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sr. member
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July 03, 2013, 03:34:06 AM
#63
Mod,

Please close this thread. There is not much sense in further exploring someone's suffering.
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July 02, 2013, 05:34:03 PM
#62
Well, we apparently broke FinScammy, two days and a half since his last retarded post.

Maybe he's hanging out with dank in the psych ward.
legendary
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amarha
July 01, 2013, 03:45:52 PM
#61
Is this guy the new Dank or what?

Please don't be like Dank. Get help and take the medicine that's prescribed to you. (not weed)
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July 01, 2013, 07:59:07 AM
#60
You should probably read threads before discussing in them. All of this has been answered a billion times.
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July 01, 2013, 07:50:53 AM
#59

All accusations of blackmail aside,

Why should we put that aside? He said so himself. No one who's primarily concerned with justice would act this way. If he really cared he would have gone to the police, not demanded his stepfather form a charity, and come on here and make 2 fake charity threads. And concoct an accusation of murder with a giant "OR" and on the other side of that "OR" is the oh guess what... the charity he wants so badly.




Oh no, if this whole thing's a sham and he's just making up a wild story to scam other people then that certainly needs to be addressed. But if there really was a little boy who was killed by his stepfather who exploited the boy's peanut allergy in some nefarious scheme (I don't understand what the motive would be to do this), then the OP's credibility needs to be separated from the matter at hand because it is irrelevant. There is a child dead. That is what matters, and it should be looked into for the sake of ensuring justice for the child. Ensuring a would-be murderer and Karma Houdini doesn't get away with his crime doesn't mean we would have to contribute to a scammer, not by any means.

Is there any way to actually verify this at all? OP, police report perhaps?
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July 01, 2013, 07:37:21 AM
#58

All accusations of blackmail aside,

Why should we put that aside? He said so himself. No one who's primarily concerned with justice would act this way. If he really cared he would have gone to the police, not demanded his stepfather form a charity, and come on here and make 2 fake charity threads. And concoct an accusation of murder with a giant "OR" and on the other side of that "OR" is the oh guess what... the charity he wants so badly.

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July 01, 2013, 07:12:22 AM
#57
Realtalk: At this point you, OP, FinShaggy, should probably be looking for professional help to assist you in coping with the loss of your brother. The way you're going about it is self-destructive.

All accusations of blackmail aside, do you really think that pursuing justice in the death of a little boy is self destructive?

Please don't tell me you're one of those types who thinks that if he would just let go, move on and allow his brother's death to go unmarked that the world would be a better place and we could all hold hands and sing along. 'Cos that's a seriously unethical and self-destructive (yet surprisingly common) mentality.
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July 01, 2013, 02:36:48 AM
#56
Know what would totally make my day after I accidentally killed my son by being a moron?

If his stoner brother tried to blackmail me for a $100000 under threat of raising murder charges against me.

That would be great.

Caveat: OP should probably watch out he doesn't end up in diverse sacks of peanuts. I mean, if you're gonna be tried for murder anyway, at least make it worth it, know what I'm saying?

Realtalk: At this point you, OP, FinShaggy, should probably be looking for professional help to assist you in coping with the loss of your brother. The way you're going about it is self-destructive.
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July 01, 2013, 01:51:57 AM
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From a cursory glance at the situation, it looks like you might be able to file a civil wrongful death

This is exactly what everybody needs to tell the op.
hire a private investigator or lawyer for a civil suit

or both




THIS IS WHAT I SAID I NEED HELP DOING IN THE ORIGINAL POST


It's not difficult finding a private investigator or a lawyer for that matter.

Universities will sometimes provide free legal aid from their law schools (whether they're any good, I honestly don't know).

Though you should go to the police ASAP, if not for any other reason to establish some kind of paper trail for *some* attempt at getting justice for your brother.

Also I agree with meowmeowbrowncow in that what you'd be looking for is to pursue a wrongful death suit, if you're willing to foot the bill out of principle of the thing.

There has to be SOME legal means to prove intent in the case of your stepfather. Perhaps recording a conversation in public if it's legal in your state and get him to blab about how he knew the kid was allergic to peanuts and gave them to him anyway would work, if you're good at the whole social engineering thing (or get someone else to talk to him and record it in public if that's legal where you are).

I had to go through something similar (though with circumstances a lot less serious than the death of a wee child Sad  ) and I wish you all the best in your pursuit.

sr. member
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June 30, 2013, 08:23:29 PM
#54
Edit:  As I'm eating honey roasted peanuts and staring straight at the label that states 'Do not give to children under 4 years of age.'


Immediately find the State's Attorney / DA for your region and ask to speak with a prosecutor.  The prosecutor will review the file - so you can be more prepared and understand what position the State is taking on this matter.


If the State chooses not to pursue criminal charges - it's unlikely you can get them to change their mind.


However, civil court is widely open for you to pursue - but at your own expense.  And the court costs would be outrageous.  In the end - a civil case like this a lawyer would be looking for any financial instrument or insurance to get cash out of when the case is won.  Or someone's assets.  But if there's no insurance and no assets to be gotten - then there's much less motivation for a lawyer to take a civil wrongful death case; a long case.


But, there is one exception - Renter's insurance.  If this is an apartment and there's renter's insurance on it there could be a coverage for 'Personal Liability.'  And, what I've seen typically, is personal liability limits are in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.  The problem is a Renter's Insurance claim cannot be executed against the insurance policy holder *if* the policy holder is injured.  But, if it's a minor - a baby - I seriously doubt that falls under the same classification and the policy may well be claimed against in this case - if the case is won.


