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Quote from: MadGamer on November 02, 2015, 01:23:29 PM

Quote from: Scream on November 02, 2015, 10:12:37 AM

i save more than 1BTC at online wallet (coinbase)
and save more than 1BTC at paper wallet

for me paper wallet is good place for long term wallet and online wallet is best place to save bitcoin for daily activity

how exactly it's safe (the coinbase online wallet) if we take in consideration that an online wallet can be hacked at any time ? even if it's not by you (means hacker inject you with a RAT or trojan) , the hack can happen from their side .

Coinbase AFAIK does feature a cold storage function with keys stored at geographically distributed locations. It does not completely rule out the risk of their cold storage being compromised by RNG though. However, they would have tested it several times to ensure that the keys generated isn't weak. They are also insured.

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Quote from: notlist3d on October 31, 2015, 03:02:43 AM

Printers also can get infected aswell but it is not as common. If new printer some store the last so many prints in it. I suggest unplugging it for a few minutes and plug back in hoping to get rid of cache.

The older and dumber the printer the better it is to use. And of course don't use a public printer.

My printer is unplugged 99% of the time. Is that safe?

Its a dumb printer it doesnt have LAN access, nor any other extra features.

Most printer have a cache, my cheap laser printer has a 8mb cache. Information although highly unlikely, can be extracted if you ever dump your printer.

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Quote from: notlist3d on October 31, 2015, 03:02:43 AM

Printers also can get infected aswell but it is not as common. If new printer some store the last so many prints in it. I suggest unplugging it for a few minutes and plug back in hoping to get rid of cache.

The older and dumber the printer the better it is to use. And of course don't use a public printer.

My printer is unplugged 99% of the time. Is that safe?

Its a dumb printer it doesnt have LAN access, nor any other extra features.

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Quote from: MadGamer on November 02, 2015, 01:23:29 PM

Quote from: Scream on November 02, 2015, 10:12:37 AM

i save more than 1BTC at online wallet (coinbase)
and save more than 1BTC at paper wallet

for me paper wallet is good place for long term wallet and online wallet is best place to save bitcoin for daily activity

how exactly it's safe (the coinbase online wallet) if we take in consideration that an online wallet can be hacked at any time ? even if it's not by you (means hacker inject you with a RAT or trojan) , the hack can happen from their side .

They are insured on coinbase on their side. So if hack happened and they were cause they should get insurance to pay the people who lost money (this has never been tested I don't think on having to be used but they show it's in place).

As far if you are targeted and it's from your side then coinbase is no insurance. It's a loss to you.

So still paper wallet for long term storage is best. But for a spending wallet with just a little in it not bad overall.

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Quote from: Scream on November 02, 2015, 10:12:37 AM

Quote from: richardsNY on November 02, 2015, 10:08:49 AM

Quote from: smith coins on November 02, 2015, 09:33:11 AM

Quote from: Mickeyb on October 25, 2015, 04:05:21 PM

Quote from: smith coins on October 25, 2015, 10:54:47 AM

Quote from: breakers11 on October 25, 2015, 10:41:26 AM

Blockchain.info is all the best Bitcoin wallet i have ever seen, best from other. It provides good security for securing your money in wallet.

Well you think that it is the best but i don't think so.
Because last few weeks i saw many negative experiences from the members here in forum.
Also the official bitcoin website has removed blockchain.info from their wallet choices.

The worst Bitcoin wallet by far! Being removed from official website wallet page only confirms this. The buggiest wallet out there that was very prone to the recent malleability attacks. Many users have complained about it in the last few weeks as you said it and yes it's an online wallet. We shouldn't be really using online wallets!

Cheers!

Since the official bitcoin website has removed from their list,
There is no more trust to use blockchain wallet.
I use that website only for explore and to see if any transaction gets confirmed.

People should never keep much coins on blockchain.info or any other web based wallet service. Never keep more coins in online wallets than you have in your physical wallet. In my case it's barely more than $100.

i save more than 1BTC at online wallet (coinbase)
and save more than 1BTC at paper wallet

for me paper wallet is good place for long term wallet and online wallet is best place to save bitcoin for daily activity

how exactly it's safe (the coinbase online wallet) if we take in consideration that an online wallet can be hacked at any time ? even if it's not by you (means hacker inject you with a RAT or trojan) , the hack can happen from their side .

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Quote from: richardsNY on November 02, 2015, 10:08:49 AM

Quote from: smith coins on November 02, 2015, 09:33:11 AM

Quote from: Mickeyb on October 25, 2015, 04:05:21 PM

Quote from: smith coins on October 25, 2015, 10:54:47 AM

Quote from: breakers11 on October 25, 2015, 10:41:26 AM

Blockchain.info is all the best Bitcoin wallet i have ever seen, best from other. It provides good security for securing your money in wallet.

