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Quote from: maculeth on July 18, 2019, 11:46:05 AM

VALENTINO ROSSI dismissed the factor that caused the difficulty to win this season due to age, Rossi acknowledged the fasting of this victory was not pleasant, but did not want to be too concerned and focus on fixing the pace of the bike. Slanting talk about his age of 40 years also according to him is less relevant. we don't give up because I'm really old, that's for sure. But last year I was also old and also five years ago I was old, "said the VR46 statement, because at the age of 5 years, ROSSI was still competitive.

Sports usually, when you got older will you will become
Slower your reflexes will start to deteriorate there's a saying goes the mind is willing but the body will not, but Rossi is considerably different at his age he can still prove that age doesn't matter, he is still competitive. What I admired him most is his acceptance,

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I wish Senna had retired and somehow found justification for it. Theres no dishonour is walking away at your own choosing, I just think some cannot retire no matter what as they need the experience and it is ingrained within who they are. I salute anyone who makes the best decision for their long term.

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Quote from: roycilik on July 19, 2019, 03:58:20 PM

Quote from: maculeth on July 18, 2019, 11:46:05 AM

VALENTINO ROSSI dismissed the factor that caused the difficulty to win this season due to age,

This means that VR46 is time to follow The Little Spaniard to retire :v

Pedrosa made the right choice to retire.
He struggled so much with the injuries that he had in the past.
If he hadn't so many injuries he would be transformed into a big champion but he was unlucky.

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Quote from: maculeth on July 18, 2019, 11:46:05 AM

VALENTINO ROSSI dismissed the factor that caused the difficulty to win this season due to age,

This means that VR46 is time to follow The Little Spaniard to retire :v

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Quote from: Naida_BR on July 18, 2019, 11:50:29 AM

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VALENTINO ROSSI dismissed the factor that caused the difficulty to win this season due to age, Rossi acknowledged the fasting of this victory was not pleasant, but did not want to be too concerned and focus on fixing the pace of the bike. Slanting talk about his age of 40 years also according to him is less relevant. we don't give up because I'm really old, that's for sure. But last year I was also old and also five years ago I was old, "said the VR46 statement, because at the age of 5 years, ROSSI was still competitive.

I agree that age doesn't play so vital role and the most of the "slow" pace of role is to be blamed due to his bike.
However, it is widely accepted that when an athlete gets old he losses his reflexes and it is more difficult to be in a good shape. These are some factors that have to be considered when discussing Rossi's performance.

yes, I agree, but it might be a little different if it was a problem in the city of Yamaha, in fact Rossi could still taste the podium at the start of this season.

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Quote from: maculeth on July 18, 2019, 11:46:05 AM

VALENTINO ROSSI dismissed the factor that caused the difficulty to win this season due to age, Rossi acknowledged the fasting of this victory was not pleasant, but did not want to be too concerned and focus on fixing the pace of the bike. Slanting talk about his age of 40 years also according to him is less relevant. we don't give up because I'm really old, that's for sure. But last year I was also old and also five years ago I was old, "said the VR46 statement, because at the age of 5 years, ROSSI was still competitive.

I agree that age doesn't play so vital role and the most of the "slow" pace of role is to be blamed due to his bike.
However, it is widely accepted that when an athlete gets old he losses his reflexes and it is more difficult to be in a good shape. These are some factors that have to be considered when discussing Rossi's performance.

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VALENTINO ROSSI dismissed the factor that caused the difficulty to win this season due to age, Rossi acknowledged the fasting of this victory was not pleasant, but did not want to be too concerned and focus on fixing the pace of the bike. Slanting talk about his age of 40 years also according to him is less relevant. we don't give up because I'm really old, that's for sure. But last year I was also old and also five years ago I was old, "said the VR46 statement, because at the age of 5 years, ROSSI was still competitive.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on July 14, 2019, 11:52:06 AM

LeClerc is a best he and Verstappen and maybe Norris will be the next Tier of drivers.

The Overtake done today by LeClerc Over Gasly was something amazing, never seen it there and I'm following Formula1 for at least 20 years.

Indeed Leclerc made an amazing race with this overtake being the highlight of the race.
On the contrary, Leclerc's teammate, Sebastian Vettel made another disastrous race. I was sad that he destroyed Verstappen's race without any reason. Max whould be in the second position if Vettel didn't hit on him.

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Yesterday race was entertaining,a lot of action through the race which is not usual in F1 from a long time now.Vettel made a mistake but apologized to Verstappen after the race while Hamilton yesterday was a bit lucky from the safety car and did not take the win in normal conditions.I think we need more races like this.

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Formula 1 Britisg GP race Results

1   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   52 laps
2   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 24.928s
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   + 30.117s
4   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   + 34.692s
5   Max Verstappen   NED   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   + 39.458s
6   Carlos Sainz   ESP   McLaren F1 Team   + 53.639s
7   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Renault F1 Team   + 54.401s
8   Kimi Raikkonen   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 65.540s
9   Daniil Kvyat   RUS   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 66.720s
10   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Renault F1 Team   + 72.733s
11   Alexander Albon   THA   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 74.281s
12   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   + 75.617s
13   Lance Stroll   CAN   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 81.086s
14   George Russell   GBR   ROKiT Williams Racing   +1 lap
15   Robert Kubica   POL   ROKiT Williams Racing   +1 lap
16   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Scuderia Ferrari   +1 lap*
17   Sergio Perez   MEX   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   +1 lap
RET   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing
RET   Romain Grosjean   FRA   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team
RET   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team

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@LTU_btc. I was enoying the race between Max and Charles Leclerc until the Sebastian, Max incident. Max might also have overtaken Charles if their battle continued for more laps.

However, Sebastian immediately apologized and Max happily accepted. Why is Max effortless on being ok about it? It appears he does not care. Will he leave Redbull after this year?

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It was another good race to watch, Hamilton was lucky today because he got free pitstop when safety car was released while Bottas had already changed tyres. And another time we saw how Vettel failed under pressure - it already become common. Now Leclerc just 3 points behind and I wouldn't be surprised if he will finnish above Vettel at end of this season. Despite that Gasly lost position to Leclerc, I think it was good race for him. Red Bull spowly are getting closer to Ferrari in constructors championship.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on July 13, 2019, 12:56:56 PM

F1 Qualifying day today.
Bottas is going to start from the 1st position but I don't think that he is going to endure the pressure of Hamilton.
Personally, I am going to bet for Hamilton winning the Grand Prix as he is driving in his home and Silverstone is one track that fits great his aggressive driving method.

I think so, it cannot be ascertained that the pole position holder is the champion, moreover this is at Hamilton's home race, in addition to a lot of experience here, surely the support from the audience will make it a spirit to fight in front.

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LeClerc is a best he and Verstappen and maybe Norris will be the next Tier of drivers.

The Overtake done today by LeClerc Over Gasly was something amazing, never seen it there and I'm following Formula1 for at least 20 years.

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Lewis Hamilton wins the Formula 1 British Grand Prix again. He had a tough call with Valtteri Bottas from the Mercedes team.
This is going to be a great day for English people. Both Grand Prix and cricket world cup coming home.

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RESULTS This race, MARQUEZ managed to become the first, and recorded a record of winning ten times in a row, followed by VINALES in second place, and CRUCHLOW in third place. This victory at the same time cemented Marquez as the first class top-ranked MOTOGP 2019.

Who would expect that when Marquez came to the MotoGP in the beginning.
He is already a Legend and I feel pretty sad that Valentino Rossi (the driver that I was raised with) is below Marquez. Rossi was legend to me, but new legends should rise after him.

yes I agree, maybe there will be a lot of Rossi's record that will be solved by Marquez, but charismatic a Valentino Rossi I don't think anyone can replace him. Because of the different storyline, Marq Marquez and Valentino Rossi

Valentino Rossi is an icon in MotoGp and everyone loves him but for me Marq Marquez is a better overall pilot and he always fight for the victory many times losing all points because of different crashes through his young career.Rossi time I think is well over and he should retire based on his latest 3-4 year results but if he likes to continue we all love this too.

yes, I agree Marq Marquez is the dominant racer in the current era, but as an audience we certainly don't just want to watch Marc Marquez always be a champion, even if you have to witness it, maybe it would be better if Marc moved the team, so that there was another sensation when Marc won with another team.

And also another scenario is that Marquez is in a stronger team that Rossi.
In my opinion, in Motorsports it is very crucial in which team a driver participates.
But if we want to see the championship more competent I think that it would be not good to see only Marquez winning the title, even if he is so good.

yes more or less like that, trying to dismiss public opinion that MARQUEZ can be world champion with other teams, I think Marc's ability at MOTOGP is undoubtedly with various titles and records that have been achieved. But with just one team, we are still looking forward to winning the MARC with other teams. Grin

Marquez ability and skills his precise movement in the track, is the talent that even if he will transfer to another team his talent will prevail. But conditions of the racing machine will also matters because it isn't only the ability but also engineering, chemistry and team work is essential in motor sports.

there will be many possibilities, when he moves the team, he might stay great with other teams, it could be the opposite, but when marquez is great with other teams, and other riders also get the right motorbike and there are no technical problems, surely MOTOGP will always be interesting in every series.

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Quote from: jademaxsuy on July 14, 2019, 09:34:14 AM

This one is real good sport with expensive equipment. I do like to watch races and but not been familiar with the racers. I will going to check and research about the sport since I am also fan of modifications on cars and bikes. Speed is one of my habit riding on my bike or car.

Yet, I just wonder how dangerous it would be to race a super speed car? pretty sure that it will not be easy to drivr fast and race.

Reaching the level of F1 driver is not just in an instant, you will start with carting their young age, this driver's are on the top of thei different racing competition. before they reach F1 caliber.

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This one is real good sport with expensive equipment. I do like to watch races and but not been familiar with the racers. I will going to check and research about the sport since I am also fan of modifications on cars and bikes. Speed is one of my habit riding on my bike or car.

Yet, I just wonder how dangerous it would be to race a super speed car? pretty sure that it will not be easy to drivr fast and race.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on July 13, 2019, 12:56:56 PM

F1 Qualifying day today.
Bottas is going to start from the 1st position but I don't think that he is going to endure the pressure of Hamilton.
Personally, I am going to bet for Hamilton winning the Grand Prix as he is driving in his home and Silverstone is one track that fits great his aggressive driving method.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 13, 2019, 10:20:27 PM

@Naida_BR. Agreed! This is also Lewis Hamilton's home race. Team orders hehehe. Also, the 2nd row on the grid is Charles versus Max again. Who will first push the other out on the side?

Hamilton is everyone’s favourite to win this race even though he’s not starting from the 1st position I yet believe he’ll be able to win it. Bottas has been giving some great performances lately, do you’ll feel that next season Mercedes will consider Bottas ahead of Hamilton and we may be able to see a new champion?. Charles may have finished in top 3 but I doubt he’ll be able to stop Mercedes from winning this race, as he has admitted that Mercedes speed was difficult to catch up with.

News Source: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.fia-post-qualifying-press-conference-great-britain-2019.ySMlbQyFmpM21CWXKDdlv.html