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according to tux SEPA transfers are still working, albeit delayed
Topic: MT GOX Sepa still not working (Read 2943 times)
Actually, we are processing all the SEPA withdraws right now.
We'll re-open deposits next week depending on appeal court decision.
We'll re-open deposits next week depending on appeal court decision.
Why didn't you try banks in other countries in the EURO zone, many of which have a more reasonably relaxed attitude, and won't close your account just because they don't understand your business? Estonia, Slovakia now have the EURO so should have EUR-wide SEPA transfers for free, I don't even expect Austrian banks to be so picky, see https://www.virwox.com/ they have an account in Austria in http://www.bankaustria.at/en/ and happily trade large amounts of Bitcoins.
Actually, we are processing all the SEPA withdraws right now.
We'll re-open deposits next week depending on appeal court decision.
We'll re-open deposits next week depending on appeal court decision.
still not working
And if you wanna sell MtGox USD for SEPA EUR (@ current ECB rate) I can help on that 
Great,
please provide MT Gox with a bank account, thanks.
I was more thinking in the terms of a bilateral OTC transaction. (i.e. I buy MtGox USD from you and pay you via my personal bank account via SEPA). My bank account is a private account, hence, it cannot be used for/from a company...
And if you wanna sell MtGox USD for SEPA EUR (@ current ECB rate) I can help on that
Great,
please provide MT Gox with a bank account, thanks.
And if you wanna sell MtGox USD for SEPA EUR (@ current ECB rate) I can help on that
Please create an option to cancel pending bank transfers, thanks.
+1That would be great to have anyway!
If you email Gox they will cancel a SEPA bank transfer. I did that a while ago.
Please create an option to cancel pending bank transfers, thanks.
+1That would be great to have anyway!
"Withdraws will not be executed until we get the new EUR bank account, tentative August 5th."
"We have filed on August 8th, had a reply on August 9th, and ruling will happen on August 11th, most likely forcing the bank to follow the law"
So?
This is getting quite annyoing
, if you are unable to procure a suited bank account for SEPA transfers please let us know. I dont want to create a Paxum account but if there is no other option i will do so.
Some people are waiting around a month already.....
Please create an option to cancel pending bank transfers, thanks.
"We have filed on August 8th, had a reply on August 9th, and ruling will happen on August 11th, most likely forcing the bank to follow the law"
So?
This is getting quite annyoing
, if you are unable to procure a suited bank account for SEPA transfers please let us know. I dont want to create a Paxum account but if there is no other option i will do so.Some people are waiting around a month already.....
Please create an option to cancel pending bank transfers, thanks.
Just a note, be REALLY careful when accepting wire transfers and/or sepa transfers, as many of those are fraudulent (that's our main issue with banks in Europe right now, especially in France where banks are f****** r******* and have no clue to what kind of fraud exist in this world).
I went through the SEPA documentation and consulted my bank. I don't see how you could actually fraud with SEPA transfers. If it's sent, it's sent. How can you possibly claim it back? As long as IBAN/BIC were correct I don't see how you could potentially get it back once it arrived at the seller's account. To my understanding, you are not liable, if your customer's account was stolen/hacked whatsoever.
Could you please elaborate on this, as I'm accepting SEPA per default? (Feel free to PM if you don't want to bring people on bad ideas *g*)
Thanks,
sonba
You could also enter the account numbers of someone you dislike and send them small amounts. at least here in germany fees can apply for foreign originated SEPA-transfers and the customer has to pay them. even if the amount is smaller than the fees
*lol* But that would be purely destructive. The "attacker" would not gain anything out of this. Plus: I think (or hope) that you should be able to not accept a transfer and give it back instead.
Just a note, be REALLY careful when accepting wire transfers and/or sepa transfers, as many of those are fraudulent (that's our main issue with banks in Europe right now, especially in France where banks are f****** r******* and have no clue to what kind of fraud exist in this world).
I went through the SEPA documentation and consulted my bank. I don't see how you could actually fraud with SEPA transfers. If it's sent, it's sent. How can you possibly claim it back? As long as IBAN/BIC were correct I don't see how you could potentially get it back once it arrived at the seller's account. To my understanding, you are not liable, if your customer's account was stolen/hacked whatsoever.