Well you think that it is the best but i don't think so.
Because last few weeks i saw many negative experiences from the members here in forum.
Also the official bitcoin website has removed blockchain.info from their wallet choices.

The worst Bitcoin wallet by far! Being removed from official website wallet page only confirms this. The buggiest wallet out there that was very prone to the recent malleability attacks. Many users have complained about it in the last few weeks as you said it and yes it's an online wallet. We shouldn't be really using online wallets!

Cheers!

Since the official bitcoin website has removed from their list,
There is no more trust to use blockchain wallet.
I use that website only for explore and to see if any transaction gets confirmed.

People should never keep much coins on blockchain.info or any other web based wallet service. Never keep more coins in online wallets than you have in your physical wallet. In my case it's barely more than $100.

i save more than 1BTC at online wallet (coinbase)
and save more than 1BTC at paper wallet

for me paper wallet is good place for long term wallet and online wallet is best place to save bitcoin for daily activity

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Quote from: smith coins on November 02, 2015, 09:33:11 AM

Quote from: Mickeyb on October 25, 2015, 04:05:21 PM

Quote from: smith coins on October 25, 2015, 10:54:47 AM

Quote from: breakers11 on October 25, 2015, 10:41:26 AM

Blockchain.info is all the best Bitcoin wallet i have ever seen, best from other. It provides good security for securing your money in wallet.

Well you think that it is the best but i don't think so.
Because last few weeks i saw many negative experiences from the members here in forum.
Also the official bitcoin website has removed blockchain.info from their wallet choices.

The worst Bitcoin wallet by far! Being removed from official website wallet page only confirms this. The buggiest wallet out there that was very prone to the recent malleability attacks. Many users have complained about it in the last few weeks as you said it and yes it's an online wallet. We shouldn't be really using online wallets!

Cheers!

Since the official bitcoin website has removed from their list,
There is no more trust to use blockchain wallet.
I use that website only for explore and to see if any transaction gets confirmed.

People should never keep much coins on blockchain.info or any other web based wallet service. Never keep more coins in online wallets than you have in your physical wallet. In my case it's barely more than $100.

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Quote from: Mickeyb on October 25, 2015, 04:05:21 PM

Quote from: smith coins on October 25, 2015, 10:54:47 AM

Quote from: breakers11 on October 25, 2015, 10:41:26 AM

Blockchain.info is all the best Bitcoin wallet i have ever seen, best from other. It provides good security for securing your money in wallet.

Well you think that it is the best but i don't think so.
Because last few weeks i saw many negative experiences from the members here in forum.
Also the official bitcoin website has removed blockchain.info from their wallet choices.

The worst Bitcoin wallet by far! Being removed from official website wallet page only confirms this. The buggiest wallet out there that was very prone to the recent malleability attacks. Many users have complained about it in the last few weeks as you said it and yes it's an online wallet. We shouldn't be really using online wallets!

Cheers!

Since the official bitcoin website has removed from their list,
There is no more trust to use blockchain wallet.
I use that website only for explore and to see if any transaction gets confirmed.

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Quote from: bitart on October 31, 2015, 07:49:13 AM

Do you need QR code for your paper wallet, or it is enough if you write down the private key _manually_ with pen on a plain A4 paper and after you laminate it? And put it into a safe afterwards, and later on if you need it, you just need to read ther private key from the paper? Can you use mycellium without QR for cold storage or it needs QR format anyway?
If you scan a QR code into mycellium, won't it remember for it after? How can I be sure that it does not store my privare key?

for me i will choose to make QR code
my other method (aside from https://www.bitaddress.org/ )
create new address with vanitygen (offline mode) and create Qr Code with pc dekstop aplication after it you can printing the Qr Code and save it

NB : uninstal your QR code after create it also clean registry and chace

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most secure bitcoin wallet is a hardware wallet which you can buy online and if you dont want to spend any money then its paper wallet

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Quote from: bitart on October 31, 2015, 07:49:13 AM

Quote from: ranochigo on October 31, 2015, 03:37:24 AM

Quote from: lixer on October 31, 2015, 03:34:37 AM

Quote from: Scream on October 31, 2015, 01:12:20 AM

Quote from: BitOffer on October 29, 2015, 07:34:44 PM

I used paper wallet and I put on my vault. If your pc has no malware and trojan when you print paper wallets it would be the safest.

you can use https://www.bitaddress.org/ to create new paper wallet

sure it , best safety wallet with cheap cost

I do not know how to rally on a third party for paper wallet. It seems a completely new thing for me. I don't know how to get the QR code for over private key with the kind of service and how secure it is. If anyone share their experience with this site would be most useful.

Bitaddress.org is basically a script written for generation of paper wallet. It is open sourced and anyone can check and build it themselves. The first screen is basically used to increase the entropy for the generation of private key. It can also be done offline and printed out. To spend it, you can download mycelium wallet and use the spend cold storage feature. It supports BIP38 encryption too.

