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Any more info on this? What type of ATM is this? Can you do in & out? Travelling to Europe and would be ideal to just exchange my euros back into BTC when I leave.
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a few weeks ago I read about a Dutch city where a whole street of vendors introduced BTC payment option.
Anyone knows if this was in Amsterdam or in another Dutch town?

I read about those over in the press section. Forgot what they were calling them though,.
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a few weeks ago I read about a Dutch city where a whole street of vendors introduced BTC payment option.
Anyone knows if this was in Amsterdam or in another Dutch town?
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Keep it dense, yeah?
Amsterdams a pretty cool place. I look forward to going there and spending some coins. Hopfully some of the coffeeshops will accept them too.

I would have expected the independent coffee shops to have been the most inclined to accept Bitcoin payments, unless it causes them a legal headache, of course.
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Amsterdams a pretty cool place. I look forward to going there and spending some coins. Hopfully some of the coffeeshops will accept them too.
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Are there many shops in amsterdam that accept bitcoin yet?

relatively, yes. absolutely, no.

The Netherlands has, compared to other countries in the world, quite a lot of shops that accept bitcoin, but it's still not anywhere near mass adoption.

I'm still waiting for the first supermarket chain to adopt it. I have contacted one of the largest chains around December, but they never acted on it, sadly.

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Nice, although the Netherlands hardly needed a way to obtain bitcoin. It's probably in the top 3 of easiest places in the world to obtain bitcoin.
Anyone know the fees on this thing?
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I live near Amsterdam and the answer is no. occasional head shop yes maybe
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Surfbort.
Are there many shops in amsterdam that accept bitcoin yet?
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We manage yesterday to get 4 minutes prime time on dutch tv, to tell about atm and promote bitcoin:

http://www.uitzendinggemist.nl/afleveringen/1414701

Difficult to explain this in four minutes especially to the target audience of Kassa (general consumers). I think he/you did fine although I'm always disappointed if the following are not discussed:

1) The paper wallets you showed is just a representation and the private key is the lock. With it, ANYONE can take your money (use the vault + lock metaphor)
2) She asked about who guarantees Bitcoin. You could have told her that no-one does because no single entity is behind it (and you avoided saying anything negative about banks Tongue)
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Keep it dense, yeah?
I'm heading to Amsterdam in July, I may have to pay a visit and see how it works. I'm guessing that there are some local businesses that accept BTC as payment?
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i 100% agree with you, but centralizing merchant adoption around bitpay and coinbase (any others?) is not a solution to the problem, it is just building a problem on top of a problem. Real merchant adoption of bitcoin can't happen until the price is more stable, which will probably be when people stop using Bitcoin as a store of value( i am guilty of this) and actually as a method of transacting online.


and guys we have to realize that there will be not much transactions this year at bitcoin accepting cafes or restaurants, maybe few people a months, so we are talking 100.00 maybe 200.00 euro, if there is bitcoin conferance in the city maybe more. So there is not so much risk for this small bussines to accepted and take a small risk or maybe big reward. coinbase and bitpay are concentrating on the big fishes, they are not much interested in small merchants, they just made a website for them and they charge 1% transaction fee for useing it, i think they should be free solution to this
Well, with 1% fee it's still cheaper than the card networks. However I understand that some businesses (like cafés) are get paid mainly in cash, where they don't have to pay any transaction fees - so it might seem like they're losing money.

But when you look at the problem, you'll notice accepting Bitcoin, even with a 1% fee, will drive customers to your business (maybe not many yet, but definitely some) which it would never had otherwise had - so that 1% is basically nothing compared to not having had those sales to start with.

You're being overly simplistic if you say cash does not apply fees.

Indeed if you accept cash there's no company who will charge fees on the cash, however, if you deposit the cash at the bank you will need to pay a high price (banks are not happy with cash transactions), and the cash needs to be transported securily (not cheap either), and on top of that cash is a hassle (you need to have plenty of change) and a risk (the more cash you have in your store, to more likely it is you will get robbed).

So with all those disadvantages of cash, I doubt they will see a 1% fee as a disadvantage.
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i 100% agree with you, but centralizing merchant adoption around bitpay and coinbase (any others?) is not a solution to the problem, it is just building a problem on top of a problem. Real merchant adoption of bitcoin can't happen until the price is more stable, which will probably be when people stop using Bitcoin as a store of value( i am guilty of this) and actually as a method of transacting online.

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Chaumy is geting more and more happy bitcoin owners.

Tomorrow (25.05.2014) we will have mini meetup in Hofje van Wijs at 19.30.
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We manage yesterday to get 4 minutes prime time on dutch tv, to tell about atm and promote bitcoin:

http://www.uitzendinggemist.nl/afleveringen/1414701
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Yesterday 25 entusiast bitcoin users visit CHAUMY, Amsterdam is trying bitcoin
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http://www.youtube.com/embed/UyTMAAQEap8

We want a name for our machine any sugestion?

Machine is called CHAUMY  (David Chaum)

CHAUMY THE CASHFEEDER

or

CHAUMY THE BANK DESTROYER

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So the Russia banned bitcoin is just rumors or false information?  Huh

Define 'banned'. I don't think any country have 'banned' it outright but some have put certain restrictions on it or from banks / businesses dealing with it. There's a lot of misinformation and uncertainty about too.
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Since mid-January, various arms of the Russian government have made moves designed to deter the use of Bitcoin and other virtual currency. On January 15, 2014, Russian legislators proposed three anti-terrorist amendments that impose regulations that would impose strict limits of 1000 RUR (30 USD) per day per person and 15000 RUR (450 USD) per month on anonymous “electronic” money transfers.[1] The proposed laws couple vague definitions of "anonymous" and "electronic" which potentially expose Bitcoin exchanges and users who exceed the limits to punishments of large fines and/or imprisonment.[2] On January 27, the Central Bank of Russia warned that businesses involved with Bitcoin would potentially be considered involved in money laundering or terrorism financing.[3] And finally, on February 6, the Prosecutor General's office appears to have said that Bitcoins and virtual currency are not legal tender, and thus, can not be used by citizens and legal persons in Russia.[4] This is a stark departure from the Russia of 2013, which was very bullish on ventures that provide technology-enabled transfers. But, virtual currency is not without Russian advocates. On January 24, 2014, Sberbank chief, Herman Gref, signaled opposition to restrictions on virtual currencies - calling them a "colossal step backward."[5] Perhaps more voices like this will temper the response to Bitcoins in the near future.
That is what I meant. Restrictions are there, not banned completely.
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We need more of these around europe, especially near russia.
In Russia and the countries around there, people are more used to these kind of kiosks. So I guess they would be successful.
Isn't Bitcoin kind of banned in Russia?

no it's not banned, its like banning untouchables idea

So the Russia banned bitcoin is just rumors or false information?  Huh

Define 'banned'. I don't think any country have 'banned' it outright but some have put certain restrictions on it or from banks / businesses dealing with it. There's a lot of misinformation and uncertainty about too.
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Nice, although the Netherlands hardly needed a way to obtain bitcoin. It's probably in the top 3 of easiest places in the world to obtain bitcoin.
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