I'm sure DHS will eventually seize Camp BX's Dwolla account, too, though…
Unlikely, CampBX is now a registered MSB.
Topic: Mt. Gox Dwolla account frozen by DHS (Read 60418 times)
What's a "registered MSB"?
You need to use international bank transfer now to get funds from Gox to the US. It's about $20 per transfer.
I pulled all my BTC out of Mt. Gox and traded on Camp BX instead. Camp BX seems much better, and it supports Dwolla, too. (I'm sure DHS will eventually seize Camp BX's Dwolla account, too, though…)Unlikely, CampBX is now a registered MSB.
You need to use international bank transfer now to get funds from Gox to the US. It's about $20 per transfer.
I pulled all my BTC out of Mt. Gox and traded on Camp BX instead. Camp BX seems much better, and it supports Dwolla, too. (I'm sure DHS will eventually seize Camp BX's Dwolla account, too, though…) 
I don't get any message about Dwolla being frozen, but for the past week, when I've attempt to transfer from Mt. Gox to Dwolla, the transaction will go through, I'll receive an email from Mt. Gox with a transaction ID #, but about 10 min. later I seed the funds I was trying to transfer appear again in my Mt. Gox account. It looks like it's still frozen by the DHS…
You need to use international bank transfer now to get funds from Gox to the US. It's about $20 per transfer.
I've just withdrawn all my funds (BTC and USD) from Gox ,after the Liberty Reserve charges filed today it can't be much longer before the Gox domain is seized as well (at least their .com address).
Here's Dwolla's warrant.
Should've used coinbase or campbx... 
I don't get any message about Dwolla being frozen, but for the past week, when I've attempt to transfer from Mt. Gox to Dwolla, the transaction will go through, I'll receive an email from Mt. Gox with a transaction ID #, but about 10 min. later I seed the funds I was trying to transfer appear again in my Mt. Gox account. It looks like it's still frozen by the DHS…
iirc its not frozen, its been seized.
I don't get any message about Dwolla being frozen, but for the past week, when I've attempt to transfer from Mt. Gox to Dwolla, the transaction will go through, I'll receive an email from Mt. Gox with a transaction ID #, but about 10 min. later I seed the funds I was trying to transfer appear again in my Mt. Gox account. It looks like it's still frozen by the DHS…
DHS are a bunch of fuckturd Nazis. Any idea how much they stole?
I'm going to say this in public for the simple reason that I'm kind of afraid to:
Yes. Fuckturd Nazis. I'm old enough to remember the Reagan years, and I've seen many random acts of fascism, but this is the only time I've ever been stone cold robbed by the federal government. What does that mean? I don't think we're marching toward total dictatorship any faster than we have been since the 18th century. But I do think that this DHS thing is a really really bad idea. Too much power. Too vague a mandate. It's very name sets of alarm bells, and it's actions set off more.
Yeah, it was a random act of fascism.
Or not. It's only been two years of pointing out that US bitcoin exchanges clearly fall within the bounds of the laws FinCEN is associated with. The whole world knew dealing with US citizens required some sort of money transmitter licensing -- that was the entire point of the CoinLab/MtGox deal ("MtGox wants 100% out of US and Canada").
The USG is gonna regulate the USD, and it's within their rights to do so.
If you dislike this... don't use USD.
I don't and never will use US$. I stand by my description of the DHS as a bunch of fuckturd Nazis, and not just for the reason mentioned.
DHS are a bunch of fuckturd Nazis. Any idea how much they stole?
I'm going to say this in public for the simple reason that I'm kind of afraid to:
Yes. Fuckturd Nazis. I'm old enough to remember the Reagan years, and I've seen many random acts of fascism, but this is the only time I've ever been stone cold robbed by the federal government. What does that mean? I don't think we're marching toward total dictatorship any faster than we have been since the 18th century. But I do think that this DHS thing is a really really bad idea. Too much power. Too vague a mandate. It's very name sets of alarm bells, and it's actions set off more.
Yeah, it was a random act of fascism.
Or not. It's only been two years of pointing out that US bitcoin exchanges clearly fall within the bounds of the laws FinCEN is associated with. The whole world knew dealing with US citizens required some sort of money transmitter licensing -- that was the entire point of the CoinLab/MtGox deal ("MtGox wants 100% out of US and Canada").
The USG is gonna regulate the USD, and it's within their rights to do so.
If you dislike this... don't use USD.
DHS are a bunch of fuckturd Nazis. Any idea how much they stole?
I'm going to say this in public for the simple reason that I'm kind of afraid to:
Yes. Fuckturd Nazis. I'm old enough to remember the Reagan years, and I've seen many random acts of fascism, but this is the only time I've ever been stone cold robbed by the federal government. What does that mean? I don't think we're marching toward total dictatorship any faster than we have been since the 18th century. But I do think that this DHS thing is a really really bad idea. Too much power. Too vague a mandate. It's very name sets of alarm bells, and it's actions set off more.
BTC withdrawals appear to not be working at Mt. Gox either. Decided to get out of Mt. Gox until this blows over...looks like I have no way to do that at the moment...
Same here. I can't get my meagre holdings out of mt.gox and they want my dox. I'm guessing I should write my bitcoins off.
Anyone have any more information about this?
I guess the problem is their intermediary. MT Gox is a japanese company and operates in the US. It does not need to have any US licence whatsoever.
While technically true, ultimately, MtGox is trading USG-controlled USD. USG is going to regulate USD gateways (and they are well within their rights to do so). Anybody gatewaying USD will ultimately be bound by US laws.
Within US borders, yes. You don't think the chinese government, which owns a ton of USD gateways, is just going to be dictated terms, right?
I guess the problem is their intermediary. MT Gox is a japanese company and operates in the US. It does not need to have any US licence whatsoever.
While technically true, ultimately, MtGox is trading USG-controlled USD. USG is going to regulate USD gateways (and they are well within their rights to do so). Anybody gatewaying USD will ultimately be bound by US laws.
On what authority can the dept of homeland security do this?
Terrorism. That's what they'll claim when they finally make a statement about this (If they ever do).
This Arstechnica article sheds more light on the reason.
Apparently the feds consider MtGox to be a "money transmitter" without a license.
Recall the recent flap about regulating the conversion of BTC to USD. This is the first fallout from it.
I guess the problem is their intermediary. MT Gox is a japanese company and operates in the US. It does not need to have any US licence whatsoever.
If they are going to exchange US currency with people in the US (i.e. doing business within the US) then they do. Even if they are headquarted in Japan, by exchanging currency with the CI in maryland, they have also done business in maryland (and everywhere else in the USA by availing themselves there).
DHS are a bunch of fuckturd Nazis. Any idea how much they stole?
On what authority can the dept of homeland security do this?
Terrorism. That's what they'll claim when they finally make a statement about this (If they ever do).
This Arstechnica article sheds more light on the reason.
Apparently the feds consider MtGox to be a "money transmitter" without a license.
Recall the recent flap about regulating the conversion of BTC to USD. This is the first fallout from it.
I guess the problem is their intermediary. MT Gox is a japanese company and operates in the US. It does not need to have any US licence whatsoever.
mt.gox does appear to be not (or really bad) reachable at all for a few hours now (502)..
BTC withdrawals appear to not be working at Mt. Gox either. Decided to get out of Mt. Gox until this blows over...looks like I have no way to do that at the moment...
Dwolla said to contact Gox. Some folks here have reported getting Gox to reverse the transfer and getting the funds back in Gox at least.
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