Do you need QR code for your paper wallet, or it is enough if you write down the private key _manually_ with pen on a plain A4 paper and after you laminate it? And put it into a safe afterwards, and later on if you need it, you just need to read ther private key from the paper? Can you use mycellium without QR for cold storage or it needs QR format anyway?
If you scan a QR code into mycellium, won't it remember for it after? How can I be sure that it does not store my privare key?

You can write it down. But being humans, there is a possibility of you making mistakes and it takes a long time. There isn't much difference between printing a Qr code and writing it down manually. AFAIK, Mycelium does not allow users to key in private keys when using cold wallet function. You are better off just printing the Qr code. If you insist, I would just generate it on a offline Raspberry Pi.

Mycelium is opensourced so you can review the source code yourself. They claim to delete the private key from memory once the transaction is sent. I haven't have time to verify the source code though.

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Quote from: ranochigo on October 31, 2015, 03:37:24 AM

Quote from: lixer on October 31, 2015, 03:34:37 AM

Quote from: Scream on October 31, 2015, 01:12:20 AM

Quote from: BitOffer on October 29, 2015, 07:34:44 PM

I used paper wallet and I put on my vault. If your pc has no malware and trojan when you print paper wallets it would be the safest.

you can use https://www.bitaddress.org/ to create new paper wallet

sure it , best safety wallet with cheap cost

I do not know how to rally on a third party for paper wallet. It seems a completely new thing for me. I don't know how to get the QR code for over private key with the kind of service and how secure it is. If anyone share their experience with this site would be most useful.

Bitaddress.org is basically a script written for generation of paper wallet. It is open sourced and anyone can check and build it themselves. The first screen is basically used to increase the entropy for the generation of private key. It can also be done offline and printed out. To spend it, you can download mycelium wallet and use the spend cold storage feature. It supports BIP38 encryption too.

Do you need QR code for your paper wallet, or it is enough if you write down the private key _manually_ with pen on a plain A4 paper and after you laminate it? And put it into a safe afterwards, and later on if you need it, you just need to read ther private key from the paper? Can you use mycellium without QR for cold storage or it needs QR format anyway?
If you scan a QR code into mycellium, won't it remember for it after? How can I be sure that it does not store my privare key?

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Quote from: Scream on October 31, 2015, 04:23:16 AM

Quote from: ranochigo on October 31, 2015, 03:44:04 AM

Quote from: Scream on October 31, 2015, 03:40:31 AM

Quote from: notlist3d on October 31, 2015, 03:02:43 AM

Quote from: Scream on October 31, 2015, 01:12:20 AM

Quote from: BitOffer on October 29, 2015, 07:34:44 PM

I used paper wallet and I put on my vault. If your pc has no malware and trojan when you print paper wallets it would be the safest.

you can use https://www.bitaddress.org/ to create new paper wallet

sure it , best safety wallet with cheap cost

Printers also can get infected aswell but it is not as common. If new printer some store the last so many prints in it. I suggest unplugging it for a few minutes and plug back in hoping to get rid of cache.

The older and dumber the printer the better it is to use. And of course don't use a public printer.

I never heard about it Huh

printer also can get infected ?
and printer save a"chace" Huh

any detail of it?

I'm pretty sure the firmware can be infected since most printers can be connected to the network nowadays. Newer printers have a cache space of 8Mb+. This is due to the fact that many computer loads the info to the computer before they print and is therefore more efficient for the printer as it does not have to load from the computer slowly while its printing.

WOW
it's new for me, i print my paper wallet at office, where the printer used by 4 person,
after i know the printer have a chace space of 8mb + i will unplug after i printing my paper wallet >_<

It is scary honestly on some of the flaws that are out there. I have a computer security degree and can say there is always something new.

One of the worst is the huge all in one copiers that big businesses have (The combo copier/fax/email/etc). You would be amazed at the amount of cache some have on it. Also a amazing amount of installers will leave default credentials enabled, which allows a lot depending on company and model.

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Quote from: ranochigo on October 31, 2015, 03:44:04 AM

Quote from: Scream on October 31, 2015, 03:40:31 AM

Quote from: notlist3d on October 31, 2015, 03:02:43 AM

Quote from: Scream on October 31, 2015, 01:12:20 AM

Quote from: BitOffer on October 29, 2015, 07:34:44 PM

I used paper wallet and I put on my vault. If your pc has no malware and trojan when you print paper wallets it would be the safest.

you can use https://www.bitaddress.org/ to create new paper wallet

sure it , best safety wallet with cheap cost

Printers also can get infected aswell but it is not as common. If new printer some store the last so many prints in it. I suggest unplugging it for a few minutes and plug back in hoping to get rid of cache.