Could you please elaborate on this, as I'm accepting SEPA per default? (Feel free to PM if you don't want to bring people on bad ideas *g*)
Thanks,
sonba
You could also enter the account numbers of someone you dislike and send them small amounts. at least here in germany fees can apply for foreign originated SEPA-transfers and the customer has to pay them. even if the amount is smaller than the fees
Right now we are using the fact that legally we cannot have no bank account in France as a company (the French laws says we are allowed to have a bank account, the French "central bank" - Banque de France - assigned us a bank, but that bank refused to create the account, so we are assigning it in front of a judge. We have filed on August 8th, had a reply on August 9th, and ruling will happen on August 11th, most likely forcing the bank to follow the law).
This is the most fucked up account opening I ever heard of. I also never hard a cental bank assining a bank in the first place. Can you point me to some site with those regulations, just out of pure interest? This sounds so retarded from a central point it is really something i want to read up on.
Coming from germany it seems to me whenever I hear from other countries their european bnking systems (dont even get me started on the US) are 3rd world grade.
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The transaction wont be reversed per-se, but you will lose any euros you recieved due to confiscation (even if you are innocent), as well as any goods or services you sent out in return.
It depends on a lot of things. In some cases your bank is forced to reverse the transaction.
Also most of the fraudulent funds we have received so far are in the range of 200~600 euro, mostly because of our AML conditions which limit the maximum volume of exchanged funds.
Thanks, Jack. Ok, so it's mostly targeting at companies (e.g. wiring 10k EUR to MtGox). Doesn't look like the chance to be scammed as an individual is high. Unless you have a deal for 10k EUR ongoing. But then - most of those deals I've seen on the forum were scam anyways
Just a note, be REALLY careful when accepting wire transfers and/or sepa transfers, as many of those are fraudulent (that's our main issue with banks in Europe right now, especially in France where banks are f****** r******* and have no clue to what kind of fraud exist in this world).
I went through the SEPA documentation and consulted my bank. I don't see how you could actually fraud with SEPA transfers. If it's sent, it's sent. How can you possibly claim it back? As long as IBAN/BIC were correct I don't see how you could potentially get it back once it arrived at the seller's account. To my understanding, you are not liable, if your customer's account was stolen/hacked whatsoever.
Could you please elaborate on this, as I'm accepting SEPA per default? (Feel free to PM if you don't want to bring people on bad ideas *g*)
Thanks,
sonba
Professional criminals can use stolen EU consumer bank accounts & fund it with illegal cash from another foreign account, then rapidly transfer it to a third party which sends out goods.
By the time authorities catch up & freeze the account for money laundering , it's too late.
All they have is a link to you recieving money as an "unwilling mule", which can still be punishable in some countries and a headache to explain to the police.
The transaction wont be reversed per-se, but you will lose any euros you recieved due to confiscation (even if you are innocent), as well as any goods or services you sent out in return.
This is a rare scenario but it exists. The more valuable items you sell (such as a car or house) the bigger your risk becomes.
Some cautious people will sell big property only for physical cash in the presence of a lawyer or judge who can verify the transaction on the spot.
There are other, difficult methods and legal loopholes for reversing a SEPA wire transfer but I will not post those here.
Just a note, be REALLY careful when accepting wire transfers and/or sepa transfers, as many of those are fraudulent (that's our main issue with banks in Europe right now, especially in France where banks are f****** r******* and have no clue to what kind of fraud exist in this world).
I went through the SEPA documentation and consulted my bank. I don't see how you could actually fraud with SEPA transfers. If it's sent, it's sent. How can you possibly claim it back? As long as IBAN/BIC were correct I don't see how you could potentially get it back once it arrived at the seller's account. To my understanding, you are not liable, if your customer's account was stolen/hacked whatsoever.
Could you please elaborate on this, as I'm accepting SEPA per default? (Feel free to PM if you don't want to bring people on bad ideas *g*)
Thanks,
sonba
Thanks for update, good to hear about progress... Looking forward SEPA transfers soon :-).
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f****** r*******
fucking retarded?
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