Topic: Multi bit (Read 329 times)

Great and detailed research you performed there. Will surely help.

What an unfortunate turn of events. I told OP in my previous post to check on a block explorer if the addresses that are supposed to hold the coins still have those +5 bitcoins. Because if not and they were moved in a transaction that OP never carried out, no recovery method is going to help him.

@DELTECHE
Did you at any point have access to this wallet in the past?
Were you the one who downloaded and installed the wallet, and transferred the coins there?
Or was it given to you or did you purchase it?

Yes. This is what I said here:


The issue is that Electrum adds /0/0 on to the end of whatever derivation path you choose, whereas Ian Coleman adds /0 on to the end, so you cannot copy extended keys between them without accounting for this.

It sounds like if OP has tried putting his seed phrase in to this scam wallet, though, then his coins will already be lost.

Wow...  
Then how did OP recover the addresses/private keys with IanColeman bip39 tool?!
..and OP didn't check any of those (alleged) addresses on a block explorer to see it actually has funds or not?!

This is very confusing to me... I can only assume it is a derivation path issue (or possibly a script type issue? ). If you have the same key + same derivation path (and script type), then you should be getting the same addresses.


However, I think the issue might be because DELTECHE is trying to use the xprv... when you use Master Private Keys (xprv) with Electrum, it doesn't give you the ability to select the derivation path.

In a quick test I just did... starting with an 18 word BIP39 seed:

This generates the following addresses in Electrum (using 'BIP39 seed' option, legacy addresses and derivation path m/0'):





Now, if I look at Ian Coleman... same 18 word seed, using BIP32 tab + MultiBit HD from the "client" options:



We can see the exact same addresses:

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However, if you try and take the "BIP32 Root Key" from Ian Coleman:



That generates this in Electrum:

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And the "BIP32 Extended Private Key" from Ian Coleman:



Generates this in Electrum:

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Essentially... if you want to take the xprv for a MultiBitHD seed from Ian Coleman... and make it work in Electrum... you need to do this:

Set the "BIP32" tab, to use a "custom" client... and set the derivation path to m/0'



Then take the "BIP32 Extended Private Key":



Paste that into the "Standard Wallet" -> "Use a master key" option in Electrum:


And that will generate the same addresses as the seed does:

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Or just do it the stupidly easy way... and use the seed + 'BIP39 seed' option + Legacy + m/0' derivation path directly in Electrum and save yourself a lot of time and bother

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Ok, firstly... please forgive the double posting, but I feel like this very important information might get lost in my very long previous post!


For better or worse, I contacted the user via Telegram... mainly just to let them know I had posted my big long post regarding seeds/xprvs and MultiBit HD... and they sent me a screenshot that revealed the user is actually using some very dodgy looking "MultiBit Core"... (https: //multibitwallet . org/index.php ) a complete scam that looks like a clone of the old "bitsblock . io" scam... creating a wallet that looks like Bitcoin Core, but supposedly has an 18 word seed recovery system.

It has so many dodgy red flags tho... You sign up and get emailed your 18 word recovery phrase!!?!


Refer: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wrong-phrase-unable-to-decrypt-even-i-have-phrase-and-password-5230464 and https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53854675

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Does the recovered wallet show any transaction history in Electrum or is there none?
Are you absolutely sure that the coins are still there?
Do you know which addresses hold the coins? If you enter them in a block explorer such as https://blockstream.info/ or https://blockchair.com/, does it show you the correct balances?

If you did find the private keys of the wallet, like other users told you, import them into Electrum. Follow this[1] guide to know how to do it.
Since English is not your native language, I also suggest that you browse that guide using Google Translator service, which you can see here[2]. Just select your native language and it'll be probably easier for you to understand and follow.

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[1]https://bitcoinelectrum.com/importing-your-private-keys-into-electrum/
[2]https://bitcoinelectrum-com.translate.goog/importing-your-private-keys-into-electrum/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB

I think that the easiest way is what o_e_l_e_o said: if you managed to obtain the correct addresses, just import the corresponding private keys and you're good for start. You'd need only the private keys for the addresses you have funds on.

And if it's indeed such big money there, you should consider buying a hardware wallet and sending your coins to addresses generated by the hardware wallet.

It starts with 1 at addresses on electrum and starts with 1 at addresses on the site

So you enter your seed phrase in to Ian Coleman, select "MultiBit HD", and it generates the correct addresses at the bottom of the page? If that's the case, then just copy the individual private keys for the addresses you are interested in and import them individually in to a brand new Electrum wallet. Seems like this is going to be the easiest thing to do since you can't work out the derivation path in Electrum correctly.

The BIP32 Extended Private Key generated from Ian Coleman with the MultiBit option selected is at m/0'/0, whereas Electrum needs to it to be at m/0'. If you wanted to import the Extended Private Key, then you need to change from "MultiBit" to "Custom derivation path", change the derivation path form m/0'/0 to m/0', and then import that new Extended Private Key to Electrum. But I would just copy the individual keys as I said above, since the different derivation paths seem to be causing you confusion.

