Topic: MPOE-PR Perma-Banned after warning, Temp Ban more appropriate? - page 3. (Read 8505 times)

Strange but I would like Mircea still be around as the account has been right often even if she can be quite the hot button but just need to read the mpex threads to see useful contributions, as it acts as an archive to all the scams the forum has experienced.

Flaming a new security also has its merits when they really do end up sketchy in the end, I've noted it in more than a few securities threads that turned out to be spot on.

But lol

This will be the last month of MPOE-PR salary. The Bitcointalk forum moderators finally took exception to her public naming and shaming of their favourite scams, and banned her. I suppose in a sense this is best for all those involved.

http://trilema.com/2014/hitler-mp/#comment-98836 (^_^)


Anyways can someone point me to the correct mod log so I can read through it ?
https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php

so true. Also, http://trilema.com/2013/because-most-people-are-idiots-in-spite-of-never-manning-up-and-admitting-to-it/
just love how delusional some people are. 

MPOE-PR was so negative and condescending all the time. Glad she is gone.

With that being said, was she really in a porno? Links?

She was an asshole, but she wasn't bad looking.

I sometimes found his posts amusing

oh well

Well shit, thanks for letting me know

theymos relented?

I would prove you wrong, but I don't really care what you think. When I'm laying on my deathbed one of my regrets will not be "I wish I spent more time proving random dude #302867 on the internet wrong". Which is why I don't participate in these sorts of threads anymore, or if I do it's just a post or two to make a point. The trolls are doing harm by hiding real accusations beneath tons of garbage that people won't bother to sift through. But think what you want, I don't care.

Though there is this.

Also for the record, it isn't a permaban.

It's like this:
Shills and lunatics singing Danny's praises are not considered spam, no matter how asinine their comments get.
Those who try to warn the rubes in Neo thread are called trolls and spammers, their posts are deleted, and finally they are banned.  This astroturfing makes the scam appear credible to the suckers.  So yeah, you are responsible for people getting taken by Danny.  Through malice or plain incompetence, but you are not without guilt.

Correlation does not equal causation. If I post that Area 51 is real, and there is a government coverup, start trolling/spamming over it, then get banned, I'm pretty sure there would be at least a dozen people who would be convinced I was banned because I was trying to expose the truth.

What about this?


04-01-2014, 02:46 PM #30
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Just not on those days... meaning you'd have 1 less entry into the contest when we run the random drawing. Each day is a separate ticket to enter in the raffle basically.


Someone gets people to abuse the trust rating system each day with 6 entries. Multiplied by the number of people participating each day times the number of people responding each day to the negative posts? This is spam. Why wouldn't the people posting these daily be BANNED? And the person who started it be banned form the forums? Interesting.

I was threatened with a permanent ban for "bumping" too many times even when there were no rules posted on the subject, and EVERYONE was doing it to the point that if you didn't do it too, your threads didn't get seen. I had already confirmed with another mod the appropriate amount of bumps as the unwritten rule, and then gladly limited myself to this. Regardless of my compliance for several days I was banned retroactively without warning, then they posted rules.

I was then banned for "off topic" posts for asking why only people bashing "Atlas" could post in one of the countless Atlas bashing threads run by the moderators. My post was removed, I received no warning and was banned with no way to fulfill orders from previously paid customers waiting for goods, and me with no shipping info available. I posted again about my post removal in the thread and I was threatened with a permanent ban for "trolling" shortly after this. The point of this is that "I disagree" is some times confused with "off topic" or "trolling". Bias and frivolous bans only cause more instability in the community and drive away otherwise dedicated users.  I would really hate to see a return to those dark days of this forum. The last thing we need now is more infighting.

You're half right.

wtg now those will easily be banned too. 

The db probably has your ip logged, or some other identifier... 

IMAO don't unban! I can't believe this forum made this wonderful decision!

I'll miss you Goaty Goat, don't forget to write me 

Or steam chat works too 

In what way are the staff do you think the staff are involved?

Usually the best way to fix issues like this is to suggest solutions instead of just throwing around accusations. It seems like lots of people here enjoy pointing out what they think are problems with this forum but don't offer any viable solutions that would fix them.

If people think moderators are deleting scam accusations, then why don't we have more accountability for the actions of moderators?
Perhaps a log of mod actions be visible and posts/threads that are deleted be accessible via this log for a brief amount of time after they are deleted. Then you can easily see what exactly the mods are up to and instead of thinking they are deleting scam accusations you will be able to quite easily prove it.

A useful tip: the website bitcointa.lk regularly crawls bitcointalk.org and has an archive of deleted posts so you can use this to see the posts people delete, including moderators. If they are indeed aiding scammers by deleting scam accusations they are doing a bad job as the scam accusations subforum is very lightly moderated.

Another common accusation is that Theymos is aiding scammers by allowing them to purchase advertising. How do you think he should solve this problem?
Should he ask all advertisers for Photo ID?
Should he then submit all ID scans to Law Enforcement? if not what happens if he is compelled by law to hand them over?
Should he hire private investigators to background check each and every potential advertiser?
Should he personally decide which ads he wants to display, and then be accused by people of censorship or being biased for or against certain advertisers?

You also touched on the staff being anonymous, I don't think thats the case. It seems to me that the moderators are not required to prove their identity nor are they required to publicly post it. They may or may not be anonymous and it is certainly possible to find out who a number of them are. I'm unaware of any forums that require volunteer moderators to prove their real identity or have it publicly accessible. I can't see why people have issue with this because knowing who they are doesn't change anything, they could still be "deeply involved with scams". Many scammers in the Bitcoin community are known yet remain unpunished. Many mexican drug lords are not only known but internationally famous yet still remain free. Knowing someones identity does not make that person more trustworthy.

I would also like to point out, if the moderators are deeply involved in scams then why aren't they deleting the hundreds of posts such as yours that accuse them of it? I find it quite strange you accuse the staff of these things yet they allow you to post it. Try accusing the mods of any other 100,000+ member internet forum of aiding scammers, I can almost guarantee you that the post will be deleted and you will likely be banned.

Time and reader's discretion might apply to the second part, but...

The part where a concern was willing to offer a paid PR representative to present their positions on this forums for 25 months was a rather big deal, in a positive way. They highlighted the large scams: Pirate, GLBSE, LabCoin, Vircurex, and others. Most recently they highlighted NeoBee as almost inevitably a scam. The only person I've seen with a better efficacy at predicting scams might have been Kakobrekla, but he's been banned for a while now because he critiqued the Cognitive mining scam.

A well placed "Fuck You" is indeed the most professional speech possible in situations where:


happens.

When few people care to criticize scams and their posts start disappearing because "butthurt" or "trolling" before events can play out, the reasonable conclusion is that people with control over the content that survives on this forum are more concerned about their sphincter's lack of lubrication when they get called out and fucked than they are about letting a discussion stand long enough to get tested. Pirateat40 and Nefario still have their posts here.
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MPOE is/was the only account on my ignore list.  Now I can remove her and be even more open minded!   

What is your achievement on this thread? To complain (cry) about all the staff being scammers?