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Maybe these the moment were Verstappen to shine in the podium, with team work and with better strategy, a better race and even getting championship, Hopefully we see some other drivers that would shine in the podium.

I'm sorry but Hamilton is not the favorite of this race.
For the bookmakers, the favorite is Max Verstappen with an odd of 1.95 for him and 3.4 for Lewis Hamilton.
1.95 is rather high so Verstappen is not a big favorite, but the odd for Lewis Hamilton is even higher.
So, there will be suspense this afternoon. Hamilton is in 3rd position on the starting grid while Verstappen is in pole position.
Verstappen even beat the track record during the qualifying session.

https://www.oddschecker.com/motorsport/formula-1/hungarian-grand-prix/winner

I really hate team order sometimes. It's as if one of the riders need to slow down and make a way to pass his friends so he can win the race. That's not a race at all.

I still believe Hamilton will win the race, has lots of experience behind him and he's really strong this season. It would be a surprise if he didn't win just because he didn't get the pole.

Verstappen showed great form to clinch the pole position, and Hamilton will really need to work hard on his strategy to beat him. While Verstappen is starting from pole, I feel he’ll loose it to Hamilton as he’s not experienced enough to beat him. Bottas is a good driver but Mercedes will never allow him to beat Hamilton, I’m sure they’ll ask him to make way for Hamilton in today’s race.

He got too much luck the past week with his victory he needs to compensate .

I hope finally for a fight between Bottas and Hamilton, last week Bottas lost a huge opportunity for the comeback on the leaderboard.

What he is waiting for? He is so week this should be the last year to Mercedes (always if Hamilton will not leave at the end of the season).

He is too weak, he doesn't deserve the best car on the game IMHO, there are better pilots than him.

The circuit this weekend is a very good circuit for RB. So I won't put my money on Hamilton this weekend. ;-)

Max is on fire last races. It looks promising for the second half of the season.

Let's hope Max have a good start this time.

I'm following the Formula 1 from over 15 years and I can't remember a fun race here, maybe there was one with the rain but I can't remember correctly.

" F1, Hungary: where it’s impossible to overtake."

https://racingspot.pirelli.com/global/en-ww/race/f1-hungary-where-it-s-impossible-to-overtake-most-of-the-time

Have a good reading.

hope the race isn't boring
new enthusiasm after the half-season holiday, hoping that ROSSI can podium in the race this time, so that it can prove to YAMAHA and all MOTOGP spectators that ROSSI is still able to compete.

This thread is for all racing series, not just F1 or MotoGP.
I saw few races of Formula E and it left me strange impression. They do races at very narrow street circuits and it means there are lot of crashes every race. And all cars are identical, so driver skills is most important here. But what I don't like is sound of these cars - they sounds like vacuum cleaners and this noise is a bit annoying. Damn, I miss sound of V12 engines in F1...
Why you're so sceptical? Yes, this track isn't best for overtaking, but few last races here was really interesting. There are some worse and more boring race circuits in F1, like Sochi, France, Monaco...

Amazing performance by Red Bull Honda.
Well bode to Max Verstappen for winning his 1st pole position in his career!

2019 FORMULA 1 HUNGARIAN GRAND PRIX - QUALIFYING RESULTS

POS   DRIVER   NAT   TEAM   Q1   Q2   Q3
1   Max Verstappen   NED   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   1m15.817s   + 0.025s   1m14.572s
2   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 0.261s   + 0.121s   + 0.018s
3   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 0.251s   1m15.548s   + 0.197s
4   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   + 0.520s   + 0.244s   + 0.471s
5   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Scuderia Ferrari   + 0.635s   + 0.337s   + 0.499s
6   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   + 0.899s   + 0.845s   + 0.878s
7   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   + 0.880s   + 0.512s   + 1.228s
8   Carlos Sainz   ESP   McLaren F1 Team   + 0.676s   + 0.760s   + 1.280s
9   Romain Grosjean   FRA   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 1.161s   + 0.771s   + 1.441s
10   Kimi Raikkonen   FIN   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 0.689s   + 0.970s   + 1.469s
11   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Renault F1 Team   + 0.973s   + 1.017s   
12   Alexander Albon   THA   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 1.095s   + 1.139s   
13   Daniil Kvyat   RUS   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 0.933s   + 1.144s   
14   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 1.077s   + 1.256s   
15   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 0.305s   + 1.533s   
16   George Russell   GBR   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 1.214s       
17   Sergio Perez   MEX   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 1.292s       
18   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Renault F1 Team   + 1.440s       
19   Lance Stroll   CAN   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 1.725s       
20   Robert Kubica   POL   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 2.507s

This is great for Honda cant remember when they took last time pole position.