The older and dumber the printer the better it is to use. And of course don't use a public printer.

I never heard about it Huh

printer also can get infected ?
and printer save a"chace" Huh

any detail of it?

I'm pretty sure the firmware can be infected since most printers can be connected to the network nowadays. Newer printers have a cache space of 8Mb+. This is due to the fact that many computer loads the info to the computer before they print and is therefore more efficient for the printer as it does not have to load from the computer slowly while its printing.

WOW
it's new for me, i print my paper wallet at office, where the printer used by 4 person,
after i know the printer have a chace space of 8mb + i will unplug after i printing my paper wallet >_<

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Quote from: Scream on October 31, 2015, 03:40:31 AM

Quote from: notlist3d on October 31, 2015, 03:02:43 AM

Quote from: Scream on October 31, 2015, 01:12:20 AM

Quote from: BitOffer on October 29, 2015, 07:34:44 PM

I used paper wallet and I put on my vault. If your pc has no malware and trojan when you print paper wallets it would be the safest.

you can use https://www.bitaddress.org/ to create new paper wallet

sure it , best safety wallet with cheap cost

Printers also can get infected aswell but it is not as common. If new printer some store the last so many prints in it. I suggest unplugging it for a few minutes and plug back in hoping to get rid of cache.

The older and dumber the printer the better it is to use. And of course don't use a public printer.

I never heard about it Huh

printer also can get infected ?
and printer save a"chace" Huh

any detail of it?

I'm pretty sure the firmware can be infected since most printers can be connected to the network nowadays. Newer printers have a cache space of 8Mb+. This is due to the fact that many computer loads the info to the computer before they print and is therefore more efficient for the printer as it does not have to load from the computer slowly while its printing.

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Quote from: notlist3d on October 31, 2015, 03:02:43 AM

Quote from: Scream on October 31, 2015, 01:12:20 AM

Quote from: BitOffer on October 29, 2015, 07:34:44 PM

I used paper wallet and I put on my vault. If your pc has no malware and trojan when you print paper wallets it would be the safest.

you can use https://www.bitaddress.org/ to create new paper wallet

sure it , best safety wallet with cheap cost

Printers also can get infected aswell but it is not as common. If new printer some store the last so many prints in it. I suggest unplugging it for a few minutes and plug back in hoping to get rid of cache.

The older and dumber the printer the better it is to use. And of course don't use a public printer.

I never heard about it Huh

printer also can get infected ?
and printer save a"chace" Huh

any detail of it?

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Quote from: lixer on October 31, 2015, 03:34:37 AM

Quote from: Scream on October 31, 2015, 01:12:20 AM

Quote from: BitOffer on October 29, 2015, 07:34:44 PM

I used paper wallet and I put on my vault. If your pc has no malware and trojan when you print paper wallets it would be the safest.

you can use https://www.bitaddress.org/ to create new paper wallet

sure it , best safety wallet with cheap cost

I do not know how to rally on a third party for paper wallet. It seems a completely new thing for me. I don't know how to get the QR code for over private key with the kind of service and how secure it is. If anyone share their experience with this site would be most useful.

Bitaddress.org is basically a script written for generation of paper wallet. It is open sourced and anyone can check and build it themselves. The first screen is basically used to increase the entropy for the generation of private key. It can also be done offline and printed out. To spend it, you can download mycelium wallet and use the spend cold storage feature. It supports BIP38 encryption too.

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Quote from: Scream on October 31, 2015, 01:12:20 AM

Quote from: BitOffer on October 29, 2015, 07:34:44 PM

I used paper wallet and I put on my vault. If your pc has no malware and trojan when you print paper wallets it would be the safest.

you can use https://www.bitaddress.org/ to create new paper wallet

sure it , best safety wallet with cheap cost

I do not know how to rally on a third party for paper wallet. It seems a completely new thing for me. I don't know how to get the QR code for over private key with the kind of service and how secure it is. If anyone share their experience with this site would be most useful.

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Quote from: Scream on October 31, 2015, 01:12:20 AM

Quote from: BitOffer on October 29, 2015, 07:34:44 PM

I used paper wallet and I put on my vault. If your pc has no malware and trojan when you print paper wallets it would be the safest.

you can use https://www.bitaddress.org/ to create new paper wallet

sure it , best safety wallet with cheap cost

Printers also can get infected aswell but it is not as common. If new printer some store the last so many prints in it. I suggest unplugging it for a few minutes and plug back in hoping to get rid of cache.

The older and dumber the printer the better it is to use. And of course don't use a public printer.

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Quote from: BitOffer on October 29, 2015, 07:34:44 PM

I used paper wallet and I put on my vault. If your pc has no malware and trojan when you print paper wallets it would be the safest.

you can use https://www.bitaddress.org/ to create new paper wallet

sure it , best safety wallet with cheap cost

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