(I went through an issue of somewhat similar circumstances, but less severe consequences.)

Vod
legendary
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June 30, 2013, 06:20:03 PM
#53
Intent or not, there was a murder committed the way I see it. The rest of the family sees an accident.

Let's be realistic  - you are the stoner - your mind is damaged and not able to process properly.

Your family, hopefully, is relatively sober and is better able to figure things out than you.

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amarha
June 30, 2013, 09:36:51 AM
#52
You are still failing to grasp how the legal system works despite people patiently explaining it to you in this thread.
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June 30, 2013, 07:37:15 AM
#51
How do we know you weren't the one that murdered your brother?

Ahhhh, the Internets.

We have a woman on trial right now, which turned her daughter blind, day by day, while she was drugged with sleeping pills. Just to get a welfare bonus for her child's disability.
Also she has been doing similar stuff to other 2 sons, both of whom died eventually.
They caught her in the end, but she's been doing that for 14 years...

That's really bad - printmule - got a link to this?

It's in latvian/russian languages and google translate refuses to work for that page, so It will do you no good. If you want to get a stab still:

http://www.delfi.lv/news/national/criminal/par-savu-bernu-sakroplosanu-un-nonavesanu-apsudzetajai-medmasai-prasa-muza-ieslodzijumu.d?id=43440021
http://rus.delfi.lv/news/daily/criminal/dlya-medsestry-izuvechivshej-svoih-detej-trebuyut-pozhiznennogo-zaklyucheniya.d?id=43440019
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June 30, 2013, 01:10:31 AM
#50
Let me see if I've got this straight: you intend to report your step-dad's crime to the police (and that's all you can do at this point; you do not get a say in whether or not he will be charged) and give evidence against him if it goes to trial, unless he agrees to help with your charity? That's called blackmail. Better call your criminal defence attorney again. Tell him you may have a case for him to take after all.
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June 30, 2013, 12:05:08 AM
#49
So, what again does this have to do with Bitcoin? If it's a charity, focus on the charity. Your legal problems are none of our business.

It not a charity. It's the first murder trial offered to be publicized by any bitcoin media outlet.

murder happens every day. lets say bitcoinnews done a piece about any random murder..

just like any random murder in the world, how is a peanut allergy (in your case) related whatsoever to bitcoin?



.....

waiting for the punchline of your other 14 jokes.. (projects)

you want people to hand you money.

you sicken me. while your family grieves and your stepdad is in mourning and probably having nightmares about a mistake. and endlessly thinking of things that he could have done differently. you first of all hound him by text messages about a $100k charity in your brothers name. then the next day you meet up with him and continue trying to discuss the charity, and when your step dad tells you he is not in the mood. you call him a murderer, because he doesnt say it with a smile??

now you want the bitcoin community to hand you, a drug dependant scammer, bitcoins to fund a legal battle which you may cancel at any point if he is deemed a good dad, or the end result being a court fine, not jail time. seriously..??

if you had any true brain power and compassion and any belief that your step dad was a murderer, you would have gone to the police. secondly if there were (which there should never be) any legal costs you would be asking your late brothers school/community for dollar donations to fund something of your brain farts magnitude.

the only reason you want bitcoins is because you know they are irreversible and semi anonymous so once you receive them you can spend them on silk road and never have to worry about someone who knows you personally, slapping you with a wet fish, because of your scams.

if you want to do a smart thing. do project 10 (mason's baseball stuff) sell baseballs, shirts caps in the name of mason to theschool community your brother attended for dollars to fund a legal team or get a bank loan.

as bitcoins are wasted on you.

again you absolutely sicken me, using a story of a brothers death to feed your silk road habits
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June 29, 2013, 07:19:08 PM
#48
How do we know you weren't the one that murdered your brother?

Ahhhh, the Internets.

We have a woman on trial right now, which turned her daughter blind, day by day, while she was drugged with sleeping pills. Just to get a welfare bonus for her child's disability.
Also she has been doing similar stuff to other 2 sons, both of whom died eventually.
They caught her in the end, but she's been doing that for 14 years...

That's really bad - printmule - got a link to this?
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June 29, 2013, 07:15:51 PM
#47
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From a cursory glance at the situation, it looks like you might be able to file a civil wrongful death

This is exactly what everybody needs to tell the op.
hire a private investigator or lawyer for a civil suit

or both




THIS IS WHAT I SAID I NEED HELP DOING IN THE ORIGINAL POST
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June 29, 2013, 07:15:27 PM
#46
I never said anyone should give the op money.  I said the op needs a lawyer.  The end.

The op needs to go to the police and stop living in make believe land.

I agree with this, the allegations are serious and need investigations and not discussions on the Internet.   Such discussions will only prejudice the case.
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June 29, 2013, 07:14:15 PM
#45
I never said anyone should give the op money.  I said the op needs a lawyer.  The end.

The op needs to go to the police and stop living in make believe land.
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June 29, 2013, 07:09:34 PM
#44
Quote from: Fin Shaggy
And as I said before, all I ask is that he sit with me respectfully, respectfully, and discuss my dead brothers charity. OR that he be charged for his crimes.

Spit out the Koolaid folks. Who would stop pursuing the murderer of their own brother simply because the murderer agrees to set up a charity? Scam. Scam. Stay away from this confidence man.

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