First of all, if anyone is wondering if there are 5 bitcoins, I left my telegram and watsam number in the messages above. it continues and stops by itself. now I did everything properly as in the instructions but the addresses do not match my wallet is multibit core but I am multibit hd sec, can it be caused by it?(I tried using that web site to generate xprv BIP32 Extended Private Key. The addresses matched under the BIP32 tab using MultiBit option, but when I paste the key into Electrum to restore, it generates completely different addresses! I can go to Wallet > Master Public Key in Electrum, and the xpub key still matches the xpub key on the site, but they have different addresses entirely. )

This post was from before Electrum allowed you to specify a custom derivation path when importing a BIP39 seed phrase and only used m/44'/0'/0', which is different to what MultiBit uses. Now that you can specify what derivation path to use, if you enter m/0' in to Electrum as I explained above, it will recover the same addresses from MultiBit provided you have the correct seed phrase.

Indeed, if you follow the instructions on the other link you gave above to import the seed phrase in to Ian Coleman, and then choose MultiBit derivation path, it will derive addresses starting at m/0'/0/0, which is exactly the same derivation path and same address you will get when you follow my instructions to put the seed phrase directly in to Electrum and derive at m/0', as Electrum adds /0/0 to the end of whatever derivation path you specify.

You can test this yourself with any BIP39 seed phrase. The outcome is identical, but you can make the process both easier and safer by skipping the additional steps of using Ian Coleman and transferring individual private keys.

The possibilities here for why OP cannot recover his coins are that he is not following the instructions correctly, his Electrum is not synced, he has the wrong seed phrase, or he is mistaken about how many coins he owned. I do not think MultiBit ever provided the ability to extend a seed phrase with a passphrase, so it cannot be due to this.

I know people have had problems with the seed that was generated with MultiBit HD before when they tried to enter it in Electrum. I am referring to this post from @HCP from 2017, where the conclusion is that it is best to make a transaction directly from MultiBit HD to Electrum.

Of course, the OP can't do that, but it's weird that with everything he's already done there's no result, maybe Electrum isn't synchronized, or those 5 BTC do not exist at all...

Did it tell you "BIP39 (checksum: ok)" under the box where you type in your seed phrase, or did it tell you something else?

The next thing to do is go through the same process of entering your seed phrase and selecting "BIP39" in "Options", but on the next screen press the "Detect Existing Accounts" button and see if it finds anything.

Select beep39, select legacy and change derivation path to m/0'

  I did this correctly and even tried 2-3 more times '
continue I didn't encounter any problems but I guess it didn't pull the btc addresses correctly and my btc didn't show up

You should NOT do this! It's safe to assume anyone who sees your 18 words can and will instantly take your funds! As long as you don't compromise your wallet, you don't have to rush things. Take your time, learn to do it on your own, and don't take unnecessary risks!

We are trying to help you in the safest way possible. If you have a total stranger connect to your computer remotely, then you will almost certainly have your coins stolen. Don't do this.

Have you tried my instructions above? Import your seed phrase in to Electrum, select BIP39, select legacy, and change the derivation path to m/0' (and not m/0 as you said in your reply)?
What happens when you type in your seed phrase and select BIP39? Does it say "BIP39 (checksum: ok)", "BIP39 (checksum: failed)" or "BIP39 (unknown wordlist)"?

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In the interests of transparency, OP has now PMed me inviting me to talk to him on Telegram or WhatsApp, which I have obviously refused (mostly for his own safety but also because I do not use either of these platforms and have no intention of doing so). I say this because I don't think it is outside the realms of possibility that OP will start messaging random people his seed phrase. It goes without saying that he should not do this, but I have no intention of being held responsible for the outcomes if he does.

Please help me please. someone help me. Someone who understands this business can help me connect to my computer remotely or shoot me a video on how to do this job.

This doesn't sound like a cold wallet.
If it helps, search my Bitcoin recovery overview for the word "multibit". If you find a solution I haven't listed yet, please let me know.

It must be m/0' and not m/0 without the ' symbol. If you miss out this symbol it will generate completely different addresses.

I would strongly advise against giving out your phone number and asking people to contact you privately. Anyone who does is almost certainly trying to steal your coins. Anyone who can help you should do so on here publicly.

I tried everything you wrote above, I tried 2 methods, my seed is 18 sentences, I converted it to bıp32 and it gave me the product key, I entered the electroma with it, but it doesn't work, how do I add 20-200 product keys electruma

I applied the 2nd method m/0 I did it again it didn't work I'm in a difficult situation I really need to buy these bitcoins can someone who understands write me on watsap please can you write me on watsap 0541 297 10 29 or write DelTeChe on telegram and reach me