with limits. Exceeding the limit means that you cannot control yourself in gambling.

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Gambling depends on general luck, if you are not lucky enough to win at gambling then you will never win with patience. Usually I tried hard enough and used many spins to win the jackpot but somehow I didn't win the jackpot. Now in this situation if I just patiently gamble I will have no choice but to face losses.

And I also bet on other side games and there based on experience it is usually possible to win, like football, cricket, handball and basketball if I bet and according to my experience I try hard enough to win. So I think experience and luck play the biggest role in gambling.

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Quote from: Eternad on October 30, 2024, 06:46:56 PM

Aside from luck since it can’t be measure and categorized as skill, Patience is the most key factor in able to become successful in slot game. It can help you to minimize your loss and at the same time increase the chance to hit the jackpot since your bet size will be fix.

Most of the losing slot players always use a high bet amount just to increase their potential profit while they didn’t consider their bankroll is not in proportion to their bet already.

I come to this realization after noticing many use win high multiplier using low amount because they have more chance to spin compared to those betting in high bet amount since it quickly consumed their bankroll.

When discussing slot games, patience becomes irrelevant if we have minimal experience playing in casinos. Even if we say that there is 200$ the amount that we will enter in a casino when you admit that you are unlucky in playing slot games, your 200$ will be used up quickly if you bet high on each roll of your slot games.

So, it means that patience in gambling depends on the bankroll balance that we enter in gambling in the casino, right? How can we measure our patience when the amount we bet is small? Unless you are lucky with a small amount, that is why you spend so much time playing gambling.

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I agree with this, besides that patience also seems to be the same as good self-control so the key to gambling is to have good self-control with the aim of not gambling excessively, many people who can't be patient in gambling but in the end it just makes them end up miserably like losing money in large amounts because of the desire to win which drives the risk of losing to be forgotten even though it is a certainty.
Actually there is no certainty, even though we use a large bet amount that can get a win, in my opinion it all depends on luck. I'm sure there are people who can get big wins with the lowest bet amount even though there is a limit but at least it is a big win point that matches the amount of bet they make.
With those who use large bets there are two possibilities, including they have a lot of funds, or they can't be patient.

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If it is related to minimizing losses, patience is one of the main keys for us to get used to controlling ourselves strongly and avoiding risky things in luck-based games. But on the one hand we also have to have a target, for example in 1000 spins we don't get any results, it's better to stop immediately and come back tomorrow.
So by playing patiently and always maintaining the plan, we can definitely get closer to luck even though the chances are small.
Although this method does not provide a guarantee, at least with patience and high commitment we can save our budget for gambling in the next few days and try our luck again.

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I don't understand the concept of patience here do you mean be more patient when doing each round without trying to bet with a large amount? if you bet with the lowest amount you will only spend your time gambling staring at your computer screen until you get the bonus you want, doesn't gambling need limits? if you have prepared money for example 10 $ you don't need to do a round from the lowest amount you just do a few bonus rounds if you are lucky you will get profit and vice versa but the most important thing is if you have set money to gamble if it runs out immediately stop and do not make a deposit again to make a bigger bet maybe that's where your patience will be tested.

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This is not always true but I understand the point. I said this is not always true since the house edge will guarantee your loss the longer you play any casino games. You have a good chance to escape on this house edge effect if you will win early which the luck part enter.

Without luck, Being patient or some sort factor will not matter at. This will just help you to prolong the game which is good if you are enjoying it. But profit wise, it’s not really good to play longer because of the house edge.

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Quote from: Eternad on October 30, 2024, 06:46:56 PM

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It's... not? People keep saying "patience" like it's some sort of cheat key for people to win. No, it's not. Nor does it help in trying to minimize the losses you'd have. It's just... trying to lose MORE slowly. If you were talking about a skill that doesn't let people consume their bankroll fast, then don't put money in your bankroll that you can't afford to lose in the first place! If it's in your bankroll, it's money MEANT to be spent. Doesn't matter how fast or slow it is lol.

If you meant patience by not putting in more money after losing everything then yeah, I'd agree with that.

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Patience isn't a skill; patience is a virtue. Although even if you consider patience as skill, it isn't what you need when playing slot. I guess what you need is a large bankroll. You need to have a deep pocket if you want to have fun and stay in the game for some time.

But I agree with you that the amount of bet should be proportionate to the player's bankroll. You can't bet $1 per spin if what you have is only $50 or $100.

In the end, however, to each his own. If your kind of fun and thrill is when you bet $5 each spin from your hundred-dollar bankroll, then it's all good. After all, it shouldn't be income that's the goal of a slot gambler.

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Re: Most important skills on slot is patience

Thanks for sharing OP, but I would disagree on this one.
It isn't patience that's the most important skill on slot, but it's SELF-CONTROL. I put it into caps because I know that self-control is more important than being patient.

You can be patient out there playing slots and you will end up losing money. You can sit for hours but still lose money. On the other hand, you can play slots, and since you can control yourself, you know what to do whether you win or lose. If you win X amount of money, just go home and sleep and return the next night. If you lose, go home and sleep and gamble the next night again. Being patient will not give you that kind of thinking because you can be patient, but you're spending lots and lots of money because you can't control yourself.

Patience is one of the most important skills through and thanks OP for sharing it, but for me, self-control is way more important. On the flip side, having one of these 2 skills alone isn't enough for you to win huge money because in the end, you will still need some luck. Tongue

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Quote from: Eternad on October 30, 2024, 06:46:56 PM

Aside from luck since it can’t be measure and categorized as skill, Patience is the most key factor in able to become successful in slot game. It can help you to minimize your loss and at the same time increase the chance to hit the jackpot since your bet size will be fix.

In slot game, no matter how patient you are you may still be at lost. Patients in slot game is categorised in two forms, Either you are patient and lost all without recovery or being patient and be lucky to win big. But the main point is that slot game is all about luck so no matter the time spent does not guarantee a big win. You may still be patient and and be loosing and getting addicted. perhaps you would have moved when you had the opportunity, but being patient sometimes can Leed to addiction.

Quote from: Eternad on October 30, 2024, 06:46:56 PM

Most of the losing slot players always use a high bet amount just to increase their potential profit while they didn’t consider their bankroll is not in proportion to their bet already.

That is a good observation here, I equally will advice is that people should reduce their staking power to increase more chances of Playing, but when the fund has finished it's better to continue another day because someday are bad days which if you continue and hoping to win you mall lose alot.

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