I don't think they don't look as nice. They are just different.
No, not as fast but very quiet. Which helps, and *I* think it will help generate more interest. It's tough to convince a bunch of non motorsport people to have a race on their streets. It blocks traffic, and causes other issues. Not to mention the noise. You can hear them across the city. With the electric car & bike races you dog can be asleep in your front window as they drive by and it might not wake up. That helps the sport.
Yes it's a bit of an exaggeration but it does get the people nearby off your back when you want to do it.

-Dave

MotoGP qualifying result for BRNO track in Czech

POS   RIDER   NAT   TEAM   TIME/DIFF   LAP   MAX
1   Marc Marquez   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   2'2.753s   7/7   304k
2   Jack Miller   AUS   Pramac Ducati (GP19)   +2.524s   6/7   303k
3   Johann Zarco   FRA   Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16)   +2.598s   2/6   299k
4   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Mission Winnow Ducati (GP19)   +2.837s   5/6   299k
5   Pol Espargaro   SPA   Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16)   +2.957s   5/6   302k
6   Alex Rins   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   +3.419s   2/6   299k
7   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +3.480s   7/7   291k
8   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Mission Winnow Ducati (GP19)   +3.704s   3/7   302k
9   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +3.873s   2/6   297k
10   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)*   +3.895s   2/7   294k
11   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +4.370s   3/7   298k
12   Franco Morbidelli   ITA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +6.651s   2/5   284k                   
13   Takaaki Nakagami   JPN   LCR Honda (RC213V)   2'5.265s   6/7   296k
14   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Pramac Ducati (GP18)*   2'5.286s   7/7   301k
15   Sylvain Guintoli   FRA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   2'5.551s   6/7   298k
16   Miguel Oliveira   POR   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)*   2'5.763s   7/7   298k
17   Stefan Bradl   GER   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   2'5.974s   5/7   298k
18   Aleix Espargaro   SPA   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   2'6.284s   6/6   300k
19   Joan Mir   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)*   2'6.554s   2/7   297k
20   Karel Abraham   CZE   Reale Avintia Ducati (GP18)   2'6.898s   7/7   296k
21   Hafizh Syahrin   MAL   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)   2'7.155s   6/6   297k
22   Tito Rabat   SPA   Reale Avintia Ducati (GP18)   2'7.315s   6/7   294k
23   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   2'7.923s   3/6   298k

Big risk and big payout for Marquez with slick on rain track.

Pole position for Verstappen.

Mercedes 2nd and 3rd, this will be a super boring race if the rain will not coming, here is almost impossible to overtake.

They should delete this race from the schedule.

Even if we have rain Mercedes are the best cars on the track and they would be again the favorites for winning the 1st and 2nd place in hungaroring!

I hope there is rain again this weekend in Hungaroring as it will make the race a lot more beautiful to watch.The Championship may become open again if Mercedes fail this time too.I think though that they will be driving with more caution this time if rain really hits the track.

Thats the main problem with rain racing that can make it a write off or an extreme combination of a track like monaco and heavy rain can make the race into a clown car pile up quite easily.   But I love the unexpected challenges they must overcome with an amount of rain the tires can cope with and still find grip and visibility, anything that shakes up the order and demands immediate skill to win is a welcome factor to the race.

Its real racing and theres increasingly electric cars in use so theres going to be electric car racing but do they deserve a separate field and to call it F1 I'm not sure without being the best that's exactly correct.   If its 'too perfect' in its race then it wont succeed, thats the problem electric has of being monotone but I'm sure they can keep it open enough to be exciting.   I still imagine conventional F1 to be the best overall for its challenges.

@DaveF. How much more boring is it than formula 1 hehehe?

I watched it before. It is good to see some of the former formula 1 drivers in there, however the cars do not look as nice and they are not that fast. But include it if you want.

Would anyone want to include next years Formula-E in this thread?
Yeah, I know some people think electric racing is not real racing.

Since I'm a New Yorker, I saw last years and this years race in Brooklyn. Really enjoyed it.

